So who can we trade this freaking pick for?

Tyreke Evans? If he ever learns how to pass, that back court would be pretty good/tall (Evans and K-Mart)...
 
It's tough. Rubio and Griffin are pretty much slotted to go either 1-2, and the Clippers and Memphis can sorely use a point guard--Memphis also needs a power forward, so it's basically zero chance to trade for either.

From then it gets a bit interesting. #3 Oklahoma City has its most pressing needs probably at shooting guard or center, but since shooting guard is the easiest position to fill when it comes to free agency don't be too surprised if they go for Hasheem Thabeet, sadly (interestingly enough, OKC has desperately been trying to find their next "big" in the draft without much success--they've drafted Mouhamed Sene, Robert Swift, and Johan Petro in the past few drafts, and now two of them are out of the team and one is chronically injured). James Harden is a possibility here too, but they already have enough scorers, so I think they'd like to get an interior defender to cover up for their fast pace team. So unless something drastic happens, I think they'd go with Thabeet, and it would be unlikely for them to trade him if they do get him.

If that's what goes on in the draft, that would be one of our worst case scenarios--first bad position in the draft, then no chance at Rubio, no Thabeet gambit...what then? Really becomes tough. Most proven player on the board would be Harden, but do we really need another wing scorer when we can fill out holes?...Not worth it. I don't like Brandon Jennings either, question the defense and whether he can fit into a team concept, but I would prefer him to Harden if it comes down to it. Hill can swat shots, but he's a role player all the way on a team where we are absolutely stocked with bigs of similar size. DeRozan--I think he's already a bust, turnover prone, extremely raw, a black hole; Evans has flaws but I think he's a bit selfish, and we don't need a player of his prototype. So I'd go for Stephen Curry--his shooting is a great asset, he's smart and competitive, and I think he can develop his passing ability--but that requires us to trade down the draft. But that's just a preliminary layout.

The Clips don't need a another PF. They already have a ton of money tied up in Randoff. Ditto the pt guard position with Davis. So, I think they might be willing to trade out of the number one spot. They would probably would like to have Thabeet because Camby is not going to be around much longer. They could use help at the three, but there aren't any good one's that warrant a pick that high. If they stay at number one, then I think pressure would force them to take Griffin.

Memphis doesn't need a point guard, unless they're sure Connely isn't their guy. They don't need a center. Griffin would be perfect for them, but he'll be gone. If they want to go big, then Hill would be the next best choice, but they could have him lower in the draft. So a trade might be doable here.

Oklahoma to me is a no brainer. They need a center and if Thabeet is there, then they take him. But, one never knows.

I would say that there's a 10% chance that Rubio slides to the fourth spot. I think there's 50% chance that a trade can be made to move up and take Rubio. And before we get outragious with our thoughts. The most I would give up is our 23 pick and our 4th pick to move up, and I'm reluctant to do that. We're rebuilding and we need as many good players as we can get. Evans, Jennings, or Lawson may end up having better careers than Rubio. My point being that we just don't know for sure. I can't tell you how many times I bet the pot in a game of high/low when I had an ace and a king showing and drew an ace.
 
Is this even a possibility???

1 Clipper - Griffin
2 Grizzlies - Thabeet
3 Thunder - Harden
4 Kings - Rubio

Grizz are enamored with Thabeet's size and have Mayo/Conley
Thunder love the way Harden fits at the 2?
Rubio's buyout looks as if the team that selects him would have to wait a year for his services(Petrie's proven he's willing to do this in year's past w/Peja)
 
I mean, I know it's Chris Wallace, but I really see absolutely no way the Grizzlies would pass on Rubio.
 
best scenario at the moment for me personally:

Rubio drops out due to buyout problems.... and that's it haha. We pick Jennings or Curry or whoever at #4 and wait 'til next year where even a #4 will win big.

eff Memphis.
 
Is this even a possibility???

1 Clipper - Griffin
2 Grizzlies - Thabeet
3 Thunder - Harden
4 Kings - Rubio

Grizz are enamored with Thabeet's size and have Mayo/Conley
Thunder love the way Harden fits at the 2?
Rubio's buyout looks as if the team that selects him would have to wait a year for his services(Petrie's proven he's willing to do this in year's past w/Peja)
Petrie is also on the record as saying that he won't pick a player who won't come over straight away!

Imagine the fan backlash if we end up with Rubio and he stays in europe. We would have no one at our games. Maloofs need a spark and they need a player that will excite the fans straight away. Thats why pick 4 was a massive blow for them.

Even if Memphis overlook Rubio for Thabeet, OKC has a manager too smart to overlook the best player available.

The only chance we have of getting Rubio is to trade up with Memphis. And while thats unlikely, the fact that Chris Wallace is their GM gives me some hope!
 
Portland thought their #4 pick wasn't going anywhere, and ended up trading down. They got Webster instead of having CHRIS PAUL on their team.
 
