Tropical Island Music Artist Draft - FINIS

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
There ya go, both continuing the solo singer motif, and addressing the concerns of somebody I know who has been watching this draft and didn't see who would end up taking Marley.
 

Capt. Factorial

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There ya go, both continuing the solo singer motif, and addressing the concerns of somebody I know who has been watching this draft and didn't see who would end up taking Marley.
Somebody thought Marley wouldn't go? He's not exactly my favorite, but he's both immensely popular and immensely influential - I figured he was in play even in the first round, and I would have been surprised if he fell past the 4th.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Somebody thought Marley wouldn't go? He's not exactly my favorite, but he's both immensely popular and immensely influential - I figured he was in play even in the first round, and I would have been surprised if he fell past the 4th.

yep on the immensely, but he I guess didn't obviously fit any of the stylistic lists, and music probably isn't something where you take somebody just for influence that isn't listenable for you
 
yep on the immensely, but he I guess didn't obviously fit any of the stylistic lists, and music probably isn't something where you take somebody just for influence that isn't listenable for you
I actually really enjoy Bob Marley music and was tempted to take him instead of the Beastie Boys... but party music trumped political responsibility and Jah.
 
Somebody thought Marley wouldn't go? He's not exactly my favorite, but he's both immensely popular and immensely influential - I figured he was in play even in the first round, and I would have been surprised if he fell past the 4th.
Speaking as the somebody in question, I agree with all of the reasons it makes sense for him to have gone early, but it was more a question of drafters' tastes. Realistically, with a group of 16 people who have at least somewhat duplicative tastes (not that there hasn't been diversity, just that there have been definite genre clusters), there are probably going to be A LOT of artists who should go but won't. Just as there have always been movies left undrafted that should have been taken, and so forth. Just not enough people/picks to fully account for what's available, especially when these things get to the point in which everyone starts moving away from the obvious value picks and focuses more on the smaller things that are personally important. My conversation with Brick was less about thinking Marley wouldn't/shouldn't be taken, and more about the fact in looking at the lists as they were I didn't see a single person who stood out as the one who'd definitely take him. As such, assumed that if some big names go undrafted, which is almost certainly going to be the case, he could have been one of them.

Further, based on the way I would have drafted if I'd been a part of this, I'm not making any assumptions about who will or will not go. As much as I love some of the artists who have been taken so far, only Tom Waits and Otis Redding would have had even an ghost of a chance on my list. I decided when I was still considering whether or not I wanted to join that if I did I was going as annoyingly hipster obscure as possible in order to completely avoid some of the stress of strategizing. In that sense, I can say as an observer that I love Bob Marley and think he should have gone early, but I know for a fact I wouldn't have taken him myself were I drafting.
 
A lot of good picks this round, and I don't think anybody saw the Social Distortion pick coming. I like every pick so far (even warming up to Queen the past couple of years, I always disliked them) but I'm just not big enough a fan to warrant taking any of them on somebody that would likely appreciate them more
 

Capt. Factorial

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Speaking as the somebody in question, I agree with all of the reasons it makes sense for him to have gone early, but it was more a question of drafters' tastes. Realistically, with a group of 16 people who have at least somewhat duplicative tastes (not that there hasn't been diversity, just that there have been definite genre clusters), there are probably going to be A LOT of artists who should go but won't.
Outing yourself, eh? :)

My guess is that a lot of the early part of this draft is playing out a somewhat-expected run on the big hitters of classic rock - I think it's probably more of a strategic thing than a factor of duplicative taste, and I think that as the draft opens up there will be a lot more diversity in genre and a lot more out-of-left-field stuff.
 

pdxKingsFan

So Ordinary That It's Truly Quite Extraordinary
Staff member
I would've picked Social Distortion somewhere around round 15. I had Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell in my top 10 in the first albums draft and could have easily picked their S/T major debut, but I don't care for their newer stuff and their 80s stuff while pretty solid is completely replaceable by a dozen other bands. So basically its two great albums for me and that isn't enough to cut it this early.

Bad news is that I need a little bit of time to make my pick, just got out of an all afternoon meeting and am going to stew it over on my bike ride home. Sorry!!!
 
I don't know many hipsters that love Elvis. At least not the Elvis you picked. If anyone is setting of my hipster radar, it's Henkel.
How dare you. Now excuse me I have to go to Starbucks to do some writing on my MacBook while listening to bands you've never heard of, pleb.

In all seriousness I'm only like 20% hipster at the most, I don't even own any wool caps or skinny jeans.
 

pdxKingsFan

So Ordinary That It's Truly Quite Extraordinary
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On further thought, I'm ready to go ahead and do this. Too much of a catalogue to ignore so I'm gonna select David Bowie. From psychedelic folk to proto-punk glam to blue eyed soul to mega-hitmeister to electronica, Bowie dabbled in all of it in a career spanning 40 something years. Surely he's not finished either. There's enough A material for fans of just about every taste and if your tastes change dramatically then he probably still has you covered.

Will do a full write up later.
 

pdxKingsFan

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Them, I would've expected to go a lot earlier. Not quite my cup of tea, but I can still appreciate their greatness. A killer value pick this late in the draft, imho.
I like a lot of Queen songs but in the end I don't think I'd have wanted to pick them this high (which for me would have meant losing The Clash or Elvis). Plus I'm not entirely sure but I get to share Under Pressure right? Is that a duet or a featuring? I believe it was officially credited to "Queen and David Bowie".
 
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Ok, I think my other pick is safe for now. Hopefully it comes back to me in Round 4. I just can't let this band pass any longer. One of my all time favorites - their sound is so recognizable and so unique.



