Webber through as a Sixer.

Bricklayer

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2727137

Of course, the reporter could be lying. It wouldn't be the first time.
List makes sense -- basically all of the teams with a proven champioship coach or championship history, or both. Dallas is maybe the weakest of the 5 in that respect, and they probably should have won it last year, and look like the best team this year. This looks to be purely about getting a ring for Webb, not about playing in NY or any of that bunk. Be a certain amount of irony if this buyout could actually become a final way of saving his legacy. Goes to some team, becomes a 6th man of the year type ala Walton, wins a title or two. Might still be able to make it into the HOF if it all goes well. But kind of his last chance to do that I think as a major player.
 
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The scary part about Webber going to the Lakers is the fact that hes gonna blossom under the triangle offense. he will probably get 15/7 in that offense.
 
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No i'm just talking about the possiblitys no one knows were hes gonna end up btw, Webber is gonna be on TNT with Kenny Smith at Half-time during the game we just might find out about his next destination in the interview.
 

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He's on there wishlist. which automatically means he would like to join them.
Exactly how many conclusions can you jump to in one thread?

"Considering an offer from, if one is made" and "wanting to go there" are two completely different things....
 

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The scary part about Webber going to the Lakers is the fact that hes gonna blossom under the triangle offense. he will probably get 15/7 in that offense.
This isn't "considering the possibility", you are stating it as a fact.

You really need to learn to type what you mean. Really. You do yourself no favors with these "opinion/hypothetical as fact" posts you keep making. If you have any questions about how to do that, PM one of us for help.
 
Yeah DA said they're going to try to trade another big for Bonzi and get Webb. If they did that, I'd like them even more because Bonzi and Webber are 2 of my favorite players. How good do you guys think they'd be after?
 
The problem for CWebb at this point, as I see it, is that there is not an "ideal" situation for him to move into right now, at least not if he is hoping for a Karl Malone-move-to-the-Lakers type situation where he steps into a team making a run at a title that has a need for a PF to play 25 to 30 minutes per game.

In fact, I do not think any of the 5 teams he has mentioned provide a perfect fit:

Miami - Haslem performs pretty well for the Heat, and provides athleticism that CWebb just hasn't shown since his knee injury. Considering that Shaq and Zo are the centers, and those two players are not exactly spry anymore, either, adding CWebb to the mix doesn't seem to be ideal from a defensive perspective. I doubt he would be handed Haslem's starting slot upon arrival.

Detroit - With Sheed, McDyess and Nazr on the roster, he's going to be in a 4-man rotation. Considering that the Pistons players pride themselves on giving effort on defense, and considering that CWebb's main problem since his knee injury has been on the defensive side of the ball, I'm not sure this move makes much sense, even if CWebb would like to play for his "hometown" team to finish up his career.

Spurs - Well, Duncan is already there, and Popovich doesn't like guys that can't play defense first. CWebb could potentially steal starter's minutes at C since Oberto and Elson haven't exactly torn the league up this year, but CWebb's addition doesn't help the Spurs with their biggest weakness at the moment (defending athletic bigs).

Mavs - Dirk may be playing as well as anyone in the NBA right now, and Diop and Dampier eat up all of the C minutes. The Mavs also like to use a small unit with Dirk at C and Devean George at PF because George is an effort/hustle guy...I don't know if CWebb would fit into that frontcourt rotation all that well, and as the Mavs' front office has already indicated, they could only see him getting 15 minutes per game at most, which is close to half of CWebb is hoping for.

Lakers - at this point, due to all of the injuries to their frontcourt, this would be CWebb's best chance to make an immediate impact. I'm not certain whether he would continue to get the same opportunities once Kwame Brown gets healthy, though, although CWebb would still be the Lakers third PF/C option at worst at that point (in the mix with Bynum and Brown). I'd have to think that Phil would rather run CWebb at the PF than Radmanovic IF CWebb can fit into the triangle.

However, even if the Lakers are his best chance to earn minutes, they are easily the least likely of the 5 teams to have a good shot at making the NBA Finals. I think the Mavs have the best shot, but CWebb runs the risk of not fitting into the rotation, which could lead to him waiving a towel for a winner.
I agree with your assesment. The thing is Webb still considers himself top tier player, and thats good to have confidence in yourself. I'm a huge CWebb fan, but I am not going to make any ludicrous statements about his ability as player, today, 33 years old and a onimous knee later. He is still a taleneted player butin order to have an "ideal" situation he would need to be something that he's not, an "impact" player on a contender. Any team that he would go to would already be a contender. I beleive that his ideal situation would to be on a team to make an impact, and I just don't see how he would be doing that coming off the bench on any of the teams listed.

