PRESEASON Grades v. Clippers 10/14

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Bricklayer

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Peja ( C- ) -- was moving well, but missed a bunch of early layups. None of the true chippee variety at least, more that he was taking fairly difficult ones and as good as his touch is from outside, he has little around the hoop. Zero rebounds first half. Passed willingly, but really kind of the forgotten man out there offensively with the starters. In order for him to get some shots off, we left him in there to give the bench a goto guy for a few minutes after we took out the rest of the starters.
Reef ( B- ) -- struggled off the block. Just didn't seem to be able to get anything going. Missed his shots, fumbled balls, got into quick foul trouble. Looked better after returning in the second quarter, but again managed to avoid grabbing a single first half rebound in 15 min. Major part of our early third quarter flurry as he woke up with the offense and got on the glass. Some sort of A in third, D in the first.
Miller ( B+ ) -- not much impact early and just sort of going through the motions. Really picked up energy and hustle immensely in the third and may have been the key guy in the quarter as we looked good and pulled away. Like several of the starters, tale of two halves.
Bonzi ( A- ) -- got off to a very encouraging start to this one. Was active and constantly around the hoop at both ends of the court. Best rebounder for us on the night. Was only on Cat for stretches of Cat's early explosion -- was more often checking Maggette for the better athletic matchup.
Bibby ( B ) -- looked fine first half, directed the offense decently and scored well, but nothing really eye-catching. Played well in the third as the team cranked it up.
Skinner ( B+ ) -- active throughout, not showing much of any touch on offense, but teamed with Hart to thankfully turn up the defensive pressure and get scrappy. Cynic would note that his appearance and success came against the Clippers super camp scrubs while we were still playing major NBAers, but still nice to see.
Thomas ( D+ ) -- indifferent stint for him in the first half, and struggled after returning in the third. Grabbed a few boards, but otherwise seemed to be constantly out of rhythm and struggling with turnovers.
Martin ( B ) -- nice full speed drive and the foul early, showed a lot of speed and made some solid contributions in most areas, but nothing spectacular. Definitely bigger than last year. Still on the skinny side, but body looks more like that of a man than a boy this year. Biggest thing would jsut be that still needs to find some way to make an impact on the game -- looked solid and for the most part made good decisions, but never really asserted his will on the game.
Garcia ( C+ ) -- hit an early three, but on the other end of the court the Clippers went right at him repeatedly, and he picked up 4 fouls in near record time -- 4 fouls in 4 minutes. Defense didn't look awful, but Clips certainly tested him and he picked up rookie fouls nearly everytime he was challenged. Things got a better after returning in the 4th. Still forced some quick threes, picked up another foul. But also scored on a series of layups inside working the Princeton cuts, and hit a rhythm three. Tough outing early, but redeemed by garbagetime scoring flurry. Nice couple of minutes, but that was really all he did though -- no boards, assists, defense was just fouls. Needs to let game come to him rather than forcing shots, and looks like having his feet set is key for him on his jumper. Did enough good things to show potential in our system though.
Hart ( A- ) -- really liked what I saw here -- rock solid, nice hustle, solid ballhandling, nose for the ball and harrassing on defense. Not spectacular, but very steady on both ends. Amazingly may have earned my trust in only 1 game. Rick seemed to trust him as a stabilizing force too. Not going to be the impact player Bobby was, but knows what he's doing out there.
Williamson ( B- ) -- was able to play at his natural SF position after Garcia sat with fouls in the first half, and just played his power game inside. Sometimes successfully, sometimes not so much.
Price ( D ) -- came in for the first time in the 3rd quarter after game looked largely decided. Looked solid with the ball, but missed shots and did nothing else, seemed a little confused, and during his brief stint almost the entire lead evaporated.

Adelman ( -- ) -- No grade as I don't really think there is much of a good or bad in coaching the preseason -- victory really isn't that important. I did not get to see the first game where the defensive numbers looked awful, but in this one the defense was not as bad early as the score indicaed. What it really was was Cat sending a message to his old team in a big way. Second quarter the bench brought defense and hustle while the Clippers brought guys who belong in the NBDL. Most impressive stretch was the early 3rd quarter when the starters finally began to click. Disappointing that the camp invites are getting no time at all right now -- guess the coaching staff will have a chance to evaluate them in practice, but we may never get to see most of these guys on the court before they are gone. With us struggling in the 4th, Rick made a telltale move showing that winning this one was more important ot him that maybe it was to the Clipeprs -- after only three minutes he pulled the ineffective Ronnie Price and reinserted Jason Hart to settle the team down and run us down the stretch. Wanted to win it more than look at our camp scrubbies.
 
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the starting line-up was very cohesive in this game...shows you that starting SAR is really a much better idea, as he fits with the starts much better than KT (who did like nothing this game, btw)

edit: you definitely snubbed garcia on the score there...40% 3-point shooting, impressive cutting to the basket? played the whole 4th with 5 fouls? c'mon man....
 
Bballkingsrock said:
I agree with Garcias grade. Francisco had 4 fould in 4 minutes. You can't do good when that happens.........

