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Bricklayer said:
who did u want us to get? an all star power forward right out of the draft? we gotta get a power forward through trades. thats the only way we get a solid pf.
Sacramento selects Francisco Garcia
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who did u want us to get? an all star power forward right out of the draft? we gotta get a power forward through trades. thats the only way we get a solid pf.
Bricklayer said:
Disagree, man. He's Christie w/ a J. Garcia is a competitor too, he's no Peja clone. At #23 this is a GREAT pick. Petrie has been trying to hit home runs at these spots for years, and striking out. About time he connected for a double. Garcia will be a solid NBA starter at a position we have some serious questions about. I don't know what more you could want.
$$KingsEDH$$
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http://nbadraft.net/profiles/franciscogarcia.asp
NBA comparison: Reggie Miller
Strengths: The Latin Assassin can fill it up. Garcia has range on his 3 and gets it off quickly and often. Going into Louisville he had a reputation as a shooter but has added a number of dimensions to his game. He has excellent court vision. His work ethic and passion for the game brings an added edge to a team that won 18 games in a row. His heart is as big as they come as he proved with his back to back 24 point games in wins over Seton Hall and #1 Florida in the wake of his brother's passing. Garcia's defense has dramatically improved sincehe played prep school at Winchendon, as he led his team in blocked shots as a 2 guard last season.
Weaknesses: The knock on Garcia is that he is too skinny and weak. Rumor around NYC has people talking that Garcia has added 15 lbs of muscle since the season ended. Athletically Garcia isn't going to fly in and dunk you anyone but with his long body he can cover more ground than you would think. His on ball defense needs to improve to become a great defender at the next level. His in between game from 10-15 feet needs to get better because teams will take away his 3 in the NBA and he isn't able to get all the way to the hole to finish.
Notes: He holds Louisville University records in single game assists with 15 and single game 3 pointers made with 8.
NBA comparison: Reggie Miller
Strengths: The Latin Assassin can fill it up. Garcia has range on his 3 and gets it off quickly and often. Going into Louisville he had a reputation as a shooter but has added a number of dimensions to his game. He has excellent court vision. His work ethic and passion for the game brings an added edge to a team that won 18 games in a row. His heart is as big as they come as he proved with his back to back 24 point games in wins over Seton Hall and #1 Florida in the wake of his brother's passing. Garcia's defense has dramatically improved sincehe played prep school at Winchendon, as he led his team in blocked shots as a 2 guard last season.
Weaknesses: The knock on Garcia is that he is too skinny and weak. Rumor around NYC has people talking that Garcia has added 15 lbs of muscle since the season ended. Athletically Garcia isn't going to fly in and dunk you anyone but with his long body he can cover more ground than you would think. His on ball defense needs to improve to become a great defender at the next level. His in between game from 10-15 feet needs to get better because teams will take away his 3 in the NBA and he isn't able to get all the way to the hole to finish.
Notes: He holds Louisville University records in single game assists with 15 and single game 3 pointers made with 8.
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Fillmoe
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PFFFT!!
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The San Francisco Chronicle NAILED IT. See pick #23.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/28/SPGPODFP411.DTL
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/28/SPGPODFP411.DTL
i think its a good pick
im not convinced about Taft, Simeon, or Lee as the answer to our rebounding/toughness problems
Garcia could and hopefull will be a starter next year. I think K Mart is a broken dream. Hopefully Mo Evens stays. We need to go after Chandler if the Bulls balk at all. They have their hands full with resigning their young players.
im not convinced about Taft, Simeon, or Lee as the answer to our rebounding/toughness problems
Garcia could and hopefull will be a starter next year. I think K Mart is a broken dream. Hopefully Mo Evens stays. We need to go after Chandler if the Bulls balk at all. They have their hands full with resigning their young players.
Diabeticwonder
Bench
Much easier to get a starting PF through free agency or through a trade than trying to get a starting 2 guard. Of all the positions on the court I think that the 2 guard is the easiest position for a rookie to succeed in much like you see more rookie running backs succeed in the NFL than any other position.
Andriod_KiNg
Starter
underated Defensive player , GREAT Passer, and can score from anywhere... we just found our G of the future... i expect him to be the starter from day 1 and to put up great numbers... glad we got it...
PFFFT!!
Starter
Check this article out. Got it out of About.com
Sure Thing: Smart, hard-working players without obvious physical limitations don't often flop in the NBA. So while we can all scrutinize Francisco Garcia's inconsistent shot, slight frame and advanced age (will turn 24 on Dec. 31) for a rookie, there isn't a safer bet to become a consistent contributor for years to come. Garcia will never be one to anchor an offense from the off-guard position so he won't get a look in the Round One until late. But he's exactly the kind of cerebral facilitator on offense and wiry nuisance on defense that established teams love to bring off the bench and give starter's minutes to. In that respect, he should have a similar pro career to Craig Ehlo.
