Things you would change about the NBA

International games would probably require more days off. Otherwise I dont really care. If I was in a small market or destination city I might be intertested more. The whole thing, for me, is pretty lackluster at this point. Im not really sure what would get me interested in the AS weeekend to be honest.
 

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Incoming hot take/unpopular opinion: I was catching up on Oddball, and Amin Elhassan had a take about All-Star Weekend that I'm sure is going to be unpopular here, but which I find myself in one hundred percent agreement with: there should be a core group of eight locations where the All-Star game should be held, eight out of every ten years, and all eight of those core locations should be destinations that are attractive to NBA players (humorously, he left New York City off his list of core locations because it's too cold, which is a take I also agree with), the ninth year should rotate between the small-market teams, and the tenth year should be international.
Somehow I think a system that would result in the All-Star game being held in New York City once every 110 years (and in Sacramento once every 220 years) won't go over well.
 

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International games would probably require more days off. Otherwise I dont really care. If I was in a small market or destination city I might be intertested more. The whole thing, for me, is pretty lackluster at this point. Im not really sure what would get me interested in the AS weeekend to be honest.
what if they set a point limit and the team that reaches it first wins the game, let's say first to 100. more incentive to defend, possibly
 

pdxKingsFan

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what if they set a point limit and the team that reaches it first wins the game, let's say first to 100. more incentive to defend, possibly
there needs to be incentive to win for there to be incentive to defend? I don't think there are any great answers but doing away with the captains pick the team on the day of the game is a must.
 

kingsboi

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there needs to be incentive to win for there to be incentive to defend? I don't think there are any great answers but doing away with the captains pick the team on the day of the game is a must.
absolutely. if you don't defend, you don't win and the winner has bragging rights which is huge among the big names and egos involved. getting rid of captains period would be a healthy approach in my opinion, how about doing a lottery style system? draw names from a ping pong ball machine.
 
Enforcing the rules a little more would help a lot. Traveling, double dribble, carrying the ball happen all the time. Moving screens, lane violations are next.

The 3 ball makes some games pretty boring. Its just a 3 point shooting contest. Not sure how to fix it. Back up the line one foot maybe.
 

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Enforcing the rules a little more would help a lot. Traveling, double dribble, carrying the ball happen all the time. Moving screens, lane violations are next.
I'm not sure about double dribble - I don't see a lot of those - but the others definitely are graded on an Ivy League Curve at this point. Screens and lane violations could easily be brought under control. but traveling and carrying are basically part of the game now and I can't even imagine the stuff that has been established as "a player's signature move" getting called. It's a players' league, what are you going to do?

The 3 ball makes some games pretty boring. Its just a 3 point shooting contest. Not sure how to fix it. Back up the line one foot maybe.
At one point there was some chatter about making the line more of (or exactly) a circle, which would eliminate the corner three. Even that would change the game quite a bit as the incentive to camp out in the corner would be essentially removed. As it is, I get where you're coming from. For years the stats geeks would scream about shot efficiency and tell you that the best strategy was to shoot everything either in the paint or behind the arc, and teams just kept going after midrange shots. Finally the NBA world catches up to the stats geeks, but it totally changes the requisite skills for an NBA player. Shoot or die.

Moving the arc out a foot or two would definitely make things more interesting - open up the paint even more, reduce the efficiency advantage of the three...it's time to think about it.
 
I was thinking about this after the Superbowl: The NBA would never do this but that if the playoffs were exactly the same as they are now BUT the NBA finals is ONE single elimination game played on a neutral court? Prop it up like the superbowl.
 
I was thinking about this after the Superbowl: The NBA would never do this but that if the playoffs were exactly the same as they are now BUT the NBA finals is ONE single elimination game played on a neutral court? Prop it up like the superbowl.
Or alternatively you could do single elimination until you get to the Finals, then it’s a multi game series.

Not necessarily advocating for either ideas, just food for thought
I would absolutely...
HATE this format.
 

