so is peja back tonight ?

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Bee makes it sound like Peja won't play. Neither will Brad. And maybe not Darius. :)

Sheesh, we never catch a break do we?
 
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Fillmoe

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peja needs to step up already! i never tweaked my hamstring before but in football players do it all the time and they are usually back the next game, thats about 7 days. how long has peja been out now? :(
 
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Peja's Status...

I think it plain sucks that Peja has missed six straight games, but I for one am not ready for him to step on the court only to re-injury his hamstring.

The fact is, hammy pulls are serious. And there's a difference between working out and practicing on it versus NBA basketball-ready play.

As beat up as this team is right now (with respect to injuries), it makes Peja's status even more intriguing.

Whatever the case, Pete Y and Coach A won't make anything else but a conservative decision come game time...
 
#10
It would be a great night to have him back. If he can go he should go. I'd love nothing more then to see him torch the bobcats. :D
 
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SactoGreg said:
I think it plain sucks that Peja has missed six straight games, but I for one am not ready for him to step on the court only to re-injury his hamstring.

The fact is, hammy pulls are serious. And there's a difference between working out and practicing on it versus NBA basketball-ready play.

As beat up as this team is right now (with respect to injuries), it makes Peja's status even more intriguing.

Whatever the case, Pete Y and Coach A won't make anything else but a conservative decision come game time...
Agreed. Except Pete cleared him to play a couple games back. It's now just Peja's determination of how he feels, he's the only one who knows how much discomfort he is in, and how much discomfort he can play through.
 
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I for one think that it's comical how some seem to think that Peja needs to "step it up" and get back on the court in light of what has transpired this past week. Give the guy a break...he injured his hamstring and if you have ever done that then you know that the last thing in the world you want to do is come back too soon. It's not one of those injuries that if you come back to soon you can't do any more damage to it. Do you really think that Peja does not want to get out on the court and assume once again the position of #1 scoring option? Come on!!! Sure it would be great if he were to play tonight, but I'd much rather have a healthy #16 come playoff time then one who is a little gimpy because he rushed back on the court too quickly.
 
#15
im sorry but i expect to see Peja back tonight...im sorry but he was cleared to play a couple of games back and really whats the big difference in whether he comes back TONIGHT or tomorrow night....he needs to be out there especially if we have no Brad (or Darius..ahhh)...we need at least that 3rd guy in the starting line up who knows what to do (the new guys are still new ya know) and its ridiculous for Cat and Mike to have shoulder the entire load...cuz in that case one of them has an off night--we lose

the Bobcats are an expansion team and they do have one of the worst records in the league but they play HARD every night...are almost always in the game until the end (with a chance to win even sometimes)...they don't ever really get blown out like you'd expect them too...they are better than their record implys...and i really hope the guys take them seriously
 
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I hope he comes back tonight too, but all I am saying is that the last thing I want him to do is rush it. The last thing I heard is that he is going to work out before the game and see how it feels and then he'll decide if he's going to play. And there is a difference if he comes back tonight or tomorrow night...he has been injured and if it doesn't feel right tonight then I'm sure he'll do the same thing tomorrow and test it before the game. Even if Peja does not play the Kings have much more talent than the Bobcats and should win the game.
 
#17
I hope he doesn't play. Not worth making the back or hamstring worse against the Bobcats. I would actually rest him for another 3 or 4 days. If and when he comes back, still start Corliss and gradually work him in. Dont pull a "webber of last year" and goof things up.
 

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PFFFT!! said:
I hope he doesn't play. Not worth making the back or hamstring worse against the Bobcats. I would actually rest him for another 3 or 4 days. If and when he comes back, still start Corliss and gradually work him in. Dont pull a "webber of last year" and goof things up.
When your theoretical leading scorer comes back, of course you're going to start him and give him major minutes. And this was just a tweaked hammy, not a career-threatening out for almost a year knee surgery.
 
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as long as the new guys are getting minutes and becoming acustomed to the new system i dont mind peja, brad and darius being out.... when is mike going to take a 6 game break? ...house needs to learn how to run the offense without shooting the ball everytime he touches it.
 

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House is doing a lot better as he gets used to the team, the offense, etc. When you bring in "shoot first" players, such as House and Cat, you have to be willing to accept that they are often going to "shoot first."

As far as the new guys getting used to the system goes, they need practices to do that not games. Right now, Adelman is teaching them on the fly so to speak. Luckily these are all veteran players so they can at least draw on prior experience if nothing else to play rudimentary ball.

I DO mind whenever any of our players are out, and it becomes more and more critical as we approach the final games before the playoffs. They have to learn how to play together before we start facing teams like the Mavericks, the Suns, the Spurs, etc.

Hopefully, once this road trip is over they'll be able to get some decent practices in.
 
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Bricklayer said:
When your theoretical leading scorer comes back, of course you're going to start him and give him major minutes. And this was just a tweaked hammy, not a career-threatening out for almost a year knee surgery.
1. This is Peja.
2. We started Webber and gave him major minutes disrupting the flow towards the end of the season, hence why we bombed the playoffs.
3. The longer Peja stays off the court, the more hell want to play b-ball. Happens to anyone who plays the sport. Might be a good idea for playoffs.
4. The guys have easier teams to play. Why cant we wait until Miami at least. Give Charlotte and Orlando to the new guys to strut their stuff and give Adelman more ideas.
5. Whats the rush? Reagravating a hamstring is the last thing you want.

