HndsmCelt
Hall of Famer
Well he might take the 800K we have
we can still sign and trade bonzi!?
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ezekielbear
Bench
He's not really our property any longer.
He can sign with us because we hold his Bird Rights allowing us to go over the cap to sign him (unlike other teams over the cap, who cant unless they use their MLE)...and we can then trade him to a team that wants him.
However, that's not going to happen since the Maloofs do not want to get into the luxury tax.
More or less, he and his agent played the wrong cards...and lost.
So now he's going to make less money, barring a sign and trade, but, as I said the Maloofs most likely wont go for that and the Kings have no reason to help him out.
And the really sad part is most teams are either a) full of sg's b) used their MLE or a part of it and c) want to avoid the tax
He really screwed himself bad imo.
Add in the fact he's going to be another year older...his value will never be higher...
He bit the dust hard.
He can sign with us because we hold his Bird Rights allowing us to go over the cap to sign him (unlike other teams over the cap, who cant unless they use their MLE)...and we can then trade him to a team that wants him.
However, that's not going to happen since the Maloofs do not want to get into the luxury tax.
More or less, he and his agent played the wrong cards...and lost.
So now he's going to make less money, barring a sign and trade, but, as I said the Maloofs most likely wont go for that and the Kings have no reason to help him out.
And the really sad part is most teams are either a) full of sg's b) used their MLE or a part of it and c) want to avoid the tax
He really screwed himself bad imo.
Add in the fact he's going to be another year older...his value will never be higher...
He bit the dust hard.
moradi420
Bench
was it made official that bonzi had askd for 5 yrs 50 million, or is that speculation. I think we should have gone as high as 43 over 5 mayber even 45, but i dont know obviously hell be usleless when he gets older but that just the nba thats how it goes players want security and thats usually what they get. To quote Anthony johnson " Unless the culture changes" players are gonna want more than there worth, especially when bonzi had a terrific post season, and that was after his leg injury. He said he was doing core work and yoga in the offseason. Overall i think it wsa a mistake to take john, and even a bigger mistake to not resign bonzi wells, even if his demand were unrealistc. Good teams gott deal with a little luxury tax and the other crap that comes along with excedding the salary cap.
ezekielbear
Bench
Petrie made the correct move in not paying Bonzi what he wanted.
I don't agree with paying Salmons that much...but...
Bonzi is not worth 9 and 10 a year.
I don't agree with paying Salmons that much...but...
Bonzi is not worth 9 and 10 a year.
HndsmCelt
Hall of Famer
Regardless of WHAT the Kings final offer was OR what Philips counter offers were the gap was too great. And yess the Kings have no rights to Bonzi otehr than Bird rights which are lost if he walks.
BUT the kicker is that since no team HAS more than the MLE to offer him and no one MADE a qualifying offer, NOW almost the ONLY way Bonzi can get a more than the MLE would be if the KINGS aproached Philips with a sign and trade proposition. So as unlikely as the the nubers look it is enteriely possible that that a sign and trad to a team with an exception might go down IF they had a pice or two the Kings need.
Other wise Bonzi will probably have to take MLE for 2 years and try the FA market again.
BUT the kicker is that since no team HAS more than the MLE to offer him and no one MADE a qualifying offer, NOW almost the ONLY way Bonzi can get a more than the MLE would be if the KINGS aproached Philips with a sign and trade proposition. So as unlikely as the the nubers look it is enteriely possible that that a sign and trad to a team with an exception might go down IF they had a pice or two the Kings need.
Other wise Bonzi will probably have to take MLE for 2 years and try the FA market again.
LA King Fan II
Bench
I agree. I don't feel he is worth committing 5 years to at 10/yr.
For some reason I suddenly have hope. I wish I could obtain some absolute certainty on #'s and the possibility that Bonzaroo can still be signed and traded for some workable parts.
Then again, I thought there was going to more to the Webber trade.
For some reason I suddenly have hope. I wish I could obtain some absolute certainty on #'s and the possibility that Bonzaroo can still be signed and traded for some workable parts.
Then again, I thought there was going to more to the Webber trade.
moradi420
Bench
neither is nene or wilcox, and jerome james isnt worth what hes paid, niether is kenyon martin really, or even chris bosh, same with ben wallace, shaq getting slower, tmacs injured too much, franchis and starburst whine too much.
It;s a fact players are overpaid, to keep the good ones you got to overpay as well, im sure we didnt have to go that high, no one else want bonzi, we didnt have to negotiate agsnt ourselves but we could have gone higher.
It;s a fact players are overpaid, to keep the good ones you got to overpay as well, im sure we didnt have to go that high, no one else want bonzi, we didnt have to negotiate agsnt ourselves but we could have gone higher.
ezekielbear
Bench
Bonzi had one great playoff stretch, and an okay season...
The guy is not worth 10 million bucks.
Petrie made the correct move, IMO.
The guy is not worth 10 million bucks.
Petrie made the correct move, IMO.
nbrans
All-Star
The problem with Boston is that in order for the S&T to work, the guy the Kings are getting back has to fit within Bonzi's salary range, and then the salary unloading would be treated as a separate deal (i.e. Pot and Hart for Boston's exemption). So, essentially Theo Ratliff or Wally, and I don't know that either of those guys is really worth it, not to mention that in order for the deal to work Bonzi would have to be making near $10 million at the start of his deal.
Dalembert might be a target in this scenario. S&T Bonzi, Potapenko and Hart for Dalembert and their trade exception? Might help Philly clear some salary.
LA King Fan II
Bench
Perhaps the nature of the league to overpay, but from a King's fan standpoint I certainly wouldn't count on Bonzi delivering 5 solid years in the future and would rather the Kings had more flexibility.
D-Mass
Starter
ezekielbear
Bench
I don't know, I kinda doubt it.
Bonzi has zero say in it now...
It's up to the Kings.
And being the Maloofs have more then once came out and said they really aren't interested in dipping into the tax...I don't seem them doing it.
Similar situation with Cat a few years back.
But, on the good side...the Kings really hold the cards here...it's not as if they are worried about losing Bonzi for nothing, so...if they want the S&T, they'll be getting something of value to them...if not, they wont panic into making a move.
SacKings384
Starter
I just don't understand Bonzi's camp here... He's not going to make anymore than what the Kings offer him.
ezekielbear
Bench
Bonzi is going to make a lot less money, no matter what.
At most, he gets the MLE...
He's lost money there.
He's going to be another year older...his value will never be higher...
He wont get another 5 year deal offer if he doesn't get one this season.
He and his agent played the wrong hand.
Kings had the best offer he was going to get, and he was still too greedy.
Tsk tsk to Bonzi
At most, he gets the MLE...
He's lost money there.
He's going to be another year older...his value will never be higher...
He wont get another 5 year deal offer if he doesn't get one this season.
He and his agent played the wrong hand.
Kings had the best offer he was going to get, and he was still too greedy.
Tsk tsk to Bonzi
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Please do not use that word anymore.
LA King Fan II
Bench
Sorry. How about rephrasing it too "a little more money in case they want to spend it on the type of player they ACTUALLY need?"
