I honestly don't even see how it's even debatable to add someone like SAR's talent for the ridiculously low price of $29 million. Adding talent for a reasonable price is always always always a good thing, it doesn't mire you mediocrity. Even if the player isn't a good fit you can move him elsewhere and you're the better for it. It's not like SAR is precluding the addition of a player that is more talented, it's either him or a lesser player.
The only risk is that his knee will fall off.
But the notion that adding Shareef Abdur-Rahim is somehow going to make the Kings worse is downright bizarre.
The only risk is that his knee will fall off.
But the notion that adding Shareef Abdur-Rahim is somehow going to make the Kings worse is downright bizarre.
Only 5 can play on the court at the same time. When SAR (who may be less of a player then Thomas) is in there, which will be often. We will have an undersized pf (who really is a sf) who cannot play defense, has never won on the professional lvl, and cannot rebound. What a great combination with our soon to be maxed out sf.
If this signing become official, it send a loud message to me, as a fan, that the Kings are not about defense and they dont intend to be anytime in the near future.
If this signing become official, it send a loud message to me, as a fan, that the Kings are not about defense and they dont intend to be anytime in the near future.
First off, he's a power forward, he's a 6'9" POST PLAYER who can't shoot from outside and can't slash to the baskest. The whole point of signing SAR is to give the Kings a post presence that they haven't had since Webber was healthy. Can't rebound???? Are you serious or do you not bother to look at stats?
And wow, if the Kings DON'T make this signing and they have the opportunity it shows they're not serious about improving the team. Luckily Geoff Petrie's the general manager and he's SANE.
And wow, if the Kings DON'T make this signing and they have the opportunity it shows they're not serious about improving the team. Luckily Geoff Petrie's the general manager and he's SANE.
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I agree with yoda on the defense thing.... If lack of defense has caused major problems in ur organization and u sign a player like SAR, u have no intention on improving on defense. If this signing goes through, then I will lose some trust in our organization... They repeatidly stated that defense, rebounding, size, and athletism were high on their priority list this offseason and signing SAR would be the total opposite.... I know he could be a part of another trade, but who knows what happens.... What if something happens and drastically drops his trade value and were stuck with him.....
Basically, I don't see how SAR fills our needs.... Right now it seems that we took the backup pg and starting sg positions more seriously then the position that was so highly spoken off, the PF position.
Basically, I don't see how SAR fills our needs.... Right now it seems that we took the backup pg and starting sg positions more seriously then the position that was so highly spoken off, the PF position.
I am not belittling you any any sense do not do so to me.
He averages 8 rebounds a game for his career. Stats aside and watching him, he is not a strong guy or a leaper. Nothing about him says he is a good rebounder. He is a scorer, always has been. Whatever the price we do not need more one dimensional players.
He averages 8 rebounds a game for his career. Stats aside and watching him, he is not a strong guy or a leaper. Nothing about him says he is a good rebounder. He is a scorer, always has been. Whatever the price we do not need more one dimensional players.
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Signing one person like SAR does not mean the front office has abandoned the theory of becoming more defensive. Has SAR lead everyone to forget about Hart, Garcia, Sampson, and Wells? These are athletic, defensive players. SAR is too good of an offensive talent to pass up. To me, passing on SAR just because he isn't the IDEAL PF we all hope for, would be ludicrous, and an unwise business move.
You're right, I apologize.
There aren't very many players who can average 8 or more rebounds a night, and SAR is one of them. He's not exactly a rebounding machine, but I would characterize him as a "good" rebounder. He's also a decent defender even though some on this board has characterized him as extremely soft. He's also multidimensional and gives the Kings the post presence they so badly need.
I understand your concerns about defense, I just think that acquiring a defensive specialist at the 4 position is just not realistic since a player like that is not available, nor do I think that it would solve all of the team's problems.
Players of Shareef Abdur-Rahim's talent don't come available for $29 million very often. Even if his defense isn't as good as we'd all like, the offseason is about making the Kings better, which he does.
There aren't very many players who can average 8 or more rebounds a night, and SAR is one of them. He's not exactly a rebounding machine, but I would characterize him as a "good" rebounder. He's also a decent defender even though some on this board has characterized him as extremely soft. He's also multidimensional and gives the Kings the post presence they so badly need.
I understand your concerns about defense, I just think that acquiring a defensive specialist at the 4 position is just not realistic since a player like that is not available, nor do I think that it would solve all of the team's problems.
Players of Shareef Abdur-Rahim's talent don't come available for $29 million very often. Even if his defense isn't as good as we'd all like, the offseason is about making the Kings better, which he does.
I believe that the Kings have been pretty genuine about wanting to upgrade the defense on the team and they have realized that they have to in order to get to the promised land. However, guys that fit the description of what the team needs are not a dime a dozen. Those types of players who can rebound, defend, are athletic and have size are so hard to come by that the only way to acquire someone like that is to give up something valuable in return and I don't think that they are willing to give up Peja, Brad or Mike. Therefore, if it is impossible to acquire that type of player due to self imposed restrictions then you have to go out and get the best player available that fills a need. The 4 spot is a huge need for this team and SAR I believe is the best they can do without giving up one of the three core members. Assuming that SAR becomes a member of the Kings they will have done a fantastic job this offseason. Would I have liked to see someone other than SAR? Of course! But, those players (KG, Chandler, Brand, etc) will command at least one of the three core and I don't think that they want to give one of them up when they can get someone with SAR's abilities while keeping the core together...at least for one more year.
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You can't always start from the top. I'd rather build a solid defensive bench at this point and let the "soft" starters take the embarrassment they sufferred last year and drop a pair, all the while learning how to show some effort on "D". All we need is a defensive influence/leader similar to Christie and wham, defensive team. (<<<<overly simplified)