Sure Thing: Smart, hard-working players without obvious physical limitations don't often flop in the NBA. So while we can all scrutinize Francisco Garcia's inconsistent shot, slight frame and advanced age (will turn 24 on Dec. 31) for a rookie, there isn't a safer bet to become a consistent contributor for years to come. Garcia will never be one to anchor an offense from the off-guard position so he won't get a look in the Round One until late. But he's exactly the kind of cerebral facilitator on offense and wiry nuisance on defense that established teams love to bring off the bench and give starter's minutes to. In that respect, he should have a similar pro career to Craig Ehlo.
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Fillmoe
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im sure geoff has something under his sleeve.....
captain bill
All-Star
Reading up on him, he sounds like a tougher version of Peja, with not quite as good a shot. He's an amazing 3-pt shooter, great in a catch-and-shoot situation, and a pretty good passer- an exact fit for our system as it has been run. He's got a long wingspan and it would be assumed he can defend, but it's agreed that he underperforms and needs to add more muscle. He'll probably turn into a decent defender, but a terribly underrated one- just like Peja, except that I believe he will be a better defender than Peja. He can rebound, not a prolific rebounder but he can rebound, and hit his free throws. He does not, however, have an inside game. Driving to the lane, going into coverage is not his forte. He will be tested hard in the NBA, and it's questionable that he will answer. I like him because he has mental toughness and could turn into a phenomenal player. I dislike him because, while he may have some defensive skills, he is not any large step towards patching up our defense as a whole. He won't significantly change the attitude of this team. Unless more moves are made to get better defenders, his defensive skills, whatever they may be, will be lost in the shuffle and the Kings will continue to be a great shooting team with miserable defense.
Good: Rebounding and shooting
Bad: Defense
I'm gonna say wait and see, I think it's good if he starts and can step up, allowing us to go after a PF or C to make this team better. Otherwise, we do what we've been doing this year and the last and not go anywhere.
Good: Rebounding and shooting
Bad: Defense
I'm gonna say wait and see, I think it's good if he starts and can step up, allowing us to go after a PF or C to make this team better. Otherwise, we do what we've been doing this year and the last and not go anywhere.
PFFFT!!
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Guys, hes NOT expected to be a great athlete at the 2 spot for crying out loud. If you wanted a great athlete, the PF and SF is where you want them at. Unfortunately the SF position for us is a wash with Peja. However Peja is a deadeye shooter and good passer at least so he makes up for it somewhat :\
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dagiantsrule15
Prospect
kinda pissed the kings didnt go for a post guy, and this pick kinda troubles me coz we already have kevin martin and maurice evans if we resign him. i see we could go after a 2 as a need, but this could mean the end of the road for mo evans as a king. i think francisco is a good player, u cant question his heart (freshman year, bro murdered, next day upset #1 team in nation) and talent. could be a good fit, but right now im kinda skeptic wher he'll fit in
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Kevin Martin and Garcia only resemble eachother in appearence and not much else. Martin will be a great slasher and dunker, Garcia is a shooter. Special K has a lot of work to do on his shooting but I doubt the Kings just give up on him. He has too much of an upside. At least he could be tradeable now.
Evenstar
Starter
more info for those ( like me 
) who have no idea who he is
http://aol.nba.com/draft2005/profiles/FranciscoGarcia.html
Career Highlights: Honored on the NABC All-America Second team and was named to the John R. Wooden All-America team as a junior. Earned First Team All-Conference USA honors as a senior, was a member of the Conference USA All-Decade team and was the USBWA District 4 Player of the Year. Among Louisville’s career leaders in three-point goals (180, fourth), free throw percentage (.849, third), blocked shots (134, eighth), and scoring (1,413, 23rd). Double-figure scorer on 73 occasions in his career, topping the 20-point mark 22 times. Earned a silver medal in the 2003 Pan American Games while playing on the national team for his native country of the Dominican Republic. Twice named to the Athletic Director’s Honor Roll (3.0 or better GPA).
Junior (2004-05): Averaged a team-leading 15.7 points, 4.2 rebounds, 3.9 assists and 1.7 steals. Scored over 20 points in three of Louisville’s five NCAA Tournament games, when he averaged 17.6 points and 4.0 assists. A member of the NCAA Albuquerque Region All-Region team and the Conference USA All-Tournament team. Scored a career-high 29 points twice, against Morehead State and Tennessee State. National Player of the Week by ESPN.com when he produced 19 points, eight rebounds and a career-high five steals at Florida. Hit a game-winning three-pointer at Marquette with 2.6 seconds remaining. His 150 free throws were the sixth-most ever in a single season at Louisville and his 65 steals were the eighth-highest total. Finalist for the John R. Wooden Award National Player of the Year honor.
