TDOS All Time Kings Fantasy Draft II (Round 10)
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Ok, I pondered, and pondered some more, but looking ahead to the rosters of the teams in front of me I didn't feel I could wait on taking a good backup PG:
PG Rory Sparrow (1990-91): 80gms 29.7min 10.4pts (.491 .397 .699) 2.3reb 4.5ast 1.0stl 0.2blk 1.6TO
I was looking several different ways and this pick feels a little uninspired to me, but in a lot of ways that's why I think its the right one. If I'm actually trying to win games the argument is just so much easier if I add to my bench a longterm unselfish roleplaying starter in the league (by the time he hit Sacto Sparrow had nearly 500 career starts as a PG), who played in nearly every game, who was also a good locker room guy who once won the NBA's citizenship award, and who was hitting his shots that year, both from 2 and 3. Is he dynamic? No. Is he going to win games himself? No. he couldn't in 90-91, I'm not asking him to now. But he's the solid vet, the solid citizen, guy to just back up Beno and keep things rollling sans ego problems, rookie jitters or anything else. When you're in a Kings draft, just finding a solid guy who isn't going to hurt you in some way is a minor accomplishment.
PG Rory Sparrow (1990-91): 80gms 29.7min 10.4pts (.491 .397 .699) 2.3reb 4.5ast 1.0stl 0.2blk 1.6TO
I was looking several different ways and this pick feels a little uninspired to me, but in a lot of ways that's why I think its the right one. If I'm actually trying to win games the argument is just so much easier if I add to my bench a longterm unselfish roleplaying starter in the league (by the time he hit Sacto Sparrow had nearly 500 career starts as a PG), who played in nearly every game, who was also a good locker room guy who once won the NBA's citizenship award, and who was hitting his shots that year, both from 2 and 3. Is he dynamic? No. Is he going to win games himself? No. he couldn't in 90-91, I'm not asking him to now. But he's the solid vet, the solid citizen, guy to just back up Beno and keep things rollling sans ego problems, rookie jitters or anything else. When you're in a Kings draft, just finding a solid guy who isn't going to hurt you in some way is a minor accomplishment.
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I need a third guard who can space the floor, handle defensive duties on ones, twos, and threes, and hit KG in the nuts when he deserves it.
With my 8th selection, I choose:
Anthony Peeler (2003-2004)
6'4" 208# Guard - 75gms 18.5min 5.7pts (.448 .482 .836) 2.0reb 1.6ast 0.7stl 0.1blk 1.0TO
Leading the entire NBA in 3 point % for 2003-2004, Peeler came off the bench to also log defensive assignments in Christie's place. In his 13th season, he brought veteran leadership, streaky shooting, toughness, and a physical edge that will compliment Ainge or Theus as a backcourt mate. Welcome aboard!
With my 8th selection, I choose:
Anthony Peeler (2003-2004)
6'4" 208# Guard - 75gms 18.5min 5.7pts (.448 .482 .836) 2.0reb 1.6ast 0.7stl 0.1blk 1.0TO
Leading the entire NBA in 3 point % for 2003-2004, Peeler came off the bench to also log defensive assignments in Christie's place. In his 13th season, he brought veteran leadership, streaky shooting, toughness, and a physical edge that will compliment Ainge or Theus as a backcourt mate. Welcome aboard!
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Greg Ostertag
2004-2005
56gms 9.9min 1.6pts (.440 .000 .342) 3.0reb 0.7ast 0.1stl 0.7blk 0.4TO
This is a fun pick for me. I literally despised Tag back in the day, even when he was on our team. However, today, in this draft, he fills a team need. Size. His 7'2" 280 lb frame is valuable to come in and knock around the DMCs of the world... maybe even draw a couple T's out of him.
Like many other players, Tag's worst year statistically came with Sacramento. However, his minutes were limited. His per-36 is quite impressive though, if he is needed to compete on that level.
If nothing else, he can come in, clog the paint, grab some rebounds, block a shot and agitate just about any other player on the court.
2004-2005
56gms 9.9min 1.6pts (.440 .000 .342) 3.0reb 0.7ast 0.1stl 0.7blk 0.4TO
This is a fun pick for me. I literally despised Tag back in the day, even when he was on our team. However, today, in this draft, he fills a team need. Size. His 7'2" 280 lb frame is valuable to come in and knock around the DMCs of the world... maybe even draw a couple T's out of him.
Like many other players, Tag's worst year statistically came with Sacramento. However, his minutes were limited. His per-36 is quite impressive though, if he is needed to compete on that level.
If nothing else, he can come in, clog the paint, grab some rebounds, block a shot and agitate just about any other player on the court.
I need a third guard who can space the floor, handle defensive duties on ones, twos, and threes, and hit KG in the nuts when he deserves it.
