What should we do if we keep on losing

Bricklayer said:
Blow the damn thing up. Enough already. No more half measures.

Either take the chance to get good or take the chance to get bad, but quit being cowards and quivering in the middle. Our "talent" is apropos of nothing with out an elite level star to lead them. Just a ticket to years of mediocrity while you waste time and drain away your fanbase. Either man up and make major play for somebody able to rally the remaining pieces you do not trade and make them into something significant, or slash and burn and cash in our middleaged talent for young kids and picks who can make us significant in a few years. Either way, *** sitting is no longer an option.

This post made me do a quick enthusiastic fist pump, if you were here to see it you would see it rallied me to your cause...RIGHT ON!
 
You've said and many others have said that we have talent, but its not "a good mix"... I don't get what you're saying....
 
VF21 said:
The chemistry between the current coaching staff and the players could definitely be part of the problem but if you think simply changing the coach is going to make everything all better again, then I suspect you're going to be greatly disappointed.

You are right changing the coach is not going to make everything all better right away but it is a start. I am now at a point where I think at least 2 or all 3 of our core should be traded. They are not leaders or are they worthy of being ones at this point. We need a new direction and changing the coach is only the first step.
 
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DaMan said:
Do u think we should completely rebuild or do u think we should trade some pieces and hope for the playoffs next year?

Blow the team up and start over--Get cap room. Peja and Bibby to New York for Penny Hardaway, who is in the last year of his contract. The window is closed. This is a bad team that plays with absolutely no heart. Fire Adelman and let Elston Turner coach the team the rest of the year. I still say we should have went after George Karl when we had the chance.
 
Bricklayer said:
Blow the damn thing up. Enough already. No more half measures.

Either take the chance to get good or take the chance to get bad, but quit being cowards and quivering in the middle. Our "talent" is apropos of nothing with out an elite level star to lead them. Just a ticket to years of mediocrity while you waste time and drain away your fanbase. Either man up and make major play for somebody able to rally the remaining pieces you do not trade and make them into something significant, or slash and burn and cash in our middleaged talent for young kids and picks who can make us significant in a few years. Either way, *** sitting is no longer an option.

AMEN
 
At this point, I don't even care about winning or losing.

I no longer care about good trades, or bad trades.

I no longer care THAT much about who stays, and who goes.

But, I'm getting really tired of the feeling that I'm rooting for a team whose management is either this incompetent or this stubborn.




There is, of course, the possibility that the entire roster is being shopped but no one is interested and we're stuck with this "team" for who knows how long, but that's entirely too much of a downer to contemplate on this lovely holiday weekend.
 
GameBall said:
Blow the team up and start over--Get cap room. Peja and Bibby to New York for Penny Hardaway, who is in the last year of his contract. The window is closed. This is a bad team that plays with absolutely no heart. Fire Adelman and let Elston Turner coach the team the rest of the year. I still say we should have went after George Karl when we had the chance.

Well yes, but not for cap room I think. That is worth little to a team in Sacramento. Yes to blowing them up. But you need to conserve your remaining talent at all costs. And by conserve, I mean make sure it all brings back something of equal or greater value in future years. Teams will give you players and picks for guys at the level of starters. There is no need to "dump" them anywhere, and if you're the Kings, no guarantee that if you did dump them that you could replace them. Heck last summer people we'e hanfding aroudn max contracts like candy to guys at that level.
 
Bricklayer said:
No, not cap room. That is worth little to a team in Sacramento. Yes to blowing them up. But you need to conserve your remaining talent at all costs. And by conserve, I mean make sure it all brings back something of equal or greater value in future years. Teams will give you players and picks for guys at the level of starters. There is no need to "dump" them anywhere.

I agree with you in theory, but the way the Kings are playing now, what team is going to want these guys???
 
GameBall said:
I agree with you in theory, but the way the Kings are playing now, what team is going to want these guys???

An interesting question. I do think everybody's value is taking a hit, but I douobt its as big a hit as they re taking in our eyes. Put Bibby in Minnesota alngside KG, and all of a sudden he's the heady shotmaker again. Put Peja in Miami alongside Shaq/Wade, and all of a sudden he's the deadeye third option/space stretcher. Think a lot of teams out there with needs would see real potential in our guys in a new situation. B ut I'm not a GM. Not on the phones and have no real idea what is being said or sonsidered. So could be wrong.
 
