Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
ha, I was actually considering him. How sad. 
TDOS All Time Kings Fantasy Draft II (Round 10)
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Dime Dropper
All-Star
Toney Douglas
2012-2013
22gms 17.1min 6.1pts (.430 .389 1.000) 2.2reb 2.6ast 1.4stl 0.0blk 1.1TO
In need of a strong guard that can come off the bench and play both the 1 and the 2, keep the offense moving, play great defense and provide a spark of scoring, I look no further than Douglas. Only here for a short stint a couple years back, Toney played great in his limited minutes. He's a guy that can and will get hot and his per-36 is quite impressive when he gets the minutes. He will be a fine complement to my bench unit and guard rotation.
Not sure if intentional, but that's a picture of T-Rob, not Douglas.
kingsnation
All-Star
Hahahahaha didn't even notice last night. Omg. It was a long day yesterday, what can I say?
I'll fix it later. Time for work.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Okay, well, in some ways its too bad that I chose to try to build a real team here. Again so many fun distinctive ways I could do things here and turn my team into a freakshow, and I've pondered a dozen different guys, but instead I'm going to fill another need:
PF Lawrence Funderburke (1998-99): 47gms (of 50) 19.9min 8.9pts (.559 .200 .708) 4.7reb 0.6ast 0.5stl 0.5blk 1.1TO
Probably the best remaining offensive big man on the board, and fun possibilities aside, I did feel I needed a spare scorer to backup my frontline for those times Boogie is not out there, and a scorer with a little goto in him to anchor my bench. Fundy was massively efficient and effective as a scorer backing up Webb in those early Adelman years. And again, when not telling you that the world was going to end in a divinely inspired cataclysm any day now and you were going to burn in hellfire, a very mature guy who founded a Youth Organization for at risk kids while he was still playing, and even wrote a book about how to avoid the darkside of the NBA lifestyle, which I will have him directly distributing around my colorful lockerroom.
PF Lawrence Funderburke (1998-99): 47gms (of 50) 19.9min 8.9pts (.559 .200 .708) 4.7reb 0.6ast 0.5stl 0.5blk 1.1TO
Probably the best remaining offensive big man on the board, and fun possibilities aside, I did feel I needed a spare scorer to backup my frontline for those times Boogie is not out there, and a scorer with a little goto in him to anchor my bench. Fundy was massively efficient and effective as a scorer backing up Webb in those early Adelman years. And again, when not telling you that the world was going to end in a divinely inspired cataclysm any day now and you were going to burn in hellfire, a very mature guy who founded a Youth Organization for at risk kids while he was still playing, and even wrote a book about how to avoid the darkside of the NBA lifestyle, which I will have him directly distributing around my colorful lockerroom.
Well, Brick just made my choice that much easier...
SG/SF Ricky Berry (1988-89): 64gms 22.0min 11.0pts (.450 .406 .789) 3.1reb 1.3ast 0.6stl 0.3blk 1.3TO
It's hard for me to figure exactly what to do with my "final" pick. I'm not completely in love with my front line, and this selection is going to push Donte into even more duty at the 4 spot, but with Funderburke gone I don't see enough value in the remaining big men to pass on the talents of Berry. His story is a tragic one, but here we're concerned about the on-court stuff, and on court he was an athletic 6'8" wing who was a fine per-minute rebounder and scorer, and who could really hit the three ball. That's certainly good enough to be the ninth guy in my rotation.
SG/SF Ricky Berry (1988-89): 64gms 22.0min 11.0pts (.450 .406 .789) 3.1reb 1.3ast 0.6stl 0.3blk 1.3TO
It's hard for me to figure exactly what to do with my "final" pick. I'm not completely in love with my front line, and this selection is going to push Donte into even more duty at the 4 spot, but with Funderburke gone I don't see enough value in the remaining big men to pass on the talents of Berry. His story is a tragic one, but here we're concerned about the on-court stuff, and on court he was an athletic 6'8" wing who was a fine per-minute rebounder and scorer, and who could really hit the three ball. That's certainly good enough to be the ninth guy in my rotation.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Well, Brick just made my choice that much easier...