With my 8th selection, I choose:
Anthony Peeler (2003-2004)
6'4" 208# Guard - 75gms 18.5min 5.7pts (.448 .482 .836) 2.0reb 1.6ast 0.7stl 0.1blk 1.0TO
Leading the entire NBA in 3 point % for 2003-2004, Peeler came off the bench to also log defensive assignments in Christie's place. In his 13th season, he brought veteran leadership, streaky shooting, toughness, and a physical edge that will compliment Ainge or Theus as a backcourt mate. Welcome aboard!
With my 8th selection, I choose:
Anthony Peeler (2003-2004)
6'4" 208# Guard - 75gms 18.5min 5.7pts (.448 .482 .836) 2.0reb 1.6ast 0.7stl 0.1blk 1.0TO
Leading the entire NBA in 3 point % for 2003-2004, Peeler came off the bench to also log defensive assignments in Christie's place. In his 13th season, he brought veteran leadership, streaky shooting, toughness, and a physical edge that will compliment Ainge or Theus as a backcourt mate. Welcome aboard!
Greg Ostertag
2004-2005
56gms 9.9min 1.6pts (.440 .000 .342) 3.0reb 0.7ast 0.1stl 0.7blk 0.4TO
This is a fun pick for me. I literally despised Tag back in the day, even when he was on our team. However, today, in this draft, he fills a team need. Size. His 7'2" 280 lb frame is valuable to come in and knock around the DMCs of the world... maybe even draw a couple T's out of him.
Like many other players, Tag's worst year statistically came with Sacramento. However, his minutes were limited. His per-36 is quite impressive though, if he is needed to compete on that level.
If nothing else, he can come in, clog the paint, grab some rebounds, block a shot and agitate just about any other player on the court.
2004-2005
56gms 9.9min 1.6pts (.440 .000 .342) 3.0reb 0.7ast 0.1stl 0.7blk 0.4TO
This is a fun pick for me. I literally despised Tag back in the day, even when he was on our team. However, today, in this draft, he fills a team need. Size. His 7'2" 280 lb frame is valuable to come in and knock around the DMCs of the world... maybe even draw a couple T's out of him.
Like many other players, Tag's worst year statistically came with Sacramento. However, his minutes were limited. His per-36 is quite impressive though, if he is needed to compete on that level.
If nothing else, he can come in, clog the paint, grab some rebounds, block a shot and agitate just about any other player on the court.
P.S. I finally added full write-ups for Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Reggie Evans and Dick Motta
Ok, so only three players left. I need one more big for sure. Not a ton of options out there, but I think I'll go with somebody who can play center and be tall. If he was good enough to be a third big on the Bulls championship teams he's good enough to be my third big.
Bill Wennington
1990-91 77gms 18.9mpg 5.7pts (.436 .200 .787) 4.4reb 0.9ast 0.6stl 0.8blk 0.7TO
Bill Wennington
1990-91 77gms 18.9mpg 5.7pts (.436 .200 .787) 4.4reb 0.9ast 0.6stl 0.8blk 0.7TO
I'll admit right upfront, I'm not exactly proud of this pick.
Not because of the player - he's a solid guy to add to my roster - but rather, because of the circumstance.
It's borderline cheating. I will say though, if nothing else, it's a shade better than if I tried to draft Sam Cassell or Jason Terry. At least this guy actually donned the purple and black at Arco/PowerBalance/SleepTrain and put in some good work.
Truth is though, this is a desperation pick. I'm up against the wall and need someone who can man the middle to any extent.
Dalembert, Tank, Keon, Pollard, Skinner, Oldham, et al taken right before I was ready to the pull the trigger. He who hesitates …
No more. Not going to Sophia's Choice my way through the scrap heap of the more long term Kings big men left to choose from either. I'm taking the guy I think I need, even if he's only available due to a technicality.
Drew Gooden F/C (2009-2009): 1gm 26min 12pts (.556 .000 1.000) 13reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 3TO
And just for completion sake, showing his single game with the Kings was more or less in line with his overall contributing workload
TOTAL NBA (2008-2009): 51gms 24.8min 11.9pts (.468 .000 .840) 7.1reb 0.9ast 0.6ast 0.4blk 1.5TO
Gooden is more Power Forward than Center and he's actually perhaps even less of a shot blocking presence than Grant is. But he's got the size and ability, plus fits into the positionless basketball doctrine having played every front court position during his career. I'm confident having Gooden and Grant split time at the center spot will at least get me by. Did I say confident? I mean naively wishful.
At this stage of the draft, and given the alternatives, I'm glad to add a solid front court workman-like role player with size, rebounding and offensive skills.
I just hope you'll forgive me for having to kinda cheat to do it.
