Tyreke is going to get a rest

[Dr. Spaceman]

People aren't making anywhere near a big enough deal of this now. When relatives of players announce player status (on Twitter, no less) and the GM really has no idea, that is the sign of a full-on crisis. The player and the GM are no longer talking to each other.

I can think of only one thing the Kings could do to hurt ticket sales more than this: Announcing this is their last season here.

The lack of comments on this on sacbee can only indicate one of two things: Either people don't care, or sacbee's commenting system is broken. At this point, I'm tending to think it's the latter.

I have no reason to attend another Kings game this year. Was thinking about it, but not any more. They can keep their worthless scrap of paper.

There is now only one reason left to go to a Kings game, and that is to root for the opponent. Why bother?

Look at this petty lurker jumping out of the woodwork just to cry out that the sky is falling. Hopefully when you say "why bother," you mean to say that you won't be bothering this board anymore with your comical hysterics. It's all I've ever seen you do. I really do hope that's true. If so, have a nice life, Chicken Little.

 

[TIG 19]

Beno had plantar fasciitis injury almost the whole last season. He said he was every morning in big pain and he barely stood on his feet from the bed, but he played with painkillers every single night-and he had the best season in his career...

 

[rainmaker]

Beno had plantar fasciitis injury almost the whole last season. He said he was every morning in big pain and he barely stood on his feet from the bed, but he played with painkillers every single night-and he had the best season in his career...

You get in trouble as soon as you attempt comparing injuries. There are many, many degree's of plantar fasciitis. Just like ankle sprains, muscle pulls/tairs, back spasms, turf toe, bone breaks, dislocations, etc, they all come with various amounts of pain and levels of seriousness.

 

[kennadog]

Question: How did Tyreke come to believe that he had a stress fracture - as he told Jason Jones last week?
Apparently this was communicated to Jason as fact and not as speculation (as in "the doctor said that a stress fracture would explain why the treatments haven't been successful"). So what was said by what medical professional that led him to believe this? And who helped him interpret the information he was given?

Not sure of the timing, but the comment to Jason Jones may have been made before Evans received the second medical opinion from the doctor in LA? Doctors don't always agree on what's wrong. Good reason to have more than one opinion, although even two doctors can still be both wrong.

Looking at online information about treatment, good resolution takes months, not weeks. Unfortunately the longer the plantar faciitis goes on, the harder it apparently is to get rid of. It looks like, if Evans doesn't want this to be an ongoing issue that keeps cropping up, treatment might go on for quite a while.

 

[PacMan]

Not sure of the timing, but the comment to Jason Jones may have been made before Evans received the second medical opinion from the doctor in LA? Doctors don't always agree on what's wrong. Good reason to have more than one opinion, although even two doctors can still be both wrong.

Looking at online information about treatment, good resolution takes months, not weeks. Unfortunately the longer the plantar faciitis goes on, the harder it apparently is to get rid of. It looks like, if Evans doesn't want this to be an ongoing issue that keeps cropping up, treatment might go on for quite a while.

Ironically I actually had a talk with an attending physician in my class today about plantar fascitis. He told me that it actually improves with movement which explain why the pain is always worse in the morning but improved gradually through the day. Treatment for plantar fascitis includes stretching of the fascia which some people do by just rolling their feet over a tennis ball.

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

Twitter from Jason Jones

Petrie called severity of Reke's plantar fasciitis "minor" at this point. 18 minutes ago


mr_jasonjones On my way to HOU but spoke w/ Petrie re: Evans. Reke will stay on rehab plan on trip and its up to Reke to decide if he won't play. 21 minutes ago


mr_jasonjones Tyreke Evans (plantar fasciitis) is traveling with the #nbakings on 3-game road trip: http://bit.ly/eVGVf5 3 hours ago


mr_jasonjones Tyreke Evans will travel with the Kings to Houston and is listed as day-to-day (plantar fasciitis). 4 hours ago



On one hand, it is a fact that plantar fasciitis has caused other NBA players to play poorly. Recent examples from last yr would be Ron Artest in which phil jackson said he considered sitting Ron with his string of poor performances. Noah also had to sit in order for it to heal.

