Tropical Island Make-Your-Own-Movie Draft (Round 16)
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Oh yeah...Spacey. Also one of my all-time favorite actors. Although I haven't always liked the movies he's been in particuarly, I cannot recall a time when he gave a less than impressive performance. I thought long and hard about having him in my film but was having a hard time figuring out how his role could fit in with the others I had already cast. I'm glad in a way you solved the problem for me. 
I'm still fighting myself over THREE different directors, so I will fill the last really important role with the one guy who really has to play it. (Well actually, I can think of another two or three guys, but I want this one.
My Pick:
Justin Long
Need him for the cliche 'best-friend' role I guess.
I'm a mac.
My Pick:
Justin Long
Need him for the cliche 'best-friend' role I guess.
I'm a mac.
I'm still fighting myself over THREE different directors, so I will fill the last really important role with the one guy who really has to play it. (Well actually, I can think of another two or three guys, but I want this one.
My Pick:
Justin Long
Need him for the cliche 'best-friend' role I guess.
I'm a mac.
My Pick:
Justin Long
Need him for the cliche 'best-friend' role I guess.
I'm a mac.
Since not enough of the people on my list are being taken, I will need to do some serious decision making before the slow end of the snake gets back around to me. However, there's never been an ounce of doubt about my next pick.
Alan Rickman -- One of my very favorite actors in any genre, but especially in comedic roles. He should be heaven in a film/style known for wringing every drop of unsubtle innuendo from each line of dialog.
Alan Rickman -- One of my very favorite actors in any genre, but especially in comedic roles. He should be heaven in a film/style known for wringing every drop of unsubtle innuendo from each line of dialog.
I'm caught between creating an "authentic" cast or selecting a person who is absolutely ideal for the role, even if his ethnicity doesn't match up. Then again, that all pretty much went out the window when I went with Crowe for the lead. So, I'm taking the BAA (best actor available) and hoping the audience still has enough imagination to pretend he's simply from a different part of Europe.
Of course, given this man's committment to roles, I doubt it will be an issue.
Daniel Day-Lewis
Quite possibly the most intense method actor in the industry today (and ranks up there on the all-time list) Day-Lewis is simultaneously a director's ultimate dream and worst nightmare. His exhausting research for roles and refusal to break character are legendary and lend themselves perfectly to Coppola and Kurosawa, not to mention the historical epic genre.
He has the ability to be a villain or a hero and brings subtle nuances to both so you're not sure which is which, absolutely vital for the film I have planned and the character he's lined up to play.
In fact, he was my third choice for the lead role behind Banderas and Crowe, but I actually like him better in the supporting role here, bringing depth to a character who might otherwise be played as a simple one-dimensional archetype in a lesser actor's hands.
Of course, given this man's committment to roles, I doubt it will be an issue.
Daniel Day-Lewis
Quite possibly the most intense method actor in the industry today (and ranks up there on the all-time list) Day-Lewis is simultaneously a director's ultimate dream and worst nightmare. His exhausting research for roles and refusal to break character are legendary and lend themselves perfectly to Coppola and Kurosawa, not to mention the historical epic genre.
He has the ability to be a villain or a hero and brings subtle nuances to both so you're not sure which is which, absolutely vital for the film I have planned and the character he's lined up to play.
In fact, he was my third choice for the lead role behind Banderas and Crowe, but I actually like him better in the supporting role here, bringing depth to a character who might otherwise be played as a simple one-dimensional archetype in a lesser actor's hands.
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Since not enough of the people on my list are being taken, I will need to do some serious decision making before the slow end of the snake gets back around to me. However, there's never been an ounce of doubt about my next pick.
Alan Rickman -- One of my very favorite actors in any genre, but especially in comedic roles. He should be heaven in a film/style known for wringing every drop of unsubtle innuendo from each line of dialog.
Alan Rickman -- One of my very favorite actors in any genre, but especially in comedic roles. He should be heaven in a film/style known for wringing every drop of unsubtle innuendo from each line of dialog.
Yeah, I decided to call an audible on that; I was going to have Rodriguez play the younger of two sisters, and draft an older actress to portray her older sister, but I decided at the last minute to make Rodriguez the older one.
Interestingly enough, the actor I had originally planned to play the older sister isn't even Hispanic, but it's not like that would have been the first time that ever happened...
Interestingly enough, the actor I had originally planned to play the older sister isn't even Hispanic, but it's not like that would have been the first time that ever happened...
I'm on pins and needles waiting to find out Spike's next pick. A muppet, perhaps?
