SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
VF21 said:
I didn't say that Webb will absolutely, positively, say something negative about the trade did I? NO. I'm just saying that it could, just maybe get interesting.
Rick Adelman's reaction to the trade
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I didn't say that Webb will absolutely, positively, say something negative about the trade did I? NO. I'm just saying that it could, just maybe get interesting.
Stojakovic
Bench
VF21 said:
The shots he usually takes with someone in his face, he'll take without somebody in his face...and instead of him shooting, let's say 16 times per game, now he may shoot 13-14 times.
The fact that he will not shoot as much IS a bad thing.
OptimusRhyme
Jive Turkey
Maybe this will free up some room to Re-sign Mo Evans next year.!!!
Optimus - More importantly than Mo Evans, IMHO, it might free up salary for Pedja or Bobby. The possibilities have just multiplied.
Stojakovic - I fail to follow your logic, unless you're saying Pedja does better with someone in his face than wide open.
If he takes 16 shots now, and a number of them aren't good looks, and will hopefully take 13-14 shots in the future (which I don't think there's any proof of yet) that are BETTER looks and therefore have a higher percentage of success, I think he might actually end up with higher FG% and 3pt% which WILL be a good thing.
Stojakovic - I fail to follow your logic, unless you're saying Pedja does better with someone in his face than wide open.
If he takes 16 shots now, and a number of them aren't good looks, and will hopefully take 13-14 shots in the future (which I don't think there's any proof of yet) that are BETTER looks and therefore have a higher percentage of success, I think he might actually end up with higher FG% and 3pt% which WILL be a good thing.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
What Mobley brings that we don't already have is a guy who can create his own offense. Of course that can be a problem with him because he'll force shots, but if he calms down and integrates himself into the offense we gain in creativity.
As an aside, I've got a feeling this could hurt Peja, but it does not have to. With anothr letahl perimeter threat on the floor, it will be much harder for teams to key on him, and will pose a real quandry for teams on who to put their best perimeter defenders on.
As an aside, I've got a feeling this could hurt Peja, but it does not have to. With anothr letahl perimeter threat on the floor, it will be much harder for teams to key on him, and will pose a real quandry for teams on who to put their best perimeter defenders on.
Lamar_Odom
Bench
Last Cup of Sorrow said:Rick Adelman sat down with Kings.com on Monday to talk about the Kings trade with the Orlando Magic in which Sacramento acquired Cuttino Mobley and Michael Bradley for Doug Christie: Here's what he had to say
“It’s a tough, tough day for me because Doug has been a big part of our success since he’s been here. It is going to leave a big void but sometimes you have to make deals to try and help the team. It came unexpected and I wish him well.”
“Cuttino gives us a lot of offense. He’s a great shooter, he can break defenses down, and he gives us something we don’t have on our team. Hopefully he’s able to fit into our system and we’ll be able to do things for him with the other players that we have that will help him
Interesting. It seems like he wants to sound like he didn't know about it. Uhuh!
Stojakovic
Bench
VF21 said:
Not that hard really. Mobley is not shy when it comes to jacking up shots. Besides, it's not like he's been brought here for antything else. He will definitely take away shots from our starters, and a gut feeling tells me that it won't be Chris Webber and Mike Bibby who'll be suffering on the offensive end.
Elektrik
Starter
Bricklayer said:
...and this is why I like this trade. Now, you have three guys on the perimeter that can knock down shots from anywhere on the floor. Who do you guard? Let's face it, Doug has never been a great shooter. Sure we lose the defense and the assists but it has to be a scary thought for other teams to see Bibby, Peja, and Mobely all standing outside the three point line waiting to shoot. One extra pass and it's all over. This lineup will help us compete against teams like Seattle and Phoenix. Doug was a great player for us and he will always be a King to me but this is a good move.
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AriesMar27
Guest
okay... without doug, who will pass the ball to peja? bibby? cause we all know where any and every bibby pass is going... webber. lol.... i'm just messing around, i am so going to miss him.... he and bobby were my favorite kings players....
Last Cup of Sorrow
G-League
Martin will soon to play like Doug Christie 
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gixxerR6
Guest
ok this DOES NOT CONCERN ME! im a big Peja Fan and if mobly will take away shots from peja it would be Peja's Fault your guys are saying he won't take shots away from bibby or from webber but will from Peja? IF Peja conciders himself AS a STAR on his team and in this Leuge that won't be a problem becuase its his duty to take charge and shoot more than webber (although i think thats impossible) So Mr.Stojakovic you should shoot the most since your the best Shooter in this leuge if it happens to be that mike and mobly get more shots than you than you have no pride and you don't CARE, so i as a Kings and Peja fan should not worry if Peja Truly considers himself to be a STAR that problem will not HAPPEN!
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AriesMar27
Guest
well... i'm gonna miss doug but... i got what i wanted.... a shooter. and if doug had been scoring 17 a game and costing peja a few shots how many of you would be complaining? none.... you would be praising doug for stepping up his game..... if anything mobley will take shots away from bibby... because doug had the ball in his hands a lot on this team.... but if he's making shots i really dont care whos taking them... as kobe used to say... 2 points is 2 points, unless its a 3......
