Evans for Vasquez
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There's something that you seem to be walking around over and over again. Its obvious that they didn't want Tyreke back. Who did they embrace when the sale went through? Cousins! Who did they say they wanted to build the team around? Cousins! Rightly or wrongly, they've decided to put their eggs in Cousins basket, and so now they're trying to put players around him to help make him into a star. So the point is, they never had any intention of resigning Tryeke! I know you disagree with that, but somehow I don't think my, or your opinion matters to them. They have a plan, and thats the plan their following. I believe they were willing to lose Tyreke for nothing if they had to. Vasquez is simple a last minute bonus that fell into their laps.
Its possible that they tried to sign and trade Tyreke with other teams, but those other teams would have had to agree to the same money that New Orleans was offering for Tyreke to sign on. With Vasquez, I think they saw an opportunity to at least get something back, but Vasquez was hardly the encentive for the trade. They wanted capspace to be able to be flexable enough to pull of some deals. What they might be, is something we'll have to wait to find out. Then everyone can ***** again...
Its possible that they tried to sign and trade Tyreke with other teams, but those other teams would have had to agree to the same money that New Orleans was offering for Tyreke to sign on. With Vasquez, I think they saw an opportunity to at least get something back, but Vasquez was hardly the encentive for the trade. They wanted capspace to be able to be flexable enough to pull of some deals. What they might be, is something we'll have to wait to find out. Then everyone can ***** again...
It doesn't necessarily have to be this season. I don't see any reason at all that we couldn't keep him for a season and then reassess where we stand at the end of the year. If he plays up to the contract, then keep him and you're much better off. If he doesn't, then you still have the opportunity to move him for something. The absolute worse case scenario would be trading him in a salary dump, which is essentially the move we just made.
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Yes they have. Simply because they work for professional organization that said hey! Talent! Let's give the talent the ball! Rather than hiring morons to coach and having them split shots and touches with Boobie Gibson.
Put Kyrie Irving here, move him off the ball, give him 12 shots a game, and we would have just let him walk too because obviously he was never going to be a star.
Put Kyrie Irving here, move him off the ball, give him 12 shots a game, and we would have just let him walk too because obviously he was never going to be a star.
Baja, I'm not walking around it -- I'm staring that fact right in the face and I'm pissed off about it! 
That's what all of this is about. I barely got any sleep last night. I keep hoping that there might come a day when my favorite basketball team starts to build a team around what I consider to be a good, fundamental, winning style of play. Because I want to see a Kings championship before I die. From my standpoint, the chances of that happening just got postponed another 5 plus years. Yes I get it, I'm overreacting. The front office is going to do whatever they want regardless of what I think. That's all fine. But I reserve the right to be upset about it, especially when we're losing games in the playoffs because our perimeter defense remains a mess and our jumpshots aren't falling. If this is the prelude to a series of moves which make us an elite defensive team I'll backpedal appropriately. Right now I'm not a happy Kings fan though.
Running in circles would be restating things that I've already said 5 different ways -- talking about why Vasquez for Evans at PG is a huge blow to our hopes of improving our defense and doesn't necessarily make us better offensively either. We had that argument already, a lot of people agree and a lot of people don't. All I'm talking about now is the reality of the financial situation which is twofold: (1) We could have paid Evans and still had plenty of cap space to fill out our need for frontcourt depth and a starter at SF and (2) We didn't just buy into an exciting, young, elite PG who is coveted around the league and required a massive talent dump to acquire, we picked up an expiring rookie deal that New Orleans was shopping for cap space. Just like Petrie's brilliant mid-season acquisition of two players who are no longer on the roster and another who is exprining next season for our #5 overall pick. Sometimes you have to look beyond just the names to see what is really going on.
That's what all of this is about. I barely got any sleep last night. I keep hoping that there might come a day when my favorite basketball team starts to build a team around what I consider to be a good, fundamental, winning style of play. Because I want to see a Kings championship before I die. From my standpoint, the chances of that happening just got postponed another 5 plus years. Yes I get it, I'm overreacting. The front office is going to do whatever they want regardless of what I think. That's all fine. But I reserve the right to be upset about it, especially when we're losing games in the playoffs because our perimeter defense remains a mess and our jumpshots aren't falling. If this is the prelude to a series of moves which make us an elite defensive team I'll backpedal appropriately. Right now I'm not a happy Kings fan though.Running in circles would be restating things that I've already said 5 different ways -- talking about why Vasquez for Evans at PG is a huge blow to our hopes of improving our defense and doesn't necessarily make us better offensively either. We had that argument already, a lot of people agree and a lot of people don't. All I'm talking about now is the reality of the financial situation which is twofold: (1) We could have paid Evans and still had plenty of cap space to fill out our need for frontcourt depth and a starter at SF and (2) We didn't just buy into an exciting, young, elite PG who is coveted around the league and required a massive talent dump to acquire, we picked up an expiring rookie deal that New Orleans was shopping for cap space. Just like Petrie's brilliant mid-season acquisition of two players who are no longer on the roster and another who is exprining next season for our #5 overall pick. Sometimes you have to look beyond just the names to see what is really going on.