SG/SF Ricky Berry (1988-89): 64gms 22.0min 11.0pts (.450 .406 .789) 3.1reb 1.3ast 0.6stl 0.3blk 1.3TO
It's hard for me to figure exactly what to do with my "final" pick. I'm not completely in love with my front line, and this selection is going to push Donte into even more duty at the 4 spot, but with Funderburke gone I don't see enough value in the remaining big men to pass on the talents of Berry. His story is a tragic one, but here we're concerned about the on-court stuff, and on court he was an athletic 6'8" wing who was a fine per-minute rebounder and scorer, and who could really hit the three ball. That's certainly good enough to be the ninth guy in my rotation.
Wha?
Doh!
I was looking at him rounds ago, and was of course precisely the piece I would have needed on this last pick. Somehow I got it in my head he had already been taken. In fact more than that, somehow I had already greyed him out thus confirming to me he was already taken. Hope that did not screw people up. If its any consolation it screwed me up too.
William Blake
Bench
I pick:
Mike McGee
1987-1988: 37gms 23.9min 14.2pts (.421 .340 .771) 3.9reb 1.6ast 1.3stl 0.2blk 1.6TO
I need a swingman and some scoring punch off the bench, McGee is the best answer left on the board as he brings phenomenal per-minute scoring. He's not the most efficient guy ever but I hope that my passing-oriented team can get him good looks.
He also brings championship experience to a locker room that hasn't seen much winning.
Mike McGee
1987-1988: 37gms 23.9min 14.2pts (.421 .340 .771) 3.9reb 1.6ast 1.3stl 0.2blk 1.6TO
I need a swingman and some scoring punch off the bench, McGee is the best answer left on the board as he brings phenomenal per-minute scoring. He's not the most efficient guy ever but I hope that my passing-oriented team can get him good looks.
He also brings championship experience to a locker room that hasn't seen much winning.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I pick:
Mike McGee
1987-1988: 37gms 23.9min 14.2pts (.421 .340 .771) 3.9reb 1.6ast 1.3stl 0.2blk 1.6TO
I need a swingman and some scoring punch off the bench, McGee is the best answer left on the board as he brings phenomenal per-minute scoring. He's not the most efficient guy ever but I hope that my passing-oriented team can get him good looks.
He also brings championship experience to a locker room that hasn't seen much winning.
Sigh, another guy I was looking seriously at. My biggest concern being meta: after already taking Jawann and Rory, adding a third old timer who's game I remembered but nobody else did seemed dicey.
63royals
Bench
Anthony Johnson (PG)
1997-98: 77 games, 29.4 minutes, 7.5 points (.370, .734, .328), 2.2 rebounds, 4.3 assists, 0.8 steals, 0.1 blocks, 1.6 turnovers
Spent the first of his 13 NBA seasons as a King, and part of a season 10 years later. Solid NBA player, strong on defense, not a big scorer. Primarily a point guard, but at 6'3" tall enough to guard shooting guards.
1997-98: 77 games, 29.4 minutes, 7.5 points (.370, .734, .328), 2.2 rebounds, 4.3 assists, 0.8 steals, 0.1 blocks, 1.6 turnovers
Spent the first of his 13 NBA seasons as a King, and part of a season 10 years later. Solid NBA player, strong on defense, not a big scorer. Primarily a point guard, but at 6'3" tall enough to guard shooting guards.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
If it hadn't have been his rookie season, that was the guy I was going to pick up as my backup PG to continue my defense theme.
Bosnian Diehard
Starter
With my final two picks...