Padrino
All-Star
Bartking said:
no. it means that petrie didnt execute this trade solely of his own volition. i believe that he was under pressure from the higher-ups. he didnt look comfortable with the trade in the small interview i saw on the news. that doesnt mean he might not think it profitable, but it sounds to me like the maloofs are getting impatient and have basically pulled the trigger on the eventual reconstruction of this basketball team. thats just my opinion. maybe GP really did just see an opportunity, and acted on it....tho it hardly seems in his character to do so without first discussing it with RA. he likes to keep things hush-hush. he always plays close to the vest, but RA has always been the first to know, which is what leads me to believe that it wasnt solely petrie making this move.
Geoff
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Padrino said:
I don't buy that (the under pressure bit). It was a given that if we didn't win a championship or at least reach the NBA finals this year that change was going to occur. I think that GP saw an opportunity and made a calculated gamble. He's the GM, he doesn't have to discuss everything with his coach. If he did it, it would be more of a courtesy, it's not as if he needs Rick's permission.
Padrino - I didn't see him as being uncomfortable as in being pressured from higher up. What I saw was a man who had just made a phone call to a friend and valued employee - someone he has been in very close association with for 4 1/2 years - to tell him his services were no longer needed and he'd been traded to another team. That can't be an easy call to make.
Just because RA says publicly it came as a surprise doesn't mean it was really a surprise. If he had said, "Yeah, we knew about it in the works for a couple of weeks" that would have sounded really insensitive and people would immediately have started asking him if that was why he didn't play Doug in the last part of the last game, if he had talked to Doug about the possibility of him being traded, etc.
Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. In this case, I think RA said it was a surprise simply so he wouldn't have to answer more questions about it.
Just because RA says publicly it came as a surprise doesn't mean it was really a surprise. If he had said, "Yeah, we knew about it in the works for a couple of weeks" that would have sounded really insensitive and people would immediately have started asking him if that was why he didn't play Doug in the last part of the last game, if he had talked to Doug about the possibility of him being traded, etc.
Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. In this case, I think RA said it was a surprise simply so he wouldn't have to answer more questions about it.
Diabeticwonder
Bench
I don't believe for a second that the Maloofs ordered DC traded or anything like that. It's not as if the Maloofs are going to sidestep the best GM in the NBA and tell him what to do. I'm sure they collaborated with him on this, but in the end I truly believe that this was GP's call and he made it because it just makes sense all the way around. GP has a history of making deals one day that were not even talked about the day before: JWill for Bibby; Hedo and Pollard for Miller; and now this.
When has GP ever traded down? There hasn't been a trade where you look back and think "What the hell was GP thinking?" Just when I was starting to get tired of GP, he pulls something off like this. Cat will give the Kings a dose of Nick the Quick, come playoff time. The man is a genius; he got the Magic to pick up an aging veteran with bad feet and who was becoming a running joke among NBA players ("Man, you're whooped...you're turning into a Doug Christie." http://gorillamask.net/archive/000440.shtml ) Then he gets younger, more athletic, and more flexible in cap room. He recognized Pollard and Turkey Lou as scrubs before their trade value declined, and got an All-Star in return. He let Old Father Time go to the Lakers, who injured himself on Media Day and may never play again. I tell you, the man has a palantir, and can see the future.
love_them_kings
Starter
Duc said:
hmm... hope his crystal ball is working. looks to me like we've only got Mobley for 6 months ...
KingKong
Starter
Ofcourse Adelman knew about Christie being traded, if he didn't then that is just plain idiocy not consulting with the Head Coach. Adelman has to be or seem loyal to his players, hence the "it surprised me" comment. I'm sure he had a say in it, if not a part in the orchestrating the trade.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
KingKong said:
I suspect it was more something where he and Geoff have talked at some point about Christie, and the possibility or necessity of trading him. But I doubt he was notified of the particular trade for Mobley until it was pretty close to imminent. Not that he ddin't know until after it happened necessarily, but just a call the day before or something telling him that it was probably going down. Sincerely doubt Geoff briefs him on all of the discussions the front office may or may not be having about various Kings unless Rick asks/demans to be in the know.
HndsmCelt
Hall of Famer
Like a call at 1/2 time last night?Bricklayer said:
GP: Rick keep Doug on the bench we don't wnat him injured, at least not any worse than he already is.
RA: Who did we get?
GP: Mobley... I'll tell Doug when he gets home
RA: Your kidding me right? Do they know what kind of shape Doug is in?
GP: Shhhhhhh are you on a secure line?
RA: I'll leave Evans in the rest of the game.
tbear03
Bench
HndsmCelt said:
LOL. Good luck to Doug, we shall have to wait patiently and see what happens.
I think gixxerR6 has it on the nose: this will only affect Pedja if Pedja LETS it affect him. Hopefully, it will light the players on fire and they can remember what they're supposed to be doing (or trying to do) this season - winning a championship.
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