2016 NBA Draft Discussion
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Might be the right line of thinking but I really don't think that's how the fo is looking at it. I think they're just aiming for getting into the playoffs at any cost... and an nba ready guy like Dunn, Hield, or Valentine is exactly what they're looking for. I'm expecting us to try to trade up for Dunn or Hield. Dunn probably gets drafted before Hield imo so Hield will probably be the target. If we stay put I'm thinking it's probably gonna be Baldwin... position of need with some upside and can contribute right away.
I agree on both counts - with Brown not being "safe" but warming to the idea. But I think we ought to keep in mind that it's not like we're going to be in a position to choose between Brown and Hield and Murray, or anything remotely like that. Unless something goes really weird, or both Chriss AND Poeltl go top-7, we will have the option of one of those guys at most. At most one guy falls.
I think at this point my feelings are:
If it's Brown, we should take him.
If it's Murray, we should take him.
If it's Hield, we should take him.
If it's Bender, we should take him.
If it's Dunn...naaaah, there's no way it's going to be Dunn.
If nobody falls, and we have a choice between Chriss/Poeltl/Baldwin/pick 'em - well, I'm all for Poeltl, who I think is being vastly underrated, despite him being a bad fit for the team. But at that point I would not be upset about trading down.
I think at this point my feelings are:
If it's Brown, we should take him.
If it's Murray, we should take him.
If it's Hield, we should take him.
If it's Bender, we should take him.
If it's Dunn...naaaah, there's no way it's going to be Dunn.
If nobody falls, and we have a choice between Chriss/Poeltl/Baldwin/pick 'em - well, I'm all for Poeltl, who I think is being vastly underrated, despite him being a bad fit for the team. But at that point I would not be upset about trading down.
I was listening to KHTK yesterday and there were talks about what kind of pick we could get for Ben McLemore. It was hypothesized that it might be possible to get a mid to late first rounder for him. Then I saw this...
Pacers Acquire Thaddeus Young From Nets For 20th Overall Pick
http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...haddeus-Young-From-Nets-For-20th-Overall-Pick
Pacers Acquire Thaddeus Young From Nets For 20th Overall Pick
http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...haddeus-Young-From-Nets-For-20th-Overall-Pick
The value of draft picks right now makes zero sense. George Hill (at 30 and in a contract year) was essentially dealt for a higher pick than five years ago when the Spurs dealt him for #15. Some teams are essentially trying to dump their picks if teams will take on salary (like Lamb & #22) and then a very solid player in Young is dealt for a mid/late first rounder in a weak draft. Weird.
That said, that's a good deal for Indiana IMO. In essence they traded George Hill and the #20 pick for Thaddeus Young and Jeff Teague.
Teague
Ellis/Stuckey
George
Young
Turner
is an interesting and potentially potent lineup. Bird wanted more offense and a faster pace and I'm pretty sure that group is going to bring it.
That said, that's a good deal for Indiana IMO. In essence they traded George Hill and the #20 pick for Thaddeus Young and Jeff Teague.
Teague
Ellis/Stuckey
George
Young
Turner
is an interesting and potentially potent lineup. Bird wanted more offense and a faster pace and I'm pretty sure that group is going to bring it.
It's the day of the draft, and finally you can somewhat trust, what ND.net puts on their site. 
Looking through "final" mock drafts, people are putting out there, Jaylen Brown seems to be pretty much a consensus pick for Kings with Baldwin and dropped Hield taking the place in some couple. DX surprisingly dropped Baldwin all the way to #19, putting Denzel at #14, where Baldwin reportedly has a promise.
Most have this order:
1. Simmons
2. Ingram
3. Dunn
4. Chriss
5. Murray
6. Hield
7. Bender
Looking through "final" mock drafts, people are putting out there, Jaylen Brown seems to be pretty much a consensus pick for Kings with Baldwin and dropped Hield taking the place in some couple. DX surprisingly dropped Baldwin all the way to #19, putting Denzel at #14, where Baldwin reportedly has a promise. Most have this order:
1. Simmons
2. Ingram
3. Dunn
4. Chriss
5. Murray
6. Hield
7. Bender
It's the day of the draft, and finally you can somewhat trust, what ND.net puts on their site. Looking through "final" mock drafts, people are putting out there, Jaylen Brown seems to be pretty much a consensus pick for Kings with Baldwin and dropped Hield taking the place in some couple. DX surprisingly dropped Baldwin all the way to #19, putting Denzel at #14, where Baldwin reportedly has a promise.
