Sac/Miami/Orlando Trade

vfettke

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ok... this is my first time starting a thread with a trade scenario. its just an idea, and its extremely possible that its a stupid one. but there might be room for improvement. the determining factor for this to work is that Orlando signs Rashard Lewis and can't afford Darko, so they sign and trade him to us, possibly for too much, but it might be worth the risk. Also, Ariza could come to us with Wright going to Orlando. Maybe instead of Ariza we try to nab one of Orlando's point guards, too

Sac Out:
Bibby
Artest
Thomas

Sac In:
Wright
Williams
Milicic (S&T at $8-10 mil)

Miami Out:
Haslem
Williams
Wright

Miami In:
Artest
Thomas
Ariza

Orlando Out:
Milicic (S&T at $8-10 mil)
Ariza

Orlando In:
Bibby
Haslem

Why Sac does it: Bibby and his horrible contract are gone. Artest and his drama are gone. KT is gone. It's possible that we overpay Darko, but we all know what happens if he develops consistency. We also get Ariza or Wright, a talented youngster. Although we have plenty of wing players like these two, whichever we get could be trade bait, even. And, Williams contract expires next year. Plus, we swindle Miami into taking KT off our hands.

Why Sac doesn't do it: our PG position becomes really weak unless JWill1 can bring his A game, which might not be enough. We might overpay Darko, and we all know what happens if he DOESNT develop some consistency.

Why Miami does it: Artest! On his best days Artest is one of the league's top talents at one of the cheapest prices. The one problem is that he's crazy. But, he'll have Shaq, Wade, and Riley to keep him in line. With Artest, who has a lot of drive, the become contenders again. They get a good youngster in Ariza, and also get rid of Williams, who has been less than spectacular for them. Also, they get rid of Haslem, who IMO, is their Kenny Thomas

Why Miami doesn't do it: They get rid of their Kenny Thomas, but take OUR Kenny Thomas. They also lose major depth at PG. Although this might not be a huge problem since they can run the offense through D-Wade

Why Orlando does it: Bibby, Lewis, and Howard makes them a powerhouse in the East, with them possibly being contenders within the next couple years.

Why Orlando doesn't do it: They're stuck with Haslem's contract. Although, he'll get the job done, and at least he's not Kenny Thomas. They also lose a couple of youngsters, one of whom has the potential to be a great big man. But do you need someone with the potential to be a great big man when you've got Dwight Howard?
 
put Jameer Nelson in to Miami and you got a good deal. Plus I think you need a bit more salary out of Orlando to make that work anyway.
 
No way Orlando gives three of thier young players for bibby.
depends on what they wanna do. do they wait for the young pieces to mature and develop? if that's the plan then my whole scenario is scrapped. because this trade is all based on Orlando letting Darko go so they can sign Rashard Lewis to some fairly big money. signing Lewis pretty much says that they want to win/contend now. which they do. this young team made it to the playoffs but was swept. Howard needs more time to develop, but he also needs pieces around him that can help as well. adding Lewis, then Bibby, make that happen
 
That would leave us with no PGs

Silly piksi. We'd still have Ronnie Price and Quincy Douby. And Salmons can bring the ball up the court.

EDIT: And besides, isn't next year's draft supposed to be full of PGs?
 
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That would leave us with no PGs
we'd get williams back

but that trade still isnt good enough for the kings imho

hopefully their are numerous draft picks and what not...Mia sneaks out like bandits and so does orlando to some extent
 
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we'd get williams back

but that trade still isnt good enough for the kings imho

hopefully their are numerous draft picks and what not...Mia sneaks out like bandits and so does orlando to some extent
we get rid of three of our worst contracts. doing this kicks off the rebuild big time. the only way it could be better from that perspective is if we traded Miller too. we also get a young, talented, cheap SF, who is also an expiring, in case he doesnt work out. we get Williams, whose contract is gone next year. we get Darko, the young, shot blocking, rebounding big guy we need. put him at PF next to Hawes and no one will be bitching at Petrie about this year's draft anymore
 
the determining factor for this to work is that Orlando signs Rashard Lewis and can't afford Darko, so they sign and trade him to us

If Orlando can't afford Darko at $8-10M after signing Rashard, how in the world are they supposed to afford Bibby ($13.5M) AND Haslem ($6M)?