But Reke, PW and GP have made it sound like its very minor and he really can play through it. If thats the case, then is Tyreke & Team Tyreke deciding to sit because they want to figure out a solution to the string of bad games before letting it go on any longer.

 

[swisshh]

There is nothing to lose by letting him rest the foot. The team is not improving with him and his play is not improving either. In fact, the things that need improvement for his play to improve involve a growth in playing style more than they involve greater lift off that foot. Playing a rookie out and losing is one of those dumb moves that make an entire city question a franchise's intent.

 

[pshn80]

How long did it take for Tyreke's brother to type out the initial message?

 

[Big Cuz 15]

is it too early to start going for lins?

i'm all for it

 

[Big Cuz 15]

we can run the offense through demarcus now.

 

[Dr. Spaceman]

More news from Jason Jones' twitter feed:

"Petrie also said at this point Reke is closer to not having plantar fasciitis than having it. I'll go into detail from Texas."

So Westphal thinks there's definitely something wrong with Tyreke, Tyreke and his crew think there's something wrong with him, but Petrie seems like he is minimizing the injury. So, how does he explain Tyreke's play throughout pretty much the entire season? In the eyes of many fans, Reke has shown a notable regression in his defensive ability and much of his offense. And it's apparent it's not just method or technique at fault here.

If he's trying to say that Reke has been hurt but is already on the road to recovery, though, then that's nothing but a good thing.

 

[HighFlyingMonkey]

Pretty sure I read somewhere that Plantar Fascitis can disappear in a hurry. Can anyone back me up on this? It could just be in the last few days of no games its worn off.

 

[kingsboi]

This is getting frustrating. I hear one report saying he is going to rest, then another report comes out that he is going to travel with the team and is day-to-day. Someone needs to just come out and say what's going to happen, either play or don't.

 

[Asaf]

I think the elephant in the room is that maybe some people in the Kings organization think that Tyreke's recent slump isn't necessarily caused by the plantar fasciitis.

 

[rainmaker]

But based on the opinions the Kings medical staff and a second opinion Evans' agent Arn Tellem sought, Evans can play as long as he sticks with the walking boot off the court, sleeping with a splint along with medicine and exercises to keep his foot from getting tight.
"His diagnosis is still a minor case of plantar faciitiis," said Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie earlier today. "He's closer to not having it at all than having it."


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I have to agree with Asaf. Still impossible to tell how much this is really bothering him though.

 

[mac]

You get in trouble as soon as you attempt comparing injuries. There are many, many degree's of plantar fasciitis. Just like ankle sprains, muscle pulls/tairs, back spasms, turf toe, bone breaks, dislocations, etc, they all come with various amounts of pain and levels of seriousness.

This, and also the fact that their playing styles are entirely different. One guy uses size and strength to get to the basket, takes lots of contact and finishes, and can't hit an outside shot to save his life. The other lives on mid range pullups, which don't nearly require as much push off.

 

[Lockehead]

I think the elephant in the room is that maybe some people in the Kings organization think that Tyreke's recent slump isn't necessarily caused by the plantar fasciitis.

You may be onto something here =)

 

[Nighthawk1]

I think I'd rather air on the side of being caustion right now. Let him rest if he feels he needs it - it might be more mental than anything. I think the truth is he probably does feel a little slowed down because he can't do what he did last year but it's probably more related to the fact other teams have figured out they can stack the box to defend him. This is normal I would say to slow down in the beginning of season two, but mid way to end of the season he should be able to figure out how to get what he wants done.

 

[mr. moustache]

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This quote says a lot. GP doesn't provide more information than necessary ever. He's literally saying there's nothing physically wrong with Tyreke(that isn't also affecting nearly everyone else in the league).

Puzzling.

 

[Bricklayer]

This is getting frustrating. I hear one report saying he is going to rest, then another report comes out that he is going to travel with the team and is day-to-day. Someone needs to just come out and say what's going to happen, either play or don't.

The worst part is that this has just got to be adding to the confusion both for Reke and his teammates. This kind of needs to be settled one way or the other. This half and half stuff just adds even more uncertainty to a season full of it and probably further impairs any confidence or cohesiveness.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

First of all, I understand why some fans want him to sit. I get that .. thats the obvious answer.