I select:
Cole Aldrich, C
2012-13: 15gms 11.7min 3.3pts (.568, .727, ---) 0.2ast 3.0reb 0.1stl 0.9blk 0.6TO
Decent shotblocker off the bench, doesn't need to ball to produce.
and
Ray McCallum, PG/SG
2013-14: 45gms 19.9min 6.2 pts (.377, .744, .373) 2.7ast 1.8reb 0.5stl 0.2blk 0.9TO
The stats are a bit misleading considering how well he played in the latter part of the season.
I select:
Cole Aldrich, C
2012-13: 15gms 11.7min 3.3pts (.568, .727, ---) 0.2ast 3.0reb 0.1stl 0.9blk 0.6TO
Decent shotblocker off the bench, doesn't need to ball to produce.
and
Ray McCallum, PG/SG
2013-14: 45gms 19.9min 6.2 pts (.377, .744, .373) 2.7ast 1.8reb 0.5stl 0.2blk 0.9TO
The stats are a bit misleading considering how well he played in the latter part of the season.
63royals
Bench
All that's left for me is to pick a coach. That's a tough one, because the guy I want sat on the Kings bench, but I can't choose him. I got to watch Pete Carril's teams for 4 years in college, and I developed an appreciation for good team basketball. I always thought he could coach at a higher level than the Ivy League, and his contribution to the Kings' success in our glory years proved that. You could argue about Pete Carril vs. Rick Adelman, but I'd put him clearly ahead of any of the other coaches the Sacramento Kings have had.
I have 2 guys on my team, Mike Woodson and Vinny Del Negro, who went on to be NBA coaches, and Chris Webber has plenty of basketball smarts. So I'm going to choose Bill Russell as coach and buy him some tall guy golf clubs and encourage him to go do what he really wants to. Then I'll try to sneak Pete Carril in behind the bench.
FWIW while I was at Princeton I had this math teacher. He was a great teacher, I got an A in his class, but there seemed to be something strange about him. Then 25 years later the movie A Beautiful Mind came out ...
I have 2 guys on my team, Mike Woodson and Vinny Del Negro, who went on to be NBA coaches, and Chris Webber has plenty of basketball smarts. So I'm going to choose Bill Russell as coach and buy him some tall guy golf clubs and encourage him to go do what he really wants to. Then I'll try to sneak Pete Carril in behind the bench.
FWIW while I was at Princeton I had this math teacher. He was a great teacher, I got an A in his class, but there seemed to be something strange about him. Then 25 years later the movie A Beautiful Mind came out ...
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63royals
Bench
Yeah but the problem is we can't take that Bill Russell in this draft -- we only get the version that coached the Kings. Just like the only Ralph Sampson available in this draft is the broken-down version who was here.I don't know... Russell is the only guy in the draft with more than one ring as a head coach, right? Just don't mention his stint with the Kings.
uolj
Starter
Well, if you want to get technical about it, sure. But there's nothing wrong with reminding people of a person's success elsewhere. In this alternate universe maybe Russell is motivated.
Also, there's no actual rule on assistants. So if you want to pretend Carril's on your bench. Go for it!
Also, there's no actual rule on assistants. So if you want to pretend Carril's on your bench. Go for it!
I think I'll just sit over here and shoot the breeze with Rick Adelman while you guys find ways to reassure yourselves that your coach is potentially something less than a total disaster.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
William, are you already gone? Thought that was tomorrow? Last pick time.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Well, looks like Capt. is up with his Rock pick, but really all he has to do is decide which version of Rock he wants, the one from Escape to Witch Mountain, or the one from The Tooth Fairy.Knowing Capt, I think I can guess:
Well, looks like Capt. is up with his Rock pick, but really all he has to do is decide which version of Rock he wants, the one from Escape to Witch Mountain, or the one from The Tooth Fairy.Knowing Capt, I think I can guess:
Yeah, that one!
My strategy has finally come to fruition! With my final pick I select Mitch Richmond, who is about the greatest last-round draft pick you'll ever see.