Lots of excuses and lots of presumptions.
You could be right but when someone makes this many excuses and "what if" presumptions you could very well be wrong too.
It's a little disturbing that you talk about Tyreke in such absolutes and with such conviction when so very much of your argument is based upon excuses and bashing everyone else around him.
You could be right but when someone makes this many excuses and "what if" presumptions you could very well be wrong too.
It's a little disturbing that you talk about Tyreke in such absolutes and with such conviction when so very much of your argument is based upon excuses and bashing everyone else around him.
Baja, I'm not walking around it -- I'm staring that fact right in the face and I'm pissed off about it! That's what all of this is about. I barely got any sleep last night. I keep hoping that there might come a day when my favorite basketball team starts to build a team around what I consider to be a good, fundamental, winning style of play. Because I want to see a Kings championship before I die. From my standpoint, the chances of that happening just got postponed another 5 plus years. Yes I get it, I'm overreacting. The front office is going to do whatever they want regardless of what I think. That's all fine. But I reserve the right to be upset about it, especially when we're losing games in the playoffs because our perimeter defense remains a mess and our jumpshots aren't falling. If this is the prelude to a series of moves which make us an elite defensive team I'll backpedal appropriately. Right now I'm not a happy Kings fan though.
Running in circles would be restating things that I've already said 5 different ways -- talking about why Vasquez for Evans at PG is a huge blow to our hopes of improving our defense and doesn't necessarily make us better offensively either. We had that argument already, a lot of people agree and a lot of people don't. All I'm talking about now is the reality of the financial situation which is twofold: (1) We could have paid Evans and still had plenty of cap space to fill out our need for frontcourt depth and a starter at SF and (2) We didn't just buy into an exciting, young, elite PG who is coveted around the league and required a massive talent dump to acquire, we picked up an expiring rookie deal that New Orleans was shopping for cap space. Just like Petrie's brilliant mid-season acquisition of two players who are no longer on the roster and another who is exprining next season for our #5 overall pick. Sometimes you have to look beyond just the names to see what is really going on.
That's what all of this is about. I barely got any sleep last night. I keep hoping that there might come a day when my favorite basketball team starts to build a team around what I consider to be a good, fundamental, winning style of play. Because I want to see a Kings championship before I die. From my standpoint, the chances of that happening just got postponed another 5 plus years. Yes I get it, I'm overreacting. The front office is going to do whatever they want regardless of what I think. That's all fine. But I reserve the right to be upset about it, especially when we're losing games in the playoffs because our perimeter defense remains a mess and our jumpshots aren't falling. If this is the prelude to a series of moves which make us an elite defensive team I'll backpedal appropriately. Right now I'm not a happy Kings fan though.Running in circles would be restating things that I've already said 5 different ways -- talking about why Vasquez for Evans at PG is a huge blow to our hopes of improving our defense and doesn't necessarily make us better offensively either. We had that argument already, a lot of people agree and a lot of people don't. All I'm talking about now is the reality of the financial situation which is twofold: (1) We could have paid Evans and still had plenty of cap space to fill out our need for frontcourt depth and a starter at SF and (2) We didn't just buy into an exciting, young, elite PG who is coveted around the league and required a massive talent dump to acquire, we picked up an expiring rookie deal that New Orleans was shopping for cap space. Just like Petrie's brilliant mid-season acquisition of two players who are no longer on the roster and another who is exprining next season for our #5 overall pick. Sometimes you have to look beyond just the names to see what is really going on.
I'll wait until 10th of July.
If we don't get someone else on board that could compensate Reke's value, I would rate this trade a stinking FAIL.
Reke >>> Vazquez
Would have been nice if Lopez got on board. But we dodged his contract. And I hope that means we're keeping some more space for someone else who'll take a big chunk off that payroll.
That guy better not be a ghost or I would rate this trade a stinking FAIL.
A guy like Josh Smith could really help Vazquez a lot. And save Vivek and Co with awesome dunks.
So will a Thornton for Granger\Green trade.
Let's see. We still got 5 days left.
If we don't get someone else on board that could compensate Reke's value, I would rate this trade a stinking FAIL.
Reke >>> Vazquez
Would have been nice if Lopez got on board. But we dodged his contract. And I hope that means we're keeping some more space for someone else who'll take a big chunk off that payroll.
That guy better not be a ghost or I would rate this trade a stinking FAIL.
A guy like Josh Smith could really help Vazquez a lot. And save Vivek and Co with awesome dunks.
So will a Thornton for Granger\Green trade.
Let's see. We still got 5 days left.
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