I also think the grade is right on target. Not only the fouls, but the lack of rebs, assts, stls, blks.....i.e. anything but shooting and fouling dictate the lower grade.
 
a couple quick impressions:

Very impressed with Hart so far - really seems to be able to lead whoever is out there and get the team going.

Price had an off night - needs to watch some film and promptly forget tonight ever happened.

Garcia was up and down, needs to slow down a little and not rush so much - nice cuts to the basket for backdoor feeds.

At times the team looked like it is starting to come together, then the 20 point lead withers to a handful of points....

What the heck was Mobley on in the first half?????

Nice comment by Hart in the postgame: "We needed this win". I like that. Get some confidence in the new guys and a win helps the chemistry a bit. Nice to see some drive in him. I really think the Bobby leaving and Hart showing up is a bit like the Williams/Bibby trade - lose a little flash and streakiness and get some consistency, at least from what I have seen tonight. Not saying I am glad Bobby is gone, but maybe the team could use another steady playmaker when Mike is on the bench.
 
um, the 20 point lead dwindled to just 8 or so because it was a 12th-man line-up out on the floor...which wont happen much else other than in the preseason, so it pretty much dictates nothing of whats to come up in the season. though im sure there will be many a time when the kings surrender a big lead...but hopefully still win, as in today
 
I pretty much agree with Brick's grade for Garcia. However, despite getting doughnuts in statistical categories like rebounds, assits, steals and blocks, Garcia is showing that he can turn out to be a very handy player for us off the bench in this system. He provides us with a bit of energy off the bench which is what we need. Other parts of his game will improve as he gets mroe comfortable.
 
1 TeAm DiMe 0 said:
you gotta give garcia a higher grade than that

give the guy some props
Why? The only thing he did was get 13 points. He played 16 minutes with ZERO rebounds, ZERO assists and 5 personal fouls.
 
Netguy115 said:
um, the 20 point lead dwindled to just 8 or so because it was a 12th-man line-up out on the floor...which wont happen much else other than in the preseason, so it pretty much dictates nothing of whats to come up in the season. though im sure there will be many a time when the kings surrender a big lead...but hopefully still win, as in today

The lead was down to 4 at one point. I know it was a "12th man" lineup - what I said was the team was a bit up and down. I didn't say it was the starters that were in there at the time.

And, like seasons past, injuries, etc, may force us to go to the same type of rotation at times (I sure hope not). All the guys need to be able to contribute. With more practice, they will. Tonight we saw some not-so-great ball at times. Just a statement of fact, not a condemnation of the team. It's still preseason, after all.
 
I wouldn't count Price out yet. Flores hasn't even gotten into a game yet. It will be interesting to see if Flores gets in instead of Price next time the opportunity comes up.
 
i think price has a guaranteed contract, so it doesnt really matter
 
Netguy115 said:
i think price has a guaranteed contract, so it doesnt really matter

Well, that doesn't mean we couldn't waive him, or more likely ship him off to the NBDL for some seasoning. But I'm not betting that his entire fate was determined by 6 minutes of play tonight. Certainly didn't help his cause trying to prove he can run a team, but it was only one brief stint. Fully expect him to be around until the final cuts and have a few more chances to either sink or swim.
 
Warhawk said:
What the heck was Mobley on in the first half?????

Cuttino was unstoppable for one quarter and invisible for the rest.

Seems to be par for the course after watching him last year.
 
Bricklayer said:
Well, that doesn't mean we couldn't waive him, or more likely ship him off to the NBDL for some seasoning. But I'm not betting that his entire fate was determined by 6 minutes of play tonight. Certainly didn't help his cause trying to prove he can run a team, but it was only one brief stint. Fully expect him to be around until the final cuts and have a few more chances to either sink or swim.

Agreed.

Saying he'll get cut by his 9 minutes total so far is ridiculous.
 
The whole starting lineup looked like crap in the first half, but when they settled down we saw some good old fashioned Kings basketball!
 
GoGoGadget said:
Cuttino was unstoppable for one quarter and invisible for the rest.

Seems to be par for the course after watching him last year.
Except he would be quiet for 3 quarters with us and fire up in the 4th. Looks like he has reversed the trend as a clipper :D
 
Yeah Mobley was a 2nd half and beyond guy with us. As bad as his shot selection was, he was a savior for us with his scoring. Good short-term guy.
 
good grades Brick

Though I do think with the Camp invitees he'll end up evaluating them probably the last two preseason games or so...it seems like thats usually what he does with those...gives them pretty big mihutes right before the final cut to see them one last time...in a game setting...

But with the new faces we have that we know are on the team SAR, Bonzi, Garcia and Hart I do think in this preseason its important to try different lineups with the rest of the returning players and really let them get some run into together before the season starts...and obviously this year more than ever...
 
Feels like the season is really back in swing, since Brick is grading....

Re: Garcia. Grade is good. I really like his game and think he will be coming in ahead of Martin eventually. Needs NBA maturation, but that will come quickly. And Price looked completely lost.
 
Grades

Is it just me or does it seem that Brad, Pedja and Bibby are having a difficult time jellin' with all of the newer guys?
 
One of the big differences is the large number of new faces the few remaining old-timers have to get used to this year. With only one week of training campo before the pre-season games started, I think we're going to notice appreciable differences with each passing game. It's just something they'll work out IMHO.
 
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