Trade Suggestion: Fox for Simmons + #28
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Of course he should try to get more than Buddy/Bags/1st. He should try to get as much as he can. But what he did was stupidly, predictably, torpedo his own bargaining position. According to The Athletic Morey "asked for a package of Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman, the seventh and 14th picks and two future first-rounders. There was never bargaining."
You think maybe some teams that might have offered a better package than the Kings' just bowed out at that point? By all accounts, the market for Simmons is bone-dry right now (though I read one report that a "small-market team" has an offer on the table). If you're Morey, your bargaining strategy should also account for the fact that, just as with fans, a LOT of GMs really, truly don't hold Simmons in the esteem that his "25 years old, All-NBA Defense, 3-time All-Star" resume would otherwise suggest.
Plus, as others have said, it's not at all clear that Morey's whole all-star-for-an-all-star logic makes substantive sense. Just like it's not at all clear that the Lakers are better w/Westbrook than they would have been with Buddy. Westbrook is the better overall player, but Buddy is what that team most needs. Buddy in Philly or LA could revert to 43% 3-pt shooting form on ~8 attempts/game.
Look, it could still work out well enough for the Sixers. *Maybe* Simmons pulls his head out, plays well, and either gets traded for a decent package - or stays w/Philly thru the season and redeems himself in the postseason. OR not. I personally think they'd be sitting pretty w/Malcolm Brogdon and, say, Chris Duarte right now (who could have been picked w/the 1st that was also rumored to be part of Indy's trade offer).
Ugly.
You think maybe some teams that might have offered a better package than the Kings' just bowed out at that point? By all accounts, the market for Simmons is bone-dry right now (though I read one report that a "small-market team" has an offer on the table). If you're Morey, your bargaining strategy should also account for the fact that, just as with fans, a LOT of GMs really, truly don't hold Simmons in the esteem that his "25 years old, All-NBA Defense, 3-time All-Star" resume would otherwise suggest.
Plus, as others have said, it's not at all clear that Morey's whole all-star-for-an-all-star logic makes substantive sense. Just like it's not at all clear that the Lakers are better w/Westbrook than they would have been with Buddy. Westbrook is the better overall player, but Buddy is what that team most needs. Buddy in Philly or LA could revert to 43% 3-pt shooting form on ~8 attempts/game.
Look, it could still work out well enough for the Sixers. *Maybe* Simmons pulls his head out, plays well, and either gets traded for a decent package - or stays w/Philly thru the season and redeems himself in the postseason. OR not. I personally think they'd be sitting pretty w/Malcolm Brogdon and, say, Chris Duarte right now (who could have been picked w/the 1st that was also rumored to be part of Indy's trade offer).
Ugly.
The longer this drags out, the worse it is for Simmons (especially financially) and the worse it is for the Sixers franchise. I’m sure the fans are fed up and the team is already distracted and annoyed. Not sure what the Sixers are hoping to get in return here, but even I can see this needs to end very soon if they want to have a chance of competing for a championship this year.
Personally, I think this is a strange take from his agent. Even the agent claimed he was told he wouldn't be in the rotation on opening night. That is a far cry from saying he is out of the rotation for the foreseeable future. Trying to make a public stink right now is worst thing he could do for both the Kings and for Bagley. He accomplishes nothing positive for anyone involved.
This is maybe the one time where the Kings' ineptitude was already factored into selecting the worst player out of the next 4 picks so nobody is going to turn back around and say "Vlade made a great pick here but everything else"... Hell, even if it were true, it's going to take years for Bagley to get out from the hole he's dug for himself.
Simmons on the other hand I think there is a pretty legit argument that even as petulant as he is behaving, puts up all NBA defense and ultimately outside of Philly, Boston, NY and maybe LA and GS he'd get showered with adulation from adoring fans instead of being blamed for the reason the team which has horribly mismanaged the assets from the process has failed to get past the 2nd round.
Simmons on the other hand I think there is a pretty legit argument that even as petulant as he is behaving, puts up all NBA defense and ultimately outside of Philly, Boston, NY and maybe LA and GS he'd get showered with adulation from adoring fans instead of being blamed for the reason the team which has horribly mismanaged the assets from the process has failed to get past the 2nd round.
haha. And he very well might. Unless the rumors of some of these demands were true. If he's not delusional he was always just setting up the bar impossibly high to play the waiting game that a team somewhere in the middle of the pack will disappoint and will be willing to send off the best win now package once reality hits.