Now with word that he's going to Detroit, I think that team made least amount of sense. [FONT=&quot][/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT] They already have three bigs and he at best would be their # 3 and at worst # 4. There is the possibility that he could start, but I don't think its likely. The only thing I see out of this move is him making amends with the city of Detroit, a town who in the past has not been welcoming of him in a basketball jersey.
 
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Chris is on TNT right now. He vehemently denied that he has made any kind of decision. He said he's still looking at teams and mentioned the Lakers, Miami, San Antonio and Dallas...in that order.

He says it's not about the money, of course; that he wants to be in an environment that fosters winning. He says his strengths are his basketball IQ and his passing and that he could arguably be a center in the right circumstances.

He says he'll look most at the team's style of play, do they really want him and will he have fun...

I wish him well no matter where he goes, even if it is in LaLa Land.
 

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Based solely on that interview, I wouldn't be surprised to see him in a Laker or a Mavs uniform by Monday... The triangle offense would be a nice fit for him.

...sigh...

:(
 
Chris is on TNT right now. He vehemently denied that he has made any kind of decision. He said he's still looking at teams and mentioned the Lakers, Miami, San Antonio and Dallas...in that order.

He says it's not about the money, of course; that he wants to be in an environment that fosters winning. He says his strengths are his basketball IQ and his passing and that he could arguably be a center in the right circumstances.

He says he'll look most at the team's style of play, do they really want him and will he have fun...

I wish him well no matter where he goes, even if it is in LaLa Land.
Lets compare notes! :D :p

Here's what I got to jot down. But I can get a transcript later when they replay it, I have to watch again so I can use his quote about the Kings as my new sig ;)

Not true about Detroit. Hes looking at several different teams, want to makes the right decision, Its not about $$$ he just wants to get on a team to win a championship

Wants to go somewhere he can win. LA is good, best player in the L, the best offense-Triangle . Miami is great, great team great leadership. DAL, SAS etc...

On starting or coming off the bench:
Depends on the situation, Someone has to look at you the way you look at yourself. Doesn't want to throw out stats he just wants to play his game....Excited about the challenge, and showing his teammates what he can bring to the tabel

On the "Chris Webber factor" what he can bring to a team.
His Bball IQ. He's a student of the game. His Passion. he's versatile, PF & C. Wants to get to a wining team. Even in Sac, whether realistic or not, the goal was always to win a Championship so they didn't get caught up in the petty things

On what style of play he feels conformable
Starting is something he would like to do. Says the situation last year doesn't warrant him not starting. Thinks he can fit into any style of play, doesn't need to be the center of the focus, just wants to win. Lockerroom stance, do they really want him. Just wants to be on a good team. He's not married, no kids, so bball really is his happiness.
 
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He sounded like he wanted to be a Laker, disgusting.
Not in my book. You can hate the Lakers all you like, but you cannot argue with the success of their franchise. Webber has a lot of respect for Phil Jackson, his approach to the game, the triangle offense, etc.

The Kings had him and could have kept him. They didn't so you can't blame him for wanting to go where he feels he has the best chance of winning. He was very honest about his priorities...
 
Sounds like he wants to go to the Lakers no shock there. i knew from the beginning his mind-set was in LA because the triangle-offense fits his skillsets.
 

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Lets compare notes! :D :p

Here's what I got to jot down. But I can get a transcript later when they replay it, I have to watch again so I can use his quote about the Kings as my new sig ;)

Not true about Detroit. Hes looking at several different teams, want to makes the right decision, Its not about $$$ he just wants to get on a team to win a championship

Wants to go somewhere he can win. LA is good, best player in the L, the best offense-Triangle . Miami is great, great team great leadership. DAL, SAS etc...

On starting or coming off the bench:
Depends on the situation, Someone has to look at you the way you look at yourself. Doesn't want to throw out stats he just wants to play his game....Excited about the challenge, and showing his teammates what he can bring to the tabel

On the "Chris Webber factor" what he can bring to a team.
His Bball IQ. He's a student of the game. His Passion. he's versatile, PF & C. Wants to get to a win. Even in Sac, whether realistic or not, the goal was always to win a Championship so they didn't get caught up in the petty things

On what style of play he feels conformable
Starting is something he would like to do. Says the situation last year doesn't warrant him not starting. Thinks he can fit into any style of play, doesn't need to be the center of the focus, just wants to win. Lockerroom stance, do they really want him. Just wants to be on a good team. He's not married, no kids, so bball really is his happiness.
I'm so glad you can do the transcript. I wasn't thinking or I would have recorded it... To be honest, I sat here feeling a little melanchony for me and yet happy for him that he's been able to get out of Philly.