Portland thought their #4 pick wasn't going anywhere, and ended up trading down. They got Webster instead of having CHRIS PAUL on their team.

I'm 99% sure that whoever we get at #4 isn't Chris Paul and I'm 100% sure that Rudy Gay is leaps and bounds better than Martell Webster...
 
I'm 99% sure that whoever we get at #4 isn't Chris Paul and I'm 100% sure that Rudy Gay is leaps and bounds better than Martell Webster...

The point is Portland was 99% sure Paul wouldn't be that good either. You can't just brush off a top 5 pick just because you had your heart set on the #1 pick.
 
knicks are open to trading there first rounder for an expiring contract, i say we take that up.
Why?!

The pick is too far back for me to be interested in it. There is no one at 8 that would be worth getting that we can't get at 4.

Really between 4 and 10, the draft will be packed with PGs. We will pick the one we like most thats still on the board.
 
we need to KEEP our positioning no trading down best scenario is to trade UP not down...

knicks.. id do a kenny thomas 31st pick

for a jared jeffries and pick 8 trade

or heaven forbid swallow currys contract for their 8th pick
 
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There's nothing down that any more attractive than where we already sit.

We need an impact player. Several actually. But we really need one. If this draft turns out to be a bust and we have to return with the same group that won all of 17 games last year with nothing but some fill in guys around them...
 
Trade the pick to Minnesota for their 3 first rounders

Why would Minnesota give up two extra first rounders to move up two slots in the anything-can-happen-so-your-guy-will-probably-fall-to-you-anyway portion of the draft?
 
Trade, Trade & Trade Again

I have been saying for a while now that if we got #3 or #4, that we should trade for more picks. Everything after pick # 2 is such a crap shoot anyway. Why not take the scattershot approach and hope you hit on a few targets.

I like the idea of trading with Minny, but there is no way they give up all three of their picks for #4. If they fall in love with someone in workouts, we may be able to get their #6 and #28 picks for the #4 pick.

I also like sending KT (and probably Donte or #31) to the knicks for the #8, but with the salary restictions, we would have to take Hughes (Best case scenario with only 1 years left, but eats up most of our cap space) or Curry (verry wary of this with young bigs on our team and has 2 years left.)

This would give the kings #6, #8, #23 & #28. With the unlikely possibility of holding on to #31. Either way that is basicall 4 first round picks, even if you have to give up #23 or #28 (instead of #31) to get #8 from the Knicks.

Maybe even the bulls fall in love with someone and we can swap the #6 (from Minny) for #16 & #26. Get like 4 - 6 picks overall. We only have 8 current contracts for next year, so why not see what we can mine from the depths of this tallent pool. The post-lottery picks don't make that much anyway and if they don't work out over the next year, we can package them up for a vet or another pick in next years deep draft.

At 6 you have a shot at Evans, Holiday, Curry or Derozan.

At 8 you have most of thos guys plus Bliar, Lawson, Clark, Johnson or Flynn.

In that #23-31 Range where you will have two or three picks where there are many options like: Calathes, Lewal, Young, Collison, Mills, Ellington, Summers, Claver, Green or Casspi.

I would take my chances with 4 or 5 of these guys rather than less guys with a higher pick.
 
I have been saying for a while now that if we got #3 or #4, that we should trade for more picks. Everything after pick # 2 is such a crap shoot anyway. Why not take the scattershot approach and hope you hit on a few targets.


I could see being on board with this idea. Line up a few possiblities, and if/when Rubio doesn't drop to 4th Petrie pulls the trigger on the deal(s) and shakes things up.

It's like the old joke about the twin girls, an optimist and a pessimest, who each got a pile of horse manure for their birthdays...the optimist dived right in, saying "If there's this much manure, there must be a pony in here SOMEWHERE!" That's how I feel about this draft...

Mizzou King
 
I'm starting to like this idea now too. With no clear cut difference between who is available at 4 and 10 and think we need more bullets.
 
Sending #4 and #23 to Memphis for a 2nd round pick?

Personally I think it could be a good decision on paper, until the fan base starts asking "how many of our beloved sons are you going to trade away in the search for a winning team?" Kevin seems to be one of the most popular Kings, in a time when ticket sales are almost as low as the fanbase's morale. From a business standpoint I think it could be counterproductive in the long run, if the fans insist on being able to recognize the team they're wanting to root for.
 
Sending #4 and #23 to Memphis for a 2nd round pick?

Personally I think it could be a good decision on paper, until the fan base starts asking "how many of our beloved sons are you going to trade away in the search for a winning team?" Kevin seems to be one of the most popular Kings, in a time when ticket sales are almost as low as the fanbase's morale. From a business standpoint I think it could be counterproductive in the long run, if the fans insist on being able to recognize the team they're wanting to root for.

haha. No, trading the Kings #4 and #23 picks to Memphis for the #2 pick. This gets a higher pick, but only one, hence moving the other direction.
 
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