SG Mitch Richmond (1996-1997): 81gms 38.6min 25.9pts (.454 .428 .861) 3.9reb 4.2ast 1.5stl 0.3blk 2.9TO
In '96-'97 Mitch had one of the best seasons in Sacramento history. Unfortunately, he had very little help and not one but two pretty lousy coaches. So let's see how he fares when we put him together with the best of Tyreke, McCray, Landry, and Pollard with the best coach in Sacramento history by a long shot!
SG Mitch Richmond (1996-1997): 81gms 38.6min 25.9pts (.454 .428 .861) 3.9reb 4.2ast 1.5stl 0.3blk 2.9TO
In '96-'97 Mitch had one of the best seasons in Sacramento history. Unfortunately, he had very little help and not one but two pretty lousy coaches. So let's see how he fares when we put him together with the best of Tyreke, McCray, Landry, and Pollard with the best coach in Sacramento history by a long shot!
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Ok, well, lots of possibilities occurred here. I was very close to breaking my own rule and picking a short season/limited game guy and just letting you figure out what that meant for my team. But no, I think to the end I'm going to take full season guys, and what I need is a swingman type to complete my bench. And sitting out there still is one of my favorite old unknown 1yr explosion cases from Kings history.
At various points in this draft I have targeted Bonzi Wells and Sarunas Marciulionis, both one year wonder SGs. I was never really after Mobley because of the half season thing, but I was aware of his shooting. In any case, those guys represent some of the best single season one and done Kings players in Sacto history. The sort of thing where you wonder why the hell didn't they just resign him? Well, my guy here is a 4th of that same type:
SG/SF Dennis Hopson (1991-92): 69gms 18.9min 10.7pts (.465 .255 .708) 3.0reb 1.5ast 1.0stl 0.6blk 1.4TO
To give you some idea of how that 1 yr wonder stacks up against other prominent Kings 1yr wonder seasons, consider these per 36 numbers:
Hopson 20.5pts (.465 .255 .708) 5.7reb 2.8ast 1.8stl 1.1blk 2.8TO
Rooney 19.8pts (.452 .408 .755) 2.7reb 4.1ast 1.8stl 0.1blk 3.3TO
Mobley 16.6pts (.440 .434 .831) 3.6reb 3.2ast 1.1stl 0.5blk 2.0TO
BWells 15.1pts (.463 .222 .679) 8.6reb 3.1ast 2.0stl 0.5blk 2.7TO
To put it another way, that year in 1991-92? Per 36:
MitchR 21.0pts (.468 .384 .813) 3.7reb 4.8ast 1.1stl 0.4blk 2.9TO
Hopson 20.5pts (.465 .255 .708) 5.7reb 2.8ast 1.8stl 1.1blk 2.8TO
Another way of saying Hopson had a helluva year. Heck of a tandem. Which us, being us, managed to pee away. I would have rather have had a true 3pt shooter at the spot, but in the 10th and final round, you aren't going to find it all. But Hopson that year for us was flat dynamic. He had been a #3 overall pick, and for a year you could see it. He was coming off a season backing up MICHAEL JORDAN and getting a championship ring out of it, then he came to us to back up Mitch Richmond and did a bang up job of it. He scored prolifically off the bench, he used his long arms to be disruptive on defense. Then he made the Bonzi mistake, and maybe so did we as we signed...well somebody who hasn't been taken yet but who did nothing for us, instead.