Bricklayer said:
Blow the damn thing up. Enough already. No more half measures.

Either take the chance to get good or take the chance to get bad, but quit being cowards and quivering in the middle. Our "talent" is apropos of nothing with out an elite level star to lead them. Just a ticket to years of mediocrity while you waste time and drain away your fanbase. Either man up and make major play for somebody able to rally the remaining pieces you do not trade and make them into something significant, or slash and burn and cash in our middleaged talent for young kids and picks who can make us significant in a few years. Either way, *** sitting is no longer an option.
I agree, totally agree. And in my opinion the best thing to do is to blow it up.
 
GameBall said:
I agree with you in theory, but the way the Kings are playing now, what team is going to want these guys???
I think houston would be willing to give up Wesly, noohie, Stomile, for sar and peja. Stomile is young talent that sac might be willing to devople with into the future and Wesly and noohie contract are up too really soon.
 
DaMan said:
I think houston would be willing to give up Wesly, noohie, Stomile, for sar and peja. Stomile is young talent that sac might be willing to devople with into the future and Wesly and noohie contract are up too really soon.

HUH?!?!?!?! Ugh. If Petrie pulled a deal like that off I would set my eyeballs on fire. BTW Stromile ain't young, he's been in the league for half a decade. Everyone thinks he is going to awaken into some superstud, but it's not going to happen.
 
Trade Bibby/Peja for Paul Pierce and Marcus Banks

Trade Brad Miller for Erik Dampier.

Banks
Bonzi
Pierce
SAR
Dampier

.......not a good team i suck
 
DaMan said:
I think houston would be willing to give up Wesly, noohie, Stomile, for sar and peja. Stomile is young talent that sac might be willing to devople with into the future and Wesly and noohie contract are up too really soon.
Who is "noohie?"
 
ForlornKing said:
Trade Bibby/Peja for Paul Pierce and Marcus Banks

Trade Brad Miller for Erik Dampier.

Banks
Bonzi
Pierce
SAR
Dampier

.......not a good team i suck
there is no way boston is trading pierce hes having a career year and i think he had 40 tonight. i like the idea but its just not gonna happen
 
DaMan said:
I think houston would be willing to give up Wesly, noohie, Stomile, for sar and peja. Stomile is young talent that sac might be willing to devople with into the future and Wesly and noohie contract are up too really soon.
I am glad you are not our GM. Deals like that would make Thomas look like GM of the year.
 
Bonzinator said:
there is no way boston is trading pierce hes having a career year and i think he had 40 tonight. i like the idea but its just not gonna happen
I really do like the idea but but i really doubt the the mavs would trade Erick for Brad. The only reason they got Erick was for def purposes, shot he is like the only one that plays defence on that team.
 
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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Why would Dallas trade a soft center who rebounds for a soft center who doesn't rebound?

Brad is averaging more rebounds...Man this is sad when kingsfans have actually said trade Brad Miller for Erik Dampier... people really are going insane.
 
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Čarolija said:
I am glad you are not our GM. Deals like that would make Thomas look like GM of the year.
That was if the team was rebuilding, reread the tread and u would see that.
 
BMiller52 said:
Brad is averaging more rebounds...Man this is sad when kingsfans have actually said trade Brad Miller for Erik Dampier... people really are going insane.

Dampier has 7.3 boards in 24.6 mins
Miller has 7.7 boards in 36.1 mins

not approving of the trade just trying to say uh yea...thats .4 more boards in 12 more minutes :cool:

Thusly i dont think its legit to say miller is averaging more rebounds
 
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JJ22L said:
Dampier has 7.3 boards in 24.6 mins
Miller has 7.7 boards in 36.1 mins

not approving of the trade just trying to say uh yea...thats .4 more boards in 12 more minutes :cool:

Of course Dampier plays 24 minutes for a reason. :cool:

But you are right.
 
JJ22L said:
Dampier has 7.3 boards in 24.6 mins
Miller has 7.7 boards in 36.1 mins

not approving of the trade just trying to say uh yea...thats .4 more boards in 12 more minutes :cool:
And right now Dampier is what the kings need because he is a more defence minded player.
 
I'm also pretty sure that Erik's contract is worse/longer than brads and that he's the living human foul. You know what? I'm not even going to bother, everybody's just turned on brad and it's obvious suggesting that they trade him for Dampier. I'm sure if people had suggested this trade last season you guys would be cussing them out... Forget this, I'm done.
 
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