Want more reasons?
 
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I would like everyone who is posting that has pulled a hamstring to come clean and let us in on recovery time, risks etc......

Has anyone on this board had this injury when something so big was at stake?

Come on..!!!!
 
#25
Anyone find it ironic that Peja (sprained left pinky eyelash) and Gerald (take me out coach, I may get a cramp) will probably both not play in their rematch?
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#26
So is anyone in here Peja to know how he feels, rather than bash the guy on "taking too long to recover" or "feign injury"? I believe we are 2-0 without Webber or Peja so yeah, whats the big deal? Give him time jeez.
 

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PFFFT!! said:
1. This is Peja.
2. We started Webber and gave him major minutes disrupting the flow towards the end of the season, hence why we bombed the playoffs.
3. The longer Peja stays off the court, the more hell want to play b-ball. Happens to anyone who plays the sport. Might be a good idea for playoffs.
4. The guys have easier teams to play. Why cant we wait until Miami at least. Give Charlotte and Orlando to the new guys to strut their stuff and give Adelman more ideas.
5. Whats the rush? Reagravating a hamstring is the last thing you want.

Want more reasons?
First, we have no idea how serious the injury was. You can tweak a hamstring, you can pull a hamstring, etc. There are different degress of impact, recovery, etc. Having said that:

1. So it's Peja? Does that make it different somehow? He hasn't bleeping played since Feb. 13. He needs to get back in.
2. And if the Kings keep winning without Peja, and lose when he comes back are you going to blame Peja?
3. That simply cannot be supported by facts in any way, shape or form, especially in the case of someone who said they didn't even want to be here.
4. We need our starters back and on the court getting to learn to play as a team. We don't need guys learning to play with other players who WON'T be on the court at the same time in the normal scheme of things.
5. Why the delays?

WHY is it Peja continues to draw a free pass?

He needs to be out there and he needs to get back into the mix. He could always suit up and just be there ON THE BENCH as an indication that he realizes how important his return AND increased performance is to this team.

I am not angry at Peja but I am certainly getting totally fed up with all the excuses some people are making on his behalf. Especially when those same people were so quick to crucify someone else whenever he even blinked wrong.

Hypocrisy is a funny thing, isn't it?
 
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VF21 said:
First, we have no idea how serious the injury was. You can tweak a hamstring, you can pull a hamstring, etc. There are different degress of impact, recovery, etc. Having said that:

1. So it's Peja? Does that make it different somehow? He hasn't bleeping played since Feb. 13. He needs to get back in.
2. And if the Kings keep winning without Peja, and lose when he comes back are you going to blame Peja?
3. That simply cannot be supported by facts in any way, shape or form, especially in the case of someone who said they didn't even want to be here.
4. We need our starters back and on the court getting to learn to play as a team. We don't need guys learning to play with other players who WON'T be on the court at the same time in the normal scheme of things.
5. Why the delays?

WHY is it Peja continues to draw a free pass?

He needs to be out there and he needs to get back into the mix. He could always suit up and just be there ON THE BENCH as an indication that he realizes how important his return AND increased performance is to this team.

I am not angry at Peja but I am certainly getting totally fed up with all the excuses some people are making on his behalf. Especially when those same people were so quick to crucify someone else whenever he even blinked wrong.

Hypocrisy is a funny thing, isn't it?
VF, for some reason, Petrie decided on Peja. For obvious reason, Petrie knows more than both of us combined. For some reason hes being pampered back into playing. Petrie already drew up Pejas ultimatum: "Come back when your ready and sure you are able to play up to your ability. That will determine what happens to you and your contract in the offseason". So again, Im not rushing this, he can come back when ready. I actually enjoy watching the Kings now without Webber or Peja, but yes, I know eventually we will need Peja in the line up. But I think we all live for the present, not the past or future. So bring on Corliss, Thomas, and Skinner today :)

Oh, one more thing. Peja has always been my favorite King. And Webber, I never criticized him as hard as others have. My only complaint about Webber was his injuries coming at bad times throughout the years. I'm mostly known here for disliking DC (whos gone) and Adelman. Thats about the extent of it. ;)
 
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Daniela said:
I would like everyone who is posting that has pulled a hamstring to come clean and let us in on recovery time, risks etc......

Has anyone on this board had this injury when something so big was at stake?

Come on..!!!!
hamstring pull recovery times are painfully long (happen more often if you are injured before, and are favoring one side of your body over the other). That being said, recovery periods depend on the severity of the pull. Very ambiguous.
 
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Do you realize even with us playing like "crap" to end the season, we still beat the Mavs, 4-1 and they were a 50 win team and we still took the "best" regular season team in the West to 7 games only to lose by 2 points on the road even when our "best" regular season player shot 35% from the field. Do you remember that Brad got hurt in the AS game, Bobby got hurt and we had a tough end of the season schedule? I guess you forgot all this stuff. Yeah you can blame Webber for the end of the season problems, all of them, cause they were all his fault.