LOL
Okay, I need to know how much time I have to make a pick. I just got home from work and see that Spike was up again this morning.
The problem: I have posted what he gave me. Since we are now entering the long end of the picks (from our perspective), there will be a little time before Spike comes up again. So, I am going to try and wing it and choose someone for the movie. If it totally blows everything, I want to know if my choice can be totally thrown out meaning the Spike ends with one actor/actress short.
What say you commissioner?
While we're asking the commish some questions, I've got a few that came up as I was going over my list earlier today.
Have you given any more thought to extending this a few more rounds? Is the tagline + brief synopsis round in lieu of another actor? Or in addition? Are we able to specify any other actors by name in our final write-up even if they weren't drafted?
The reason I ask is that it occured to me that the biggest names I have left on my list are all for relatively inconsequential character roles. I'd be tempted to draft them first based on noteriety, but don't want to run out of time to pick people who are more important to the plot. Nor would I want to grab all my oddball picks and have the draft extended at the last minute after my big names have been taken. I can work around whatever your decision is, but it will definitely have an impact on my strategy from here on and would, therefore, like to figure out what the total number of actors is going to be.
Have you given any more thought to extending this a few more rounds? Is the tagline + brief synopsis round in lieu of another actor? Or in addition? Are we able to specify any other actors by name in our final write-up even if they weren't drafted?
The reason I ask is that it occured to me that the biggest names I have left on my list are all for relatively inconsequential character roles. I'd be tempted to draft them first based on noteriety, but don't want to run out of time to pick people who are more important to the plot. Nor would I want to grab all my oddball picks and have the draft extended at the last minute after my big names have been taken. I can work around whatever your decision is, but it will definitely have an impact on my strategy from here on and would, therefore, like to figure out what the total number of actors is going to be.
Whoa..what? Why? Huh?
The grand tradition in these things is just to skip somebody if they aren't going to be around, not to take experimental nonbinding picks for them. Although that could be fun too...
If he's not around, and not going to be around, we'll just a) skip him; and b) trash his credit rating as punishment; and then he can make it up when he does get back form Patagonia.
The grand tradition in these things is just to skip somebody if they aren't going to be around, not to take experimental nonbinding picks for them. Although that could be fun too...
If he's not around, and not going to be around, we'll just a) skip him; and b) trash his credit rating as punishment; and then he can make it up when he does get back form Patagonia.
Whoa..what? Why? Huh?
The grand tradition in these things is just to skip somebody if they aren't going to be around, not to take experimental nonbinding picks for them. Although that could be fun too...
If he's not around, and not going to be around, we'll just a) skip him; and b) trash his credit rating as punishment; and then he can make it up when he does get back form Patagonia.
The grand tradition in these things is just to skip somebody if they aren't going to be around, not to take experimental nonbinding picks for them. Although that could be fun too...
If he's not around, and not going to be around, we'll just a) skip him; and b) trash his credit rating as punishment; and then he can make it up when he does get back form Patagonia.
So, by command decision (my own), I am choosing a supporting actress that I strongly believe will fit in very nicely for Mel Brooks' direction.
My choice is...
Cameron Diaz
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Whoa Nellie!
Ok, I can easily bring back your post and choice there...but just to be clear, if its made its binding. We can't have a nonbinding choice and then somebody who really wanted the person you temporarily chose is forced to go a different direction, and then it turns out Spike changes his mind and all of a sudden the person is back out on the market.
So just to be 100% clear, I don't know Spike and your arrangement, but do you want me to put back your full post with that pick, as 100% set in stone, til death do you part? If you do, I will, and that's the pick, no changing or second thoughts later by Spikey.
Ok, I can easily bring back your post and choice there...but just to be clear, if its made its binding. We can't have a nonbinding choice and then somebody who really wanted the person you temporarily chose is forced to go a different direction, and then it turns out Spike changes his mind and all of a sudden the person is back out on the market.
So just to be 100% clear, I don't know Spike and your arrangement, but do you want me to put back your full post with that pick, as 100% set in stone, til death do you part? If you do, I will, and that's the pick, no changing or second thoughts later by Spikey.
Actually I would love to add some rounds -- I actually have 3-4 smaller parts clearly imagined in my head that I am not going to have room for as it currently stands. But I think it has to be a choice made by everybody as obviously I have a vested interest in it, and its also true that one of my other initial ideas probably would not have had more than maybe 7 or 8 actors total so I don't want to discriminate against somebody with only a limited cast in mind. I was going to wait until after round 6 to propose the idea again (after genres were set in stone and most people had an idea of how things were going to play out), but have no objection to raising the idea earlier here. Maybe I'll just put up another poll here and see if people are interested.