Ugh, I really wish I'd grabbed Oldham when I had the chance …
Not because of the player - he's a solid guy to add to my roster - but rather, because of the circumstance.
It's borderline cheating. I will say though, if nothing else, it's a shade better than if I tried to draft Sam Cassell or Jason Terry. At least this guy actually donned the purple and black at Arco/PowerBalance/SleepTrain and put in some good work.
Truth is though, this is a desperation pick. I'm up against the wall and need someone who can man the middle to any extent.
Dalembert, Tank, Keon, Pollard, Skinner, Oldham, et al taken right before I was ready to the pull the trigger. He who hesitates …
No more. Not going to Sophia's Choice my way through the scrap heap of the more long term Kings big men left to choose from either. I'm taking the guy I think I need, even if he's only available due to a technicality.
Drew Gooden F/C (2009-2009): 1gm 26min 12pts (.556 .000 1.000) 13reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 3TO
And just for completion sake, showing his single game with the Kings was more or less in line with his overall contributing workload
TOTAL NBA (2008-2009): 51gms 24.8min 11.9pts (.468 .000 .840) 7.1reb 0.9ast 0.6ast 0.4blk 1.5TO
Gooden is more Power Forward than Center and he's actually perhaps even less of a shot blocking presence than Grant is. But he's got the size and ability, plus fits into the positionless basketball doctrine having played every front court position during his career. I'm confident having Gooden and Grant split time at the center spot will at least get me by. Did I say confident? I mean naively wishful.
At this stage of the draft, and given the alternatives, I'm glad to add a solid front court workman-like role player with size, rebounding and offensive skills.
I just hope you'll forgive me for having to kinda cheat to do it.
Ugh, I really wish I'd grabbed Oldham when I had the chance …
Dime hasn't taken a coach yet... we could just assign him one (there are only 4 left). Unfortunately, Slamson cannot be drafted as a coach... he might have done a better job than the remaining 4 coaches. Looking over the list of former Kings coaches, it is truly amazing how many bad ones they have had...
I want to jump start the draft with a jolt of electricity and what better way to do that than with a founding member of the Bench Mob?
Tony Delk PG (1999-2000): 46gms 14.8min 6.4pts (.430 .225 .797) 1.1reb 1.2ast 0.8stl 0.1blk 0.7TO
An obvious drawback of being forced to start a stellar sixth man/bench spark plug type is missing that adrenaline shot in the arm when he takes the court mid game.
So, with Bobby J as my de facto starter, I'll take his Bench Mob predecessor to the spark plug role and just continually alternate between lightning bolt adrenaline shots as they cycle back and forth through the rotation.
Beyond that, Delk brings some solid D, good scoring off the bench and obviously a lot of energy.
Plus, had a reputation as a Kings killer once he left us. And that's all he'll be facing in this tourney.
Tony Delk PG (1999-2000): 46gms 14.8min 6.4pts (.430 .225 .797) 1.1reb 1.2ast 0.8stl 0.1blk 0.7TO
An obvious drawback of being forced to start a stellar sixth man/bench spark plug type is missing that adrenaline shot in the arm when he takes the court mid game.
So, with Bobby J as my de facto starter, I'll take his Bench Mob predecessor to the spark plug role and just continually alternate between lightning bolt adrenaline shots as they cycle back and forth through the rotation.
Beyond that, Delk brings some solid D, good scoring off the bench and obviously a lot of energy.
Plus, had a reputation as a Kings killer once he left us. And that's all he'll be facing in this tourney.
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Well, there's a couple really nice players still out there, and I'm going to take one that fits my needs well. This guy played power forward for the Kings and most of his career, but played at the 3 in his first couple seasons. He'll backup the LTrain at SF and CWebb at PF, and might even join both in a small ball lineup if we play Löwenherz.
I'm taking his second year with Sacramento, even though he was traded two thirds of the way in. But his 17.0 PER makes it clear he has some skills and is a bit of a steal at this late stage of the draft.
Ed Pinckney
1988-89 51gms 24.2min 12.3pts (.502 .000 .801) 5.9reb 1.5ast 1.1stl 0.8blk 1.6TO
I'm taking his second year with Sacramento, even though he was traded two thirds of the way in. But his 17.0 PER makes it clear he has some skills and is a bit of a steal at this late stage of the draft.
Ed Pinckney
1988-89 51gms 24.2min 12.3pts (.502 .000 .801) 5.9reb 1.5ast 1.1stl 0.8blk 1.6TO
Really sorry for holding everything up, stupid phone wouldn't let me sign in.
I've only two picks left, one for a coach and one for my franchise player. So my pick is:
Rex Hughes
Rex is the only coach left who has the distinct benefit of not being any of Russell, Reynolds or Natt. He obviously had a higher winning % than any of those, and get this, Hughes went on to unrivalled success with the Spurs. He won 100% of his games as their coach, higher than the highly-rated Popovic. His 100% win record with the Spurs is the winningest single season % for any coach ever in NBA history, ever (did I mention ever?). So yeah, I've got a true genius at the helm.
