TDOS All Time Kings Fantasy Draft II (Round 10)
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Peja Stojakovic
2003-2004
81 games 40.2min 24.2pts (.480 .433 .927) 6.3rebs 2.1ast 1.3stl 0.1blk 1.8TO
Never expected Peja to be at 5 so I feel great about this pick. Arguably the best shooter in Kings history and his best season. Career highs in Minutes, PPG, RPG and SPG along with FGM, FGA, FTM, FTA, 3PM and 3PA. These stats are the result of a more aggressive Peja, one carrying the load with an injured Webber on the bench. Peja was, in many circles if not all, a legitimate MVP candidate that year. This is the Peja I want on my team. Aggressive, confident and efficient.
2003-2004
81 games 40.2min 24.2pts (.480 .433 .927) 6.3rebs 2.1ast 1.3stl 0.1blk 1.8TO
Never expected Peja to be at 5 so I feel great about this pick. Arguably the best shooter in Kings history and his best season. Career highs in Minutes, PPG, RPG and SPG along with FGM, FGA, FTM, FTA, 3PM and 3PA. These stats are the result of a more aggressive Peja, one carrying the load with an injured Webber on the bench. Peja was, in many circles if not all, a legitimate MVP candidate that year. This is the Peja I want on my team. Aggressive, confident and efficient.
I've gone around a bunch with this pick. Ultimately, Webber isn't making it back to me, and yes, he is that much of a difference maker compared to the other bigs in King's history. All the cool kids are doing it, so...
With my 1st selection, I choose:
Chris Webber 2000-2001
6'10" 245 # Power Forward/Center
70gms 40.5min 27.1pts (.481 .071 .703) 11.1rebs 4.2ast 1.3stl 1.7blk 2.8TO
With my 1st selection, I choose:
Chris Webber 2000-2001
6'10" 245 # Power Forward/Center
70gms 40.5min 27.1pts (.481 .071 .703) 11.1rebs 4.2ast 1.3stl 1.7blk 2.8TO
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I thought about leaving Capt. writhing in utter suspense about the fate of the last Webber dangling so tantalizingly just out of his reach until he finally chewed his nails down to the knuckle and soiled himself, but I finally decided that no, I couldn't do that to him. So without further ado...
SF Panda Friend (2006-07): 70gms 37.7min 18.8pts (.440 .358 .740) 6.5reb 3.4ast 2.1stl 0.6blk 2.1TO
In the end I forego the final Webber and keep the calculator happy. In return I get to nab that rarest of pieces in Sacto history: a defensive captain. And one who can also be my #2 option and fit smoothly next to whoever my #1 turns out to be. There was no real choice as to year given that 06-07 was the only one where he was healthy and played a pretty full season. So Ron Ron it is. If nothing else my team will have an edge.
SF Panda Friend (2006-07): 70gms 37.7min 18.8pts (.440 .358 .740) 6.5reb 3.4ast 2.1stl 0.6blk 2.1TO
In the end I forego the final Webber and keep the calculator happy. In return I get to nab that rarest of pieces in Sacto history: a defensive captain. And one who can also be my #2 option and fit smoothly next to whoever my #1 turns out to be. There was no real choice as to year given that 06-07 was the only one where he was healthy and played a pretty full season. So Ron Ron it is. If nothing else my team will have an edge.
Well, I know Brickie was really kind to leave me one last shot at Webb #4...but I'm not going to take it.
Let's face it. In the Sacramento Era, the Kings have been to the playoffs ten times. One Kings coach is responsible for eight of those ten appearances - in eight total seasons with the team. Every Kings coach in Sacramento history save one has a losing record. In the Sacramento Era we have had a grand total of one - ONE - decent coach, and he was far more than just decent.
I select Coach Rick Adelman.
Do you see that text behind him? You guys don't get that. You may cry now.
Let's face it. In the Sacramento Era, the Kings have been to the playoffs ten times. One Kings coach is responsible for eight of those ten appearances - in eight total seasons with the team. Every Kings coach in Sacramento history save one has a losing record. In the Sacramento Era we have had a grand total of one - ONE - decent coach, and he was far more than just decent.
I select Coach Rick Adelman.
Do you see that text behind him? You guys don't get that. You may cry now.
Well, I know Brickie was really kind to leave me one last shot at Webb #4...but I'm not going to take it.
Let's face it. In the Sacramento Era, the Kings have been to the playoffs ten times. One Kings coach is responsible for eight of those ten appearances - in eight total seasons with the team. Every Kings coach in Sacramento history save one has a losing record. In the Sacramento Era we have had a grand total of one - ONE - decent coach, and he was far more than just decent.
I select Coach Rick Adelman.
Do you see that text behind him? You guys don't get that. You may cry now.
Let's face it. In the Sacramento Era, the Kings have been to the playoffs ten times. One Kings coach is responsible for eight of those ten appearances - in eight total seasons with the team. Every Kings coach in Sacramento history save one has a losing record. In the Sacramento Era we have had a grand total of one - ONE - decent coach, and he was far more than just decent.
I select Coach Rick Adelman.