Funny, but it still hurts ... even after all this time.
 

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Sounds like he wants to go to the Lakers no shock there. i knew from the beginning his mind-set was in LA because the triangle-offense fits his skillsets.
Once again, I think you're jumping the gun. He was pretty clear that he hasn't made up his mind and that he's still considering SEVEN possible teams, including the Lakers, Miami, Dallas and San Antonio.

You're doing him a disservice when you say you KNEW from the beginning his mind-set was in LA. That's not Webber. That's you...

He made it clear how he will evaluate the offers and, having watched him all these years, I think it's clear he HASN'T made a decision yet.
 

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Everyone is, of course entitled to their opinion... If it turns out that BOTH of the two greatest players in Sacramento-era Kings history (Webber and Richmond) end up going to the Lakers to get a ring, I'll tell you that BMiller52 won't be the only one disgusted...
 

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But disgusted with whom? It doesn't seem quite fair to be disgusted with either Richmond or Webber, who just followed the paths fate put in front of them.

Disgusted with the Kings? If they hadn't moved Richmond, we never would have had Webber...

Face it, Slim. The Kings are not now and are in no immediate danger of becoming a dynasty franchise. We don't have the sticker appeal of the Lakers. We're actually pretty lucky to have had some of the players we've had, all things considered.
 
It's never easy watching any player go to a top rival.

It's especially rough watching one of, if not the best player in the Sacramento era go to the rivaly in which he helped build.

Jason Schmidt was one of my fav baseball players, but, going to the Dodgers...he's lost all love. When things are said and done, it will be okay...but for the current time, all love is gone.

Same with Chris. He's my fav b-ball player, and I can't wait till #4 is in the rafters, but, going to LA, that's rough. He's a visiting player, much as I love him.
 
Lets compare notes! :D :p

Here's what I got to jot down. But I can get a transcript later when they replay it, I have to watch again so I can use his quote about the Kings as my new sig ;)

Not true about Detroit. Hes looking at several different teams, want to makes the right decision, Its not about $$$ he just wants to get on a team to win a championship

Wants to go somewhere he can win. LA is good, best player in the L, the best offense-Triangle . Miami is great, great team great leadership. DAL, SAS etc...

On starting or coming off the bench:
Depends on the situation, Someone has to look at you the way you look at yourself. Doesn't want to throw out stats he just wants to play his game....Excited about the challenge, and showing his teammates what he can bring to the tabel

On the "Chris Webber factor" what he can bring to a team.
His Bball IQ. He's a student of the game. His Passion. he's versatile, PF & C. Wants to get to a wining team. Even in Sac, whether realistic or not, the goal was always to win a Championship so they didn't get caught up in the petty things

On what style of play he feels conformable
Starting is something he would like to do. Says the situation last year doesn't warrant him not starting. Thinks he can fit into any style of play, doesn't need to be the center of the focus, just wants to win. Lockerroom stance, do they really want him. Just wants to be on a good team. He's not married, no kids, so bball really is his happiness.
Thanks for the transcript...I was all set to watch it live, then my boss walks into my office right as the interview starts, so I had to mute the sound, and I missed the entire interview...

And to catch up on the discussion, even if Detroit moves a big guy (like McDyess) in order to get Bonzi Wells, I still don't see Detroit as being a team that CWebb really fits in with (although that would give him a shot to play consistent minutes on a team that has just as good of a shot as any to make it out of the Eastern Conference at this point).

It seems like the Lakers would be the best fit for him, but only for this season due to the injuries to the Lakers bigs...I cannot really see Phil or the Lakers derailing the development of Brown or Bynum for the sake of CWebb's playing time.
 
He's not there yet...
Well, I was just commenting on the other stuff about him going.

Who knows where he goes. I'd like it if he stayed on the East however. lol

I wish him the best, but, it would be pretty rough to see the Webber nameplate on the back of a LA or Dallas jersey.

It would even be more rough to have Sacramento knock out one of those teams in a first round exit...

;)
 
And that's just wrong. Mitch, Vlade, now possibly Webb? Can we have any of these big keystone players to the franchise to ourselves without purple and bleeping gold eventually sucking them up?
Vlade STARTED his career as a Laker. We can't get upset at the fact that he went back to his NBA roots!

I prefer to see C-Webb in San Antonio, because it's not the Lakers, and, in my opinion, it's his best shot at a ring. Great core of players who've been there done that time after time after time with an outstanding coach. He could also get minutes at center there.