Sophomore (2003-04): Averaged a team-leading 16.4 points and also led the team with 131 total assists. Handed out a school-record 15 assists against Murray State, adding 17 points and seven rebounds in the game. Scored a season-best 28 points against Cincinnati in the C-USA Tournament, hitting 10-of-14 shots from the field. Earned First Team All-Conference USA honors and was an all-district selection by the NABC and USBWA.
Freshman (2002-03): Honored as the Conference USA Freshman of the Year when he averaged 11.2 points, ranking second on the team. Started 15 games. Buried a career-high eight three-point goals against Cincinnati while scoring a season-high 24 points, a mark he also reached against Marquette. Honored on the Conference USA All-Tournament team when he averaged a team-leading 14.7 points and four assists. Strengths: Versatile and talented offensive performer who plays with passion and has a good overall feel for the game. Has excellent range on his jumpshot. Personal: Majoring in communications. Moved to the United States prior to his sophomore year in high school.
) who have no idea who he ishttp://aol.nba.com/draft2005/profiles/FranciscoGarcia.html
Career Highlights: Honored on the NABC All-America Second team and was named to the John R. Wooden All-America team as a junior. Earned First Team All-Conference USA honors as a senior, was a member of the Conference USA All-Decade team and was the USBWA District 4 Player of the Year. Among Louisville’s career leaders in three-point goals (180, fourth), free throw percentage (.849, third), blocked shots (134, eighth), and scoring (1,413, 23rd). Double-figure scorer on 73 occasions in his career, topping the 20-point mark 22 times. Earned a silver medal in the 2003 Pan American Games while playing on the national team for his native country of the Dominican Republic. Twice named to the Athletic Director’s Honor Roll (3.0 or better GPA).
Junior (2004-05): Averaged a team-leading 15.7 points, 4.2 rebounds, 3.9 assists and 1.7 steals. Scored over 20 points in three of Louisville’s five NCAA Tournament games, when he averaged 17.6 points and 4.0 assists. A member of the NCAA Albuquerque Region All-Region team and the Conference USA All-Tournament team. Scored a career-high 29 points twice, against Morehead State and Tennessee State. National Player of the Week by ESPN.com when he produced 19 points, eight rebounds and a career-high five steals at Florida. Hit a game-winning three-pointer at Marquette with 2.6 seconds remaining. His 150 free throws were the sixth-most ever in a single season at Louisville and his 65 steals were the eighth-highest total. Finalist for the John R. Wooden Award National Player of the Year honor.
Sophomore (2003-04): Averaged a team-leading 16.4 points and also led the team with 131 total assists. Handed out a school-record 15 assists against Murray State, adding 17 points and seven rebounds in the game. Scored a season-best 28 points against Cincinnati in the C-USA Tournament, hitting 10-of-14 shots from the field. Earned First Team All-Conference USA honors and was an all-district selection by the NABC and USBWA.
Freshman (2002-03): Honored as the Conference USA Freshman of the Year when he averaged 11.2 points, ranking second on the team. Started 15 games. Buried a career-high eight three-point goals against Cincinnati while scoring a season-high 24 points, a mark he also reached against Marquette. Honored on the Conference USA All-Tournament team when he averaged a team-leading 14.7 points and four assists. Strengths: Versatile and talented offensive performer who plays with passion and has a good overall feel for the game. Has excellent range on his jumpshot. Personal: Majoring in communications. Moved to the United States prior to his sophomore year in high school.
kennadog
Dog On It!
I see the About.com and NBAdraft.com takes above...here's a couple more:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=2069535&prov=st&type=lgns
POSITIVES: Garcia has excellent shooting mechanics. When he's rolling, he can carry a team with his outside shooting. He also is tougher than he looks with his lean body. He doesn't mind taking the ball to the basket strong and drawing fouls to get his points. Garcia has already had some adversity in his life, being raised in New York in a hardscrabble environment. He is not likely to back down the first time things don't go his way.
SHORTCOMINGS: Like Reggie Miller and Tayshaun Prince before him, Garcia will always have to answer skeptics' questions about his wiry, thin frame. There's no question NBA small forwards will try to take him into the post to see how he reacts to an elbow here, a leaning torso there. Most of Garcia's questions as a rookie will be as to who he will defend. If he answers those affirmatively, he should have a long career.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/d05/tracker/player?playerId=18722
Similarities: Joe Johnson
Positives: Garcia's a gifted scorer with a feathery shooting touch. He's long, versatile and has a good feel for the basketball. He's a fabulous shot blocker for a swingman and also is a dead-eye from the free-throw line. Could be a point-forward type in the pros thanks to a solid handle and nice court vision.