Do you see that text behind him? You guys don't get that. You may cry now.
Of course my planned pick gets stolen from me right before my turn.
I hereby choose:
Brad Miller
2003-2004: 72 games 36.4min 14.1pts (.510. 316 .778) 10.3rebs 4.3ast 0.9stl 1.2blk 2.0TO
Good big men aren't exactly dime a dozen in Kings history and in the first edition of this draft I endend up with a Tisdale-Oldham frontcourt, definitely not your ideal combo. In his first few years in Sac Miller was actually pretty good, i would argue that that stint places him behind only Cuz, Webber and Vlade in recent Kings history (and ahead of future hall of famers such as Shelden Williams and Mikki Moore).
In 03-04 he had what was probably the most well rounded season of his career: he scored efficiently, spread the floor, moved the ball, rebounded in double digits and even managed to block more than one shot per game. He was also an all-star!
I hereby choose:
Brad Miller
2003-2004: 72 games 36.4min 14.1pts (.510. 316 .778) 10.3rebs 4.3ast 0.9stl 1.2blk 2.0TO
Good big men aren't exactly dime a dozen in Kings history and in the first edition of this draft I endend up with a Tisdale-Oldham frontcourt, definitely not your ideal combo. In his first few years in Sac Miller was actually pretty good, i would argue that that stint places him behind only Cuz, Webber and Vlade in recent Kings history (and ahead of future hall of famers such as Shelden Williams and Mikki Moore).
In 03-04 he had what was probably the most well rounded season of his career: he scored efficiently, spread the floor, moved the ball, rebounded in double digits and even managed to block more than one shot per game. He was also an all-star!
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thx.
also, for those who haven't done one of these things before, its customary courtesy to, well under the formal software send a PM to the person who is up next as a nudge. I also like to use them to taunt people.
Under the new software just start a conversation with the peeps on either side of you in the draft order and give them a little tap everytime you make a pick and they are up.
also, for those who haven't done one of these things before, its customary courtesy to, well under the formal software send a PM to the person who is up next as a nudge. I also like to use them to taunt people.
Under the new software just start a conversation with the peeps on either side of you in the draft order and give them a little tap everytime you make a pick and they are up.
I select:
Mike Bibby, PG
2004-2005 80gms 38.6min 19.6 points (0.443 0.360 0.775) 4.2rebs 6.8ast 0.4blk 1.6stls 2.5TO
Good, solid pick for me. Gives me playmaking, scoring a three-point shooting. I don't have to worry about the franchise guys since C-Webb is gone, and I'll pick again after just 2 picks!
Mike Bibby, PG
2004-2005 80gms 38.6min 19.6 points (0.443 0.360 0.775) 4.2rebs 6.8ast 0.4blk 1.6stls 2.5TO
Good, solid pick for me. Gives me playmaking, scoring a three-point shooting. I don't have to worry about the franchise guys since C-Webb is gone, and I'll pick again after just 2 picks!
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And with the first pick of the 2nd round, I go with my franchise guy:
DeMarcus Cousins, C
2013-2014 71gms 32.4min 22.7pts (.496 .000 .726) 11.7rebs 2.9ast 1.5stl 1.3blk 3.5TO
Together with Rudy and DMC, I have the possibly best duo the Kings have seen since the end of the great days of the early 2000s. I also have one of the two or three most promising young big men, as well as a proven scorer who can provide rebounding and defense at times.
DeMarcus Cousins, C
2013-2014 71gms 32.4min 22.7pts (.496 .000 .726) 11.7rebs 2.9ast 1.5stl 1.3blk 3.5TO
Together with Rudy and DMC, I have the possibly best duo the Kings have seen since the end of the great days of the early 2000s. I also have one of the two or three most promising young big men, as well as a proven scorer who can provide rebounding and defense at times.
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Time to pick the franchise guy:
DeMarcus Cousins
2013-2014 71gms 32.4min 22.7pts (.496 .000 .726) 11.7rebs 2.9ast 1.5stl 1.3blk 3.5TO
A Miller-Cousins frontcourt is enough to guarantee you an above average NBA offense: both guys can score inside, pass well,shoot the jumper and crash the offensive glass. Defense might be a problem, but at least I've got premium rebounding and some shotblocking.
DeMarcus Cousins
2013-2014 71gms 32.4min 22.7pts (.496 .000 .726) 11.7rebs 2.9ast 1.5stl 1.3blk 3.5TO
A Miller-Cousins frontcourt is enough to guarantee you an above average NBA offense: both guys can score inside, pass well,shoot the jumper and crash the offensive glass. Defense might be a problem, but at least I've got premium rebounding and some shotblocking.
Now that I've got an all-time great coach, I'm going to pick my first player - a guy who really had everything but a great coach:
Tyreke Evans
2009-2010 72gms 37.2min 20.1pts (.458 .255 .748) 5.3rebs 5.8ast 1.5stl 0.4blk 3.0TO
Not a great outside shooter, but he can rebound, he can get to the basket, he can rack up five assists per game on a team that can't shoot and can't get open...and if I don't let the final Cousins pick fall to Brick, rumor has it he's going to ban me. So there you have it.