Obviously, I'll vote in the poll..but since we're chatting amongst ourselves too...I'm running into similar dilemmas trying to fit what parts I need or would like to cast with what spaces I have available. I'd like to not have to use the rounds for summaries and taglines et al. for those purposes. Let's add two "rounds" to absorb those ancilary pieces and have people reveal them like we did the genre. Then we have two rounds that can be used as wildcards without having to spend time deciding how many rounds to add which may or may not benefit some people more than others.
Excellent. So I barely have any female characters in this movie, but these two parts are irreplaceable. Fortunately, I got my first choice for each. With my 5th pick, I select as much of a female lead as I have in the film:
Jennifer Connelly
(Valentine Wiggin/Mind Fantasy Game Narrator Voice (American)/Formic Queen (Alien))
Beautiful, talented, versatile, and warm. She's the perfect compliment/foil to Christian Bale's dark intensity
Filmography:
Valentine - Ender's older sister is the only person in the world who truly loves him. She protects him from Peter, their sadistic older brother. Along with Peter, Valentine takes an active interest in the world's political situation, and writing under the pseudonym Demosthenes begins to exert influence over the growing situation. Valentine also writes a letter to Ender at one point that helps him get control of himself. At the end of the book, Valentine convinces Ender to go with her to colonize the bugger worlds, and she works on a history of the world on the way there. Later she travels with Ender as he searches for a new world for the buggers.
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"We may be young, but we're not powerless. We play by their rules long enough and it becomes our game."
The Mind Fantasy Game (Game 2) - The Mind Fantasy Game is a game that is played by the students in Ender's Game to monitor their psychological development and stability while they are in Battle School.
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At last he came to a door, with these words in glowing emeralds:
THE END OF THE WORLD
He did not hesitate. He opened the door and stepped through
The Formic Queen - During the Second Invasion, it became evident to the Formics that they could not survive the war with the humans. In order to prevent their total destruction, The Formics prepared a location on one of their colonies for the Hive Queen to be left dormant as a cocoon. Using ansible communication, the Hive Queen accessed the memories of the human race's child prodigy and unknowing battle commander, Ender Wiggin, to better understand him. Using what they learned, the Formics made the landscape on one of their colonies close to Earth to look like that of Ender's most powerful memory (Fairyland, from the pseudo-sentient Mind Fantasy Game). Arriving as a colonist to that world, Ender eventually discovers the Hive Queen and takes her with him while exploring other colonies.
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More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Connelly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentine_Wiggin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_Fantasy_Game#Fantasy_Game
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hive_Queen_(Ender%27s_Game)
Jennifer Connelly
(Valentine Wiggin/Mind Fantasy Game Narrator Voice (American)/Formic Queen (Alien))
Beautiful, talented, versatile, and warm. She's the perfect compliment/foil to Christian Bale's dark intensity
Filmography:
- 9 (2009) Voice
- He's Just Not That Into You (2009) Janine
- Inkheart (2009) Roxanne
- The Day the Earth Stood Still (2008) Helen Benson
- Reservation Road (2007) Grace Learner
- Blood Diamond (2006) Maddy Bowen
- Little Children (2006) Kathy Adamson
- Dark Water (2005) Dahlia Williams
- House of Sand and Fog (2003) Kathy Nicolo
- The Hulk (2003) Betty Ross
- A Beautiful Mind (2001) Alicia Nash
- Pollock (2000) Ruth Kligman
- Requiem for A Dream (2000) Marion Silver
- Waking the Dead (2000) Sarah Williams
- Dark City (1998) Emma Murdoch
- Inventing the Abbotts (1997) Eleanor Abott
- Far Harbor (1996) Ellie
- Mulholland Falls (1996) Allison Pond
- Of Love and Shadows (1996) Irene
- Higher Learning (1995) Taryn
- Career Opportunities (1991) Josie McClellan
- The Rocketeer (1991) Jenny
- The Hot Spot (1990) Gloria Harper
- Etoile (1989) Claire
- Some Girls (1989) Gabriella
- Labyrinth (1986) Sarah
- Seven Minutes in Heaven (1986) Natalie Becker
- Phenomena (1985) Jennifer Corvino
- Once Upon A Time In America (1984) Young Deborah
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Valentine is Ender's older sister, and she does what she can to protect him from Peter, their sadistic older brother. Valentine has much of Ender's compassion, but she does not have Peter's ruthlessness. However, as the story progresses, Valentine learns that the differences between the three siblings are not as great as they seem. She never ceases believing that Ender is the best of them, and she loves him unconditionally. In fact, her love helps save Ender when the pointlessness of Battle School threatens to break him. But as she begins working with Peter to transform the political system on earth, using her pseudonym Demosthenes, Valentine learns that there is a part of her that enjoys control.