Negatives: Garcia started the season off fantastically, but hit a few potholes the last month of the season. In other words, he has a tendency to totally disappear. Scouts believe his natural position is the 3, but his unwillingness to mix it up at all in the paint means he probably plays the 2 in the pros. He still needs to get stronger and work on shooting off the dribble. He's just an average athlete and struggles against stronger or more athletic competition.
Summary: Garcia was an inconsistent college player, but so far his workouts have gone great. He has great size and shooting touch for the position and will attract a team in need of a shooter.
I really don't think this is such a bad pick at #23. I expect other needs to be addressed thru FA and trades.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=2069535&prov=st&type=lgns
POSITIVES: Garcia has excellent shooting mechanics. When he's rolling, he can carry a team with his outside shooting. He also is tougher than he looks with his lean body. He doesn't mind taking the ball to the basket strong and drawing fouls to get his points. Garcia has already had some adversity in his life, being raised in New York in a hardscrabble environment. He is not likely to back down the first time things don't go his way.
SHORTCOMINGS: Like Reggie Miller and Tayshaun Prince before him, Garcia will always have to answer skeptics' questions about his wiry, thin frame. There's no question NBA small forwards will try to take him into the post to see how he reacts to an elbow here, a leaning torso there. Most of Garcia's questions as a rookie will be as to who he will defend. If he answers those affirmatively, he should have a long career.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/d05/tracker/player?playerId=18722
Similarities: Joe Johnson
Positives: Garcia's a gifted scorer with a feathery shooting touch. He's long, versatile and has a good feel for the basketball. He's a fabulous shot blocker for a swingman and also is a dead-eye from the free-throw line. Could be a point-forward type in the pros thanks to a solid handle and nice court vision.
Negatives: Garcia started the season off fantastically, but hit a few potholes the last month of the season. In other words, he has a tendency to totally disappear. Scouts believe his natural position is the 3, but his unwillingness to mix it up at all in the paint means he probably plays the 2 in the pros. He still needs to get stronger and work on shooting off the dribble. He's just an average athlete and struggles against stronger or more athletic competition.
Summary: Garcia was an inconsistent college player, but so far his workouts have gone great. He has great size and shooting touch for the position and will attract a team in need of a shooter.
I really don't think this is such a bad pick at #23. I expect other needs to be addressed thru FA and trades.
acisking
Bench
POST BY DAGIANTSRULE15
"kinda pissed the kings didnt go for a post guy, and this pick kinda troubles me coz we already have kevin martin and maurice evans if we resign him. i see we could go after a 2 as a need, but this could mean the end of the road for mo evans as a king. i think francisco is a good player, u cant question his heart (freshman year, bro murdered, next day upset #1 team in nation) and talent. could be a good fit, but right now im kinda skeptic wher he'll fit in"
^^^yea i do agree that a pf/c is the primary concern but there are no surefire bets like sean mays or ike available at the 23rd pick....considering what the alternatives were it really isn't a bad thing that Petrie chose to bolster one of our weakest postitions....face it - whether you like martin and evans or not - they simply aren't the type of 2s that will win games....at the very least this puts all of the focus for offseason moves on improving the pf/c spots
"kinda pissed the kings didnt go for a post guy, and this pick kinda troubles me coz we already have kevin martin and maurice evans if we resign him. i see we could go after a 2 as a need, but this could mean the end of the road for mo evans as a king. i think francisco is a good player, u cant question his heart (freshman year, bro murdered, next day upset #1 team in nation) and talent. could be a good fit, but right now im kinda skeptic wher he'll fit in"
^^^yea i do agree that a pf/c is the primary concern but there are no surefire bets like sean mays or ike available at the 23rd pick....considering what the alternatives were it really isn't a bad thing that Petrie chose to bolster one of our weakest postitions....face it - whether you like martin and evans or not - they simply aren't the type of 2s that will win games....at the very least this puts all of the focus for offseason moves on improving the pf/c spots
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iheartBrad
All-Star
dagiantsrule15 said:
He could get packaged to get that "post guy" that you are talking about...you never know ya know...
As for Garcia, I don't know a lot about the kid...he is who I thought we'd pick up at the 23rd slot...I like the pick and I think that he will fit in well with our current team...I'm excited to see the kid play more
A quote from draftexpress that I found interesting about Garcia:
Very coachable. A team player. Not afraid to take big shots. Huge heart, that can't be stressed enough. Just a very unique player in terms of his versatility. \
I really like how they say that he is very versatile...it's gonna be an interesting summer
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