Most have this order:
1. Simmons
2. Ingram
3. Dunn
4. Chriss
5. Murray
6. Hield
7. Bender
Looking through "final" mock drafts, people are putting out there, Jaylen Brown seems to be pretty much a consensus pick for Kings with Baldwin and dropped Hield taking the place in some couple. DX surprisingly dropped Baldwin all the way to #19, putting Denzel at #14, where Baldwin reportedly has a promise.Most have this order:
1. Simmons
2. Ingram
3. Dunn
4. Chriss
5. Murray
6. Hield
7. Bender
If Philly doesn't get the trade with Boston...I think it's going to happen......err, Philly takes Dunn at 3 if they obtain the pick, I think if Boston still has that pick, it's 50/50 they take Dunn as they would move him eventually or Smart or someone else.
I believe that Suns will take Dunn instead of a big since Dunn is the BPA on the board and Suns trade Bledsoe or Knight. Much is going to depend on Philly/Boston potential trade for 3. I think Dunn at 4 for PHX will alter the draft quite a bit. Blows up the Minnesota pick at 5.
J Murray does not get past NO....no chance.
If Brown or Hield drops to us at 8........flip a coin but I swing for the fences with Brown. If you want a Hield, go sign a vet. I'd hate to see us get burned for a 3rd time taking a SG who is supposed to be a great shooter.
I believe that Suns will take Dunn instead of a big since Dunn is the BPA on the board and Suns trade Bledsoe or Knight. Much is going to depend on Philly/Boston potential trade for 3. I think Dunn at 4 for PHX will alter the draft quite a bit. Blows up the Minnesota pick at 5.
J Murray does not get past NO....no chance.
If Brown or Hield drops to us at 8........flip a coin but I swing for the fences with Brown. If you want a Hield, go sign a vet. I'd hate to see us get burned for a 3rd time taking a SG who is supposed to be a great shooter.
Now sixers want Rubio for Noel
Another woj bomb look out!
Sixers w/"significant interest" in Boston (duh) Minnesota (Rubio) and Sacramento
How about 3 team of
Kings get Ibaka
Sixers get 8th
Thunder get Noel
Ibaka fits great w/ cuz and trill ( better than Ryno)
Thunder get out of financial worry (already reported)
Sixers get what they want rid of Noel (Simmons obviously)
* damn auto-correct
Another woj bomb look out!
Sixers w/"significant interest" in Boston (duh) Minnesota (Rubio) and Sacramento
How about 3 team of
Kings get Ibaka
Sixers get 8th
Thunder get Noel
Ibaka fits great w/ cuz and trill ( better than Ryno)
Thunder get out of financial worry (already reported)
Sixers get what they want rid of Noel (Simmons obviously)
* damn auto-correct
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Why bother? Let them have the stupid 2019 pick. They want to give us one of the best defensive bigs in the game and 2 young players on team friendly million dollar deals for the next 4 years? Take that while you can. Sure we'd be missing out on a top 10 player, but at the position we're drafting, I'm not sure we wouldn't be better off with the two late first round picks anyway. Until the next CBA adjusts rookie scale salaries appropriately, those first round contracts are salary cap gold.
Exactly
Then tAke one pick and trade it for Beverly then take another pick and draft a guard like Demetrius Jackson or Kay fielder (I know he's a second rounder)
Beverly/collision/d.jackson
Lee/m. Barnes/bmac
Gay/casspi/butler
Ibaka/wcs/acy
Cuz/kk/*(other)cousins.
*my bad
That's a tough starting five dramatic difference!
Then tAke one pick and trade it for Beverly then take another pick and draft a guard like Demetrius Jackson or Kay fielder (I know he's a second rounder)
Beverly/collision/d.jackson
Lee/m. Barnes/bmac
Gay/casspi/butler
Ibaka/wcs/acy
Cuz/kk/*(other)cousins.
*my bad
That's a tough starting five dramatic difference!
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We also have cap space and other assets to trade. We'll figure out the guard positions one way or another. There's a good chance Dunn, Hield, and Jamal Murray are all gone at #8 regardless so it's not like giving up the 8th pick really costs us much in that regard. More likely we'd be giving up either Chriss or Brown.