Although she does not want to manipulate people for the sake of manipulation, like Peter does, Valentine knows that she is intelligent enough to make a major difference and sees no reason why she should not. However, she would never wish to do damage in her attempt to change the world. Valentine, like Ender, would never deliberately harm someone else. Unlike Ender, however, she falls prey to the irresistible urge to power. But that urge would never take her down Peter's road of power at any cost.
Although she does not want to manipulate people for the sake of manipulation, like Peter does, Valentine knows that she is intelligent enough to make a major difference and sees no reason why she should not. However, she would never wish to do damage in her attempt to change the world. Valentine, like Ender, would never deliberately harm someone else. Unlike Ender, however, she falls prey to the irresistible urge to power. But that urge would never take her down Peter's road of power at any cost.
The Mind Fantasy Game (Game 2) - The Mind Fantasy Game is a game that is played by the students in Ender's Game to monitor their psychological development and stability while they are in Battle School.
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Ender plays the game intensely, and one of the teachers becomes concerned when he becomes preoccupied with the Giant's Drink. In the Giant's Drink, a giant gives the player a choice of two drinks. That area is a lose-lose situation that is believed by one of the teachers to reveal the suicidal tendency of the child. Ender constantly keeps dying in that area. Finally, Ender breaks the rules by kicking the two drinks over and tearing out the giant's eyeball, killing him. Because most children give up and never progress beyond the Drink, the game was not programmed to reveal what happened after getting past the Giant. However, the computer was so complex that it created areas afterwards, tailored to Ender's mind.
In Ender's Shadow, the main protagonist Bean is said to be the only student who never plays the game, because he knows that the teachers are using it to map out their minds. His refusal to play the game vexes the teachers and forces them to monitor him in different ways. Bean, however, does play the game once, at the Giant's Drink, and the computer shows Achilles' face, similar to the scene in Game when Ender sees Peter's face.
In Ender's Shadow, the main protagonist Bean is said to be the only student who never plays the game, because he knows that the teachers are using it to map out their minds. His refusal to play the game vexes the teachers and forces them to monitor him in different ways. Bean, however, does play the game once, at the Giant's Drink, and the computer shows Achilles' face, similar to the scene in Game when Ender sees Peter's face.
THE END OF THE WORLD
He did not hesitate. He opened the door and stepped through
The Formic Queen - During the Second Invasion, it became evident to the Formics that they could not survive the war with the humans. In order to prevent their total destruction, The Formics prepared a location on one of their colonies for the Hive Queen to be left dormant as a cocoon. Using ansible communication, the Hive Queen accessed the memories of the human race's child prodigy and unknowing battle commander, Ender Wiggin, to better understand him. Using what they learned, the Formics made the landscape on one of their colonies close to Earth to look like that of Ender's most powerful memory (Fairyland, from the pseudo-sentient Mind Fantasy Game). Arriving as a colonist to that world, Ender eventually discovers the Hive Queen and takes her with him while exploring other colonies.
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It is revealed that the Hive Queen's philotic connections allow her to communicate directly to Ender's mind. This is difficult at first, because as a queen she never needed words to communicate- the Formics instantly understood her. She gradually learns to communicate with him, however, and he promises to find her a new home for her to respawn her species. In addition, the Hive Queen helps Ender to write down the information concerning her life and the misunderstanding that led to the war. His finished work, titled "The Hive Queen," and published under the name "Speaker for the Dead," creates great sympathy for the Formics which generally leads humanity to come to regard Ender's actions as an evil act of xenocide. Ender travels to two dozen of the Hundred Colonies in this search, which due to the effects of relativistic space travel takes around three thousand years. While Ender aged only a few decades over this period, the Hive Queen is shown to have been fully aware in real time due to her philotic nature. She has become anxious to be released.
More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Connelly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentine_Wiggin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_Fantasy_Game#Fantasy_Game
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hive_Queen_(Ender%27s_Game)
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I have voted to keep the rules as is. I figure at some point, there just aren't going to be enough meaty roles in a film (in my film, at least) to keep such a large cast of name-actors happy. Extras are extras. I don't need Christian Bale (to pull out a name that's already been picked) to play "man getting on bus".
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