Tyreke Evans
2009-2010 72gms 37.2min 20.1pts (.458 .255 .748) 5.3rebs 5.8ast 1.5stl 0.4blk 3.0TO
Not a great outside shooter, but he can rebound, he can get to the basket, he can rack up five assists per game on a team that can't shoot and can't get open...and if I don't let the final Cousins pick fall to Brick, rumor has it he's going to ban me. So there you have it.
Well, creating, a Reke/Mitch/Ron little man trio of brutality was almost as interesting, but yes meet the team everyone is going to be afraid of. Literally. With intimidating names like Boogie and Panda Bear, Team Flying Elbow should be a hoot:
DeMarcus Cousins
2013-2014 71gms 32.4min 22.7pts (.496 .000 .726) 11.7rebs 2.9ast 1.5stl 1.3blk 3.5TO
P.S. with apologies to the poor sap who took Doug in the first round only now to find out Mitch his star -- take it up with Capt. He screwed you, not me.
DeMarcus Cousins
2013-2014 71gms 32.4min 22.7pts (.496 .000 .726) 11.7rebs 2.9ast 1.5stl 1.3blk 3.5TO
P.S. with apologies to the poor sap who took Doug in the first round only now to find out Mitch his star -- take it up with Capt. He screwed you, not me.
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Quick question for the group: when I entered this draft, there was a provision for trades, simply that they would be allowed between participants as the draft developed and there were no other stipulations regarding it.
I didn't notice initially, until it was pointed out to me by our draft czar, but that provision was removed for simplicity when we adopted the franchise player rule.
Well, as it were I'd been strategizing as if the trade provision was intact and would really appreciate if that was still the case.
As such, is everyone all right with re-implementing the opportunity for everyone to trade as it had been in the original rules?
I didn't notice initially, until it was pointed out to me by our draft czar, but that provision was removed for simplicity when we adopted the franchise player rule.
Well, as it were I'd been strategizing as if the trade provision was intact and would really appreciate if that was still the case.
As such, is everyone all right with re-implementing the opportunity for everyone to trade as it had been in the original rules?
I'm camping out of cell service until Monday so I'll try not to hang the drafts up too much. With my 2nd pick, I choose:
Reggie Theus 1985-1986
6'6" 190# - Guard
82gms 35.6min 18.3pts (.480 .171 .827) 3.7rebs 9.6ast 1.4stl 0.2blk 4.0TO
Points, assists, versatility, and ball handling strengths make him a welcome addition to the team. 82 games played, along with a playoff berth are also both welcome additions to the team!
Reggie Theus 1985-1986
6'6" 190# - Guard
82gms 35.6min 18.3pts (.480 .171 .827) 3.7rebs 9.6ast 1.4stl 0.2blk 4.0TO
Points, assists, versatility, and ball handling strengths make him a welcome addition to the team. 82 games played, along with a playoff berth are also both welcome additions to the team!
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Samuel Dalembert
2010-2011
80 games 24.2min 8.1pts (.473 .000 .730) 8.2rebs 0.8ast 0.5stl 1.5blk 1.7TO
For pick two, I'm taking Samuel Dalembert and his lone season in Sacramento. He is one of those players you wish we just could've held on to longer.
Dalembert will bring some toughness to our frontline. No need for him to score, although he can get 8-10 a game. He is needed more for the dirty work. Rebounds, blocks, battling for loose balls, boxing out, etc. The little things that make big differences. One of the few centers in Sac history that did those things even half-way well.
2010-2011
80 games 24.2min 8.1pts (.473 .000 .730) 8.2rebs 0.8ast 0.5stl 1.5blk 1.7TO
For pick two, I'm taking Samuel Dalembert and his lone season in Sacramento. He is one of those players you wish we just could've held on to longer.
Dalembert will bring some toughness to our frontline. No need for him to score, although he can get 8-10 a game. He is needed more for the dirty work. Rebounds, blocks, battling for loose balls, boxing out, etc. The little things that make big differences. One of the few centers in Sac history that did those things even half-way well.
ok, I wanted to draw further attention to this, because it obviously makes a difference for Lowenherz (drafted Doug Christie first round, turns out Mitch Richmond is going to be his star), and could obviously have an impact on his next few draft picks.
The last time we did one of these drafts, the rules included the ability to make trades to address these sort of roster inbalances. On the other hand, trading of course also introduces the inherent inequalities of people being more active or less, unbalanced trades etc., perhaps particularly true when there is a clash between a #1 pick and the franchise player. Not quite the same thing as swapping 7th men.
Anyway, we probably need to settle the question one way or the other. Trades yes or no? And rules?
The last time we did one of these drafts, the rules included the ability to make trades to address these sort of roster inbalances. On the other hand, trading of course also introduces the inherent inequalities of people being more active or less, unbalanced trades etc., perhaps particularly true when there is a clash between a #1 pick and the franchise player. Not quite the same thing as swapping 7th men.
Anyway, we probably need to settle the question one way or the other. Trades yes or no? And rules?
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