The Who

There are sooo many song choices for my island and I'm glad that I get The Who's whole library of music. Keith Moon is one of my favorite drummers ever and of course Townshend is beyond amazing. Here are just a few of my favorites..
I'm shocked they lasted this long. Especially with the run on classic rock so far.
 
While recognizing Springsteen's detractors amongst a certain set, given who was drafting in the top half of the draft I don't think that would have been very safe to assume at all. Now I would have cheerfully sent him up your way in the draft because I see myself sitting at a fulcrum, with a whole pack of classic rockers ahead of me, and an ecletic group behind me. Sending The Boss back through the latter half of the draft = good chance it works out. Sending him through the first half of the draft is taking a major chance to say the least.

P.S. In fact given the nature of the posters behind me I was prepared to risk (probably a bad risk) sending AC/DC or CCR around one more time through you guys. I think that would have bit me in the butt, but suffice it to say there is no possible way that could work out headed in the other direction (and it didn't).
Maybe you could of waited a bit, but I wouldn't have let him slip past me in 4th or 5th round. Darkness on the Edge of Town is one of my favorite records of all time.
 
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I had sworn to myself that I wouldn’t do this, but seeing the way this draft is going and how I’m currently at my father’s (who’d disown me, if i let the man drop any further), I find myself taking another value pick.



Miles Davis

Instrumental

My First Album of His: Funny Valentine
Favourite Album: Funny Valentine
Why I Started Listening: My father is a huge Jazz fan. Whenever I stayed with him, he played some footage of live concerts, many of which he attended. Miles Davis is one of his favourite musicians and when I came to him, asking for Jazz music (to which i, admittedly, only listen sporadically) Miles Davis is what I got. Of course, Davis is quite awesome and I do love me some trumpet, so, when I am in a Jazz mood, Mr. Davis is the go-to-guy, nevermind his importance and stuff.

[video=dailymotion;x4bi8j]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4bi8j_all-blues_music[/video]
 
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I, too, find myself making a value pick. I listen to this guy quite often, and although he's probably not my third favourite artist, he's up there, and I should be able to get other artists I like later on. In fact this is the guy I had trouble deciding whether or not to take over Johnny Cash in the last round. So rather unexpectedly, I'm gladly taking:




Bob Dylan

Huge catalogue of songs, with many classics in there. His song-writing ability is revered and rightly so. Dylan is an ATG musician, and on a desert island you need variety, intellect and a unique voice. Dylan certainly delivers on these counts.



Here is one of my favourite songs of his, even if it is based on something which turned out to be false.
 
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Capt. Factorial

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I like a lot of Queen songs but in the end I don't think I'd have wanted to pick them this high (which for me would have meant losing The Clash or Elvis). Plus I'm not entirely sure but I get to share Under Pressure right? Is that a duet or a featuring? I believe it was officially credited to "Queen and David Bowie".
I believe we get to share that track.

Bowie was definitely on my list, but I take Queen first. I guess we both got what we wanted! (Though I'd have enjoyed getting Bowie in maybe the 5th round, depending on who comes off the board...)
 

pdxKingsFan

So Ordinary That It's Truly Quite Extraordinary
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I believe we get to share that track.

Bowie was definitely on my list, but I take Queen first. I guess we both got what we wanted! (Though I'd have enjoyed getting Bowie in maybe the 5th round, depending on who comes off the board...)
Yeah I dunno if I was reaching, but the artists I have higher on my daily listening list are a lot more narrow in focus and not likely to be picked soon. And to some extent if people want to reach to grab an artist like Social D I am more than happy to share off the middle of my list.
 

pdxKingsFan

So Ordinary That It's Truly Quite Extraordinary
Staff member
Wouldn't Under Pressure be considered Queen's song, since it was released on their album?
Initially I thought so but it is credited the same way as a duet would be, not as Queen featuring David Bowie, which is how the rules were written up. Plus the single came out in October '81 and the album it was on Hot Space came out in May of the following year, so it was out there for well over half a year.
 
I, too, find myself making a value pick. I listen to this guy quite often, and although he's probably not my third favourite artist, he's up there, and I should be able to get other artists I like later on. In fact this is the guy I had trouble deciding whether or not to take over Johnny Cash in the last round. So rather unexpectedly, I'm gladly taking:




Bob Dylan

Huge catalogue of songs, with many classics in there. His song-writing ability is revered and rightly so. Dylan is an ATG musician, and on a desert island you need variety, intellect and a unique voice. Dylan certainly delivers on these counts.



Here is one of my favourite songs of his, even if it is based on something which turned out to be false.


Stellar pick!
 
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Glenn

Hall of Famer
I'm in the same boat. Also with bands like Zeppelin and the Doors, loved them once but don't have the desire to go back to them much these days.
Does anyone watch any of the three CSIs? The theme songs are not only by The Who but are off the same record.
 
Outing yourself, eh? :)

My guess is that a lot of the early part of this draft is playing out a somewhat-expected run on the big hitters of classic rock - I think it's probably more of a strategic thing than a factor of duplicative taste, and I think that as the draft opens up there will be a lot more diversity in genre and a lot more out-of-left-field stuff.
I can't speak for anyone else but any classic rock I'm picking are bands that are among my all time favorite artists. Most of the best rock happens to be classic rock in my opinion so that's why i gravitate toward it. I wouldn't pick a classic rock giant just for value though. For example, I wouldn't have taken Queen or The Who even if they had fallen to me because while I like those bands, they just aren't favorites.