At various points in this draft I have targeted Bonzi Wells and Sarunas Marciulionis, both one year wonder SGs. I was never really after Mobley because of the half season thing, but I was aware of his shooting. In any case, those guys represent some of the best single season one and done Kings players in Sacto history. The sort of thing where you wonder why the hell didn't they just resign him? Well, my guy here is a 4th of that same type:
SG/SF Dennis Hopson (1991-92): 69gms 18.9min 10.7pts (.465 .255 .708) 3.0reb 1.5ast 1.0stl 0.6blk 1.4TO
To give you some idea of how that 1 yr wonder stacks up against other prominent Kings 1yr wonder seasons, consider these per 36 numbers:
Hopson 20.5pts (.465 .255 .708) 5.7reb 2.8ast 1.8stl 1.1blk 2.8TO
Rooney 19.8pts (.452 .408 .755) 2.7reb 4.1ast 1.8stl 0.1blk 3.3TO
Mobley 16.6pts (.440 .434 .831) 3.6reb 3.2ast 1.1stl 0.5blk 2.0TO
BWells 15.1pts (.463 .222 .679) 8.6reb 3.1ast 2.0stl 0.5blk 2.7TO
To put it another way, that year in 1991-92? Per 36:
MitchR 21.0pts (.468 .384 .813) 3.7reb 4.8ast 1.1stl 0.4blk 2.9TO
Hopson 20.5pts (.465 .255 .708) 5.7reb 2.8ast 1.8stl 1.1blk 2.8TO
Another way of saying Hopson had a helluva year. Heck of a tandem. Which us, being us, managed to pee away. I would have rather have had a true 3pt shooter at the spot, but in the 10th and final round, you aren't going to find it all. But Hopson that year for us was flat dynamic. He had been a #3 overall pick, and for a year you could see it. He was coming off a season backing up MICHAEL JORDAN and getting a championship ring out of it, then he came to us to back up Mitch Richmond and did a bang up job of it. He scored prolifically off the bench, he used his long arms to be disruptive on defense. Then he made the Bonzi mistake, and maybe so did we as we signed...well somebody who hasn't been taken yet but who did nothing for us, instead.
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Jespher
Starter
With my final roster spot I will add another shooter, a distributor, a rebounder, and a decent back-up guard defender.
With my 10th pick, I select:
Eddie House 2004-2005
6'1" 180# Point Guard - 50gms 11min 4.7pts (.458 .452 .929) 1.2reb 1.3ast 0.4stl 0.1blk 0.4TO
Eddie House was the 3rd point guard in a loaded Kings back court in 2004-2005 behind both Mike Bibby and Bobby Jackson. In only 11 minutes per game he posted a PER of 15.7, shooting .452 from 3 point range, and snagging 4 rebounds, 4.4 assists, and 1.2 steals per 36 minutes. Given a larger role he was able to sustain his efficiency in latter years with the Boston Celtics and Miami Heat, and his defensive tenacity will be a welcome addition off the bench, alongside either Danny Ainge or Reggie Theus, or even with Anthony Peeler. Bombs away!
With my 10th pick, I select:
Eddie House 2004-2005
6'1" 180# Point Guard - 50gms 11min 4.7pts (.458 .452 .929) 1.2reb 1.3ast 0.4stl 0.1blk 0.4TO
Eddie House was the 3rd point guard in a loaded Kings back court in 2004-2005 behind both Mike Bibby and Bobby Jackson. In only 11 minutes per game he posted a PER of 15.7, shooting .452 from 3 point range, and snagging 4 rebounds, 4.4 assists, and 1.2 steals per 36 minutes. Given a larger role he was able to sustain his efficiency in latter years with the Boston Celtics and Miami Heat, and his defensive tenacity will be a welcome addition off the bench, alongside either Danny Ainge or Reggie Theus, or even with Anthony Peeler. Bombs away!
kingsnation
All-Star
Well it's late and I'm on my phone but my pick is up and it's pretty obvious I'm taking Brent Price here.
Just kidding.
Mitch it is! Excited for the potential of a Mitch- Peja 1-2 punch. Will post stats and year tomorrow. Now just keeping the draft moving.
Just kidding.
Mitch it is! Excited for the potential of a Mitch- Peja 1-2 punch. Will post stats and year tomorrow. Now just keeping the draft moving.