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I was thinking about this after the Superbowl: The NBA would never do this but that if the playoffs were exactly the same as they are now BUT the NBA finals is ONE single elimination game played on a neutral court? Prop it up like the superbowl.
**** no! One of the things I love about the NBA is that it's virtually impossible to get a fluke win in a seven-game series. Leave that kind of gimmickry for the "We Gettin' Arab Money!" Cup.
 
Step back 3 is traveling and a violation (turnover) in NBA for decades. Not sure when changed but gives offense player way too much advantage over the defender. No need to move the 3 pt line (although I'd OK with adjusting) but traveling is traveling.
 

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Step back 3 is traveling and a violation (turnover) in NBA for decades. Not sure when changed but gives offense player way too much advantage over the defender. No need to move the 3 pt line (although I'd OK with adjusting) but traveling is traveling.
It (allegedly) changed when James Harden was discussing how traveling was officiated with a referee before a game. The story goes that he was told that he's allowed two steps before he's called for traveling and he (allegedly) asked the ref, "Do the two steps have to be going towards the basket?" The referee thought about it for a minute and ultimately said, "No," and now, here we are.
 
**** no! One of the things I love about the NBA is that it's virtually impossible to get a fluke win in a seven-game series. Leave that kind of gimmickry for the "We Gettin' Arab Money!" Cup.

I get it and don’t disagree. Having said that, the general population doesn’t feel that way.
A single finals game would probably pull 60-80 mil viewers instead of 12. Casuals love the NCAA tourney because it’s single elimination.
 

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I get it and don’t disagree. Having said that, the general population doesn’t feel that way.
A single finals game would probably pull 60-80 mil viewers instead of 12. Casuals love the NCAA tourney because it’s single elimination.
There's 64 68 teams and they're theoretically amateur students and it is a low stakes intro to casual gambling.

I think when the FF is the 4, 5, 5 and 9 seeds it lends itself to a lot of questions as to whether or not the best team is crowned or just a tournament champion.
 

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I get it and don’t disagree. Having said that, the general population doesn’t feel that way.
A single finals game would probably pull 60-80 mil viewers instead of 12. Casuals love the NCAA tourney because it’s single elimination.
  1. Zero percent chance an NBA game draws 80 million.
  2. The interest that the NCAA draws is entirely because of gambling, and even then, only the first few rounds. By the time you get to the Final Four, even casuals want to see chalk.
  3. Gambling aside, I've said this before and I'll say it again: people flock to watch college basketball for reasons that have nothing to do with basketball. You can't replicate that level of interest for professionals.
 
Or alternatively you could do single elimination until you get to the Finals, then it’s a multi game series.

Not necessarily advocating for either ideas, just food for thought
need to make playing 82 games in a regular season worth it and single elimination doesn't achieve this. I think tinkering with things that aren't broke is a losing proposition and over complicating it a bit too much to draw audiences that they think they can draw with some play-in style tournaments or emulating a soccer tournament. Go back to the 3-5-7 format for the Postseason. Success.
 
Step back 3 is traveling and a violation (turnover) in NBA for decades. Not sure when changed but gives offense player way too much advantage over the defender. No need to move the 3 pt line (although I'd OK with adjusting) but traveling is traveling.
it's comical that its not being called as a travel when it is. On top of that, you have players do this "deceleration" move where they slowly take two steps which eventually leads into three to make a move. It will continue to grow in popularity.
 
need to make playing 82 games in a regular season worth it and single elimination doesn't achieve this. I think tinkering with things that aren't broke is a losing proposition and over complicating it a bit too much to draw audiences that they think they can draw with some play-in style tournaments or emulating a soccer tournament. Go back to the 3-5-7 format for the Postseason. Success.
Don’t think regular season is going to get better or worse. Casuals aren’t tuning in for 82, 60 or even 40 for that matter. No different than baseball or hockey. Get as much engagement as you can through multi media platforms and then double down on improving the intensity of the playoffs.
 

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need to make playing 82 games in a regular season worth it and single elimination doesn't achieve this. I think tinkering with things that aren't broke is a losing proposition and over complicating it a bit too much to draw audiences that they think they can draw with some play-in style tournaments or emulating a soccer tournament. Go back to the 3-5-7 format for the Postseason. Success.
What do you mean, "back to"? When was the playoff format ever 3-5-7?