Sac Out:
Bibby
Artest
Thomas

Sac In:
Wright
Williams
Milicic (S&T at $8-10 mil)
Salaries don't quite match, either. We're sending out $28M worth of contracts and getting $21M max (with Darko at $10M) back.

yes it does. ya know that 25% salary cap rule? do the math

28,000,000 x .75 = 21,000,000

Actually, the rule is that a team can acquire 125% of the salary they send out, plus $100K. Multiplying the larger number by 0.75 (not the rule) is not the same as multiplying the smaller number by 1.25 (the rule). Do the math.

21,000,000 x 1.25 = 26,250,000 + 100,000 = 26,350,000.

So, as I said, the salaries don't quite match up.

A max deal for Rashard is ludicrous. If the offseason is going to go like this, the KT contract will look like a bargain by the time it's in its final year.

This signing almost makes Billy Donovan's back-out look smart.

I agree with Amory. Darko is young and he's got time to get better. I think the Kings should give him a chance. I think Darko is just frustrated right now because he never got that many minutes to prove himself.

The Kings don't really look to be a good fit for Darko - there are three veteran frontcourt players (Brad, Kenny, Shareef) demanding minutes, a promising rookie C in Hawes, and of course Kingsfans' own darling Justin Williams. Darko may be resigned to signing an MLE contract for one or two years, after which he could get his big deal by either re-signing or finding a team with cap space, but in the meantime he's going to want to increase his value by getting PT, which will be scarce here unless there's a major roster shake-up. Seems like there might be a good deal of frontcourt time available in Houston, though...
 
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Salaries don't quite match, either. We're sending out $28M worth of contracts and getting $21M max (with Darko at $10M) back.
yes it does. ya know that 25% salary cap rule? do the math

28,000,000 x .75 = 21,000,000

although, since they are signing Lewis for sure now for about $15 million a year, i think they have to give up Arroyo to make this work
 
I don't see why we would want to pay 8-10million for a game that doesnt even really seem interested in basketball, and hasnt even come remotely close to living up to his potential, or that potential contract. Just because the guy can block a shot or two hes worth a ton? Also I dont have any interest in JWill coming back.
 
Artest for NY's MLE

Why don't we just trade artest for New York's MLE + filler?

I mean can't we use their midlevel and (some of) our midlevel to land Darko or Mo Williams?

Call it what you will: S&T
 
I don't see why we would want to pay 8-10million for a game that doesnt even really seem interested in basketball, and hasnt even come remotely close to living up to his potential, or that potential contract. Just because the guy can block a shot or two hes worth a ton? Also I dont have any interest in JWill coming back.

I agree, I just don't see what is so great about Darko Milicic. I know we need a defensive prescence, and he can block shots, but that is ALL he can do. He is a poor rebounder and an awful offensive player. He's young so there is hope for improvement, but he isn't reported to have the work ethic to make those improvements. I'll pass.
 
Actually, the rule is that a team can acquire 125% of the salary they send out, plus $100K. Multiplying the larger number by 0.75 (not the rule) is not the same as multiplying the smaller number by 1.25 (the rule). Do the math.

21,000,000 x 1.25 = 26,250,000 + 100,000 = 26,350,000.

So, as I said, the salaries don't quite match up.
that's odd seeing as how i put this trade through the ESPN trade machine and it worked just fine. i put in Dwight Howard because adding his contract to Darko's now expired one equals 10 million.
 
that's odd seeing as how i put this trade through the ESPN trade machine and it worked just fine. i put in Dwight Howard because adding his contract to Darko's now expired one equals 10 million.

When you post your next trade proposal, just add a link to your trade proposal on either EPN or realGM's trade checker.

:)

Other than that, your trade proposal was exactly what I personally like to see. Pros and cons AND why each team might do it. You brought it and I like it!

:D
 
That still doesn't take into account the $15 million or so for Rashard Lewis. They had enough cap room to do this until that was agreed to...
does Lewis put them over the cap?

either way... they can just add another smaller contract to it to make everything work. maybe Arroyo to us and they can have Wright
 
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