I still think he should be playing though. Yes, this is a lost season, but important things can be learned. One of them being playing through injury. If it is minor like everyone is saying .. isnt this the perfect way Reke can learn how to play through something?? The games dont matter, the injury is there .. learn how to help the team in different ways if you cant drive. If that means being the facilitator and playinng good defense - DO THAT. Dont sit out unless you have too, and at this point I dont think he has too.

Im assuming he can play. He's played all season with this. He played two nights ago and looked fine physically. One thing is for sure, I dont like where this is headed. Beno played with this same condition last season. Duncan has played with it in the past. You can play with it.

And Luther MotherEffin Head is the starting 2 tonight? Really? I guess people have grown sick of complaining about crappy rotations, because they are still an issue. Only on this team will a guy, no wait .. make that 3 guys, go from bench to starter in a season. ( Greene, JT, and now Head ). Crazy.

 

[rhythmless]

Question: How did Tyreke come to believe that he had a stress fracture - as he told Jason Jones last week?
Apparently this was communicated to Jason as fact and not as speculation (as in "the doctor said that a stress fracture would explain why the treatments haven't been successful"). So what was said by what medical professional that led him to believe this? And who helped him interpret the information he was given?
When I was Tyreke's age, I badly sprained my ankle. Somehow I got confused from everything the doctor told me that I came to believe my ankle was broken. It's embarrassing now to think of how confused I was, but, really, at 20 years of age, I probably still thought I could be the President of the United States if I wanted to be.
Anyway, my point is that Tyreke is still a boy in many ways. A boy in a man's body. For him to believe that he had a stress fracture tells me that a) he was confused, and b) Team Tyreke let him down (or was equally confused).

I myself was diagnosed w/a fracture of the ankle before another Dr (specialist) stated it was a grade 3 tear of ligaments. Contrary to what you may believe, not all Dr's are created equal, and most GPs have just as much information as we do in diagnosing.

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

The worst part is that this has just got to be adding to the confusion both for Reke and his teammates. This kind of needs to be settled one way or the other. This half and half stuff just adds even more uncertainty to a season full of it and probably further impairs any confidence or cohesiveness.

Thats what I meant with my post earlier. Though there is the supposed injury, it almost seems like its not the real reason for Reke's poor play this year. It seems like there are other reasons. If the injury was such a huge factor, I don't understand why GP, PW and Reke himself keeps down playing it.

We've all noticed how Tyreke seems uninterested in the game at times, frequently this year. I mentioned his brothers' partying, rapping, living the high life has to be getting to Reke as well but no one wants to face it. He is only 21 yrs old and he will be easily influenced, especially when the influence is coming from his inner circle of Doc + Lamont the trainer/promoter.

Last year when Reke had a couple bad games, Doc + Lamont would be all over it trying to find solutions with private film sessions and shooting drills etc. This year, I've seen a bunch of music promoting efforts, "new single coming soon" shout outs and promoting parties from those 2 and nothing about helping Reke.

It leads to at least a small chance that the decision to shut it down for a while is just to avoid continuation of bad games and therefore ruin Reke's raising star status and cutting their meal ticket. I hope this is not the reason.

 

[kennadog]

Tyreke has been playing through his ankle and plantar faciitis injuries. Why anyone thinks he needs to learn to do that is beyond me. As pointed out, he played through ankle and plantar faciitis problems in HS and college.

There are differing degrees of plantar faciitis. You can't compare plantar faciitis cases like they are all exactly the same. Plantar faciitis is tears in the plantar fascia. If its severe, you can hardly walk. It can't not be affecting his game. Tim Duncan did not look like Tim Duncan when he played through the plantar faciitis.

I'm going to assume that doctors, Reke and the team are all going to play this by ear and do the best they can to help Reke get over this, whether its playing or not playing. Anybody, but the coach and/or GM should keep their collective mouths shut. And if he does play hurt, fans need to understand he's not going to look his best out there. Maybe for quite a while. It's going to affect pretty much all aspects of his game, until its better.