I've only two picks left, one for a coach and one for my franchise player. So my pick is:
Rex Hughes
Rex is the only coach left who has the distinct benefit of not being any of Russell, Reynolds or Natt. He obviously had a higher winning % than any of those, and get this, Hughes went on to unrivalled success with the Spurs. He won 100% of his games as their coach, higher than the highly-rated Popovic. His 100% win record with the Spurs is the winningest single season % for any coach ever in NBA history, ever (did I mention ever?). So yeah, I've got a true genius at the helm.
Ah, almost forgot about that. Here's my pick, to save you having to fetch the stats yourself.
Derek Smith: G/F (1986-87) 52gms 31.9mins 16.6ppg (.446 .273 .781) 3.5rpg 3.9apg 0.9spg 0.4bpg 2.4TO
This was a no brainer at this point and I've no idea why he lasted this long - perhaps people just forgot about him or didn't know about him. He was often injured, but managed a very respectable 50+gm season. He was very productive and could play both SG and SF, giving me extra depth and versatility. I'm probably going to have to use Mobley for spot minutes at PG, but really, he's still going to be better there than the majority of backup PGs other teams have. This is worth passing over a true backup point - Smith would probably start on a lot of the teams here.
Derek Smith: G/F (1986-87) 52gms 31.9mins 16.6ppg (.446 .273 .781) 3.5rpg 3.9apg 0.9spg 0.4bpg 2.4TO
This was a no brainer at this point and I've no idea why he lasted this long - perhaps people just forgot about him or didn't know about him. He was often injured, but managed a very respectable 50+gm season. He was very productive and could play both SG and SF, giving me extra depth and versatility. I'm probably going to have to use Mobley for spot minutes at PG, but really, he's still going to be better there than the majority of backup PGs other teams have. This is worth passing over a true backup point - Smith would probably start on a lot of the teams here.
Toney Douglas
2012-2013
22gms 17.1min 6.1pts (.430 .389 1.000) 2.2reb 2.6ast 1.4stl 0.0blk 1.1TO
In need of a strong guard that can come off the bench and play both the 1 and the 2, keep the offense moving, play great defense and provide a spark of scoring, I look no further than Douglas. Only here for a short stint a couple years back, Toney played great in his limited minutes. He's a guy that can and will get hot and his per-36 is quite impressive when he gets the minutes. He will be a fine complement to my bench unit and guard rotation.
2012-2013
22gms 17.1min 6.1pts (.430 .389 1.000) 2.2reb 2.6ast 1.4stl 0.0blk 1.1TO
In need of a strong guard that can come off the bench and play both the 1 and the 2, keep the offense moving, play great defense and provide a spark of scoring, I look no further than Douglas. Only here for a short stint a couple years back, Toney played great in his limited minutes. He's a guy that can and will get hot and his per-36 is quite impressive when he gets the minutes. He will be a fine complement to my bench unit and guard rotation.
So I have an All Star point guard, all world power forward, 3 and D men at the 2 and 3, a lengthy shootist center, a run and gun coach, and a strong bench contingent of scoring inside and out. I think I'm good...
Do you think we need one more? OK, I'll grab one Moore...
With my 9th selection, I choose:
Mikki Moore 2007-2008
6'11" 225# F/C - 82gms 29.1min 8.5pts (.577 .000 .736) 6.0reb 1.0ast 0.4stl 0.6blk 1.3TO
Mikki was coming off a playoff run and tallying a league leading field goal percentage, but the Kings missed the mark looking his way for starting talent. With my team's make-up, he will, however, make a fine 4th big. He fielded a respectable 4.5 win shares (playing every game of the season) along with .577 field goal percentage, even with the stone hands of legend. He can run the floor, extend his gadget arms to disrupt some shots, hit the defensive glass, hit a free throw, and pass it around when he doesn't have a dunk.
Do you think we need one more? OK, I'll grab one Moore...
With my 9th selection, I choose:
Mikki Moore 2007-2008
6'11" 225# F/C - 82gms 29.1min 8.5pts (.577 .000 .736) 6.0reb 1.0ast 0.4stl 0.6blk 1.3TO
Mikki was coming off a playoff run and tallying a league leading field goal percentage, but the Kings missed the mark looking his way for starting talent. With my team's make-up, he will, however, make a fine 4th big. He fielded a respectable 4.5 win shares (playing every game of the season) along with .577 field goal percentage, even with the stone hands of legend. He can run the floor, extend his gadget arms to disrupt some shots, hit the defensive glass, hit a free throw, and pass it around when he doesn't have a dunk.