bajaden
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Fesenko looks like Olajuwon against us
Please, Don't insult Olajuwon...
Fesenko looks like Olajuwon against us
Yeah, who knows for sure Westphal has some of the most "creative" line-ups I've seen.I dont buy the rest argument. We dont play till Wednesday. This was the final tuneup, and I think chemistry is important. We're finally healthy ( aside from Dally ) and playing this game out like a regular season game would have helped everyone build chemistry and help players understand there role and playing time.
I cant say im surprised though. Westphal is allergic to consistency.
Someone needs to show our guys how to pass to the chest. Most of the kick-outs have gone to the receivers knees meaning either the defense has time to rotate or the shooter is taken out of rhythm. Bad passing costs several fg% for most players.
Are you really serious? Your starting to sound like a troll. Its fricking pre-season for gods sake. Lets not make too big a deal out of this.
This was his last chance to see what certain combinations could do without the result being a penalty. This was also a chance to see how Whiteside played with different combinations. We didn't play Casspi or Cisco. We didn't have Dalembert. So for the most part we had a very young team. Some with no NBA experience at all, going up against very good vetrean players that have played together for quite a while. Did any of you think this was just going to happen overnight? That Westphal was just going to wave his magic wand and Wa La, were a championship team. If thats what you thought, then you know nothing about basketball..
He's getting shut down by Gordon Hayward lol.
Folks I'm probably wasting my breath here, but I'll try anyway. Question! Does anyone think that Westphal did his best to win this game? Do you even think it entered his mind? How many different lineups did he use during the game? If he really cared about winning the game don't you think he would have used both Casspi and Cisco? Can we all agree that he didn't give a tinkers damm whether we won or not?
This was his last chance to see what certain combinations could do without the result being a penalty. This was also a chance to see how Whiteside played with different combinations. We didn't play Casspi or Cisco. We didn't have Dalembert. So for the most part we had a very young team. Some with no NBA experience at all, going up against very good vetrean players that have played together for quite a while. Did any of you think this was just going to happen overnight? That Westphal was just going to wave his magic wand and Wa La, were a championship team. If thats what you thought, then you know nothing about basketball.
Building a good basketball team isn't instant gratification. But if your patient and you have the talent, you'll be rewarded. Personally I can't believe that so many people are wringing their hands over a stupid Pre-season game. How about we wait for the real thing before deciding to trade everyone on the team. I'm glad I'm heading for Mulege tomorrow so I don't have to read anymore of this nonsense.
Folks I'm probably wasting my breath here, but I'll try anyway. Question! Does anyone think that Westphal did his best to win this game? Do you even think it entered his mind? How many different lineups did he use during the game? If he really cared about winning the game don't you think he would have used both Casspi and Cisco? Can we all agree that he didn't give a tinkers damm whether we won or not?
While I completely agree with you, the lack of logic in this thread is disturbing. People do realize these guys are only a few months older than they were at the end of last season right? You don't go from 25 wins to a team ready to contend before training camp is even over.Folks I'm probably wasting my breath here, but I'll try anyway. Question! Does anyone think that Westphal did his best to win this game? Do you even think it entered his mind? How many different lineups did he use during the game? If he really cared about winning the game don't you think he would have used both Casspi and Cisco? Can we all agree that he didn't give a tinkers damm whether we won or not?
This was his last chance to see what certain combinations could do without the result being a penalty. This was also a chance to see how Whiteside played with different combinations. We didn't play Casspi or Cisco. We didn't have Dalembert. So for the most part we had a very young team. Some with no NBA experience at all, going up against very good vetrean players that have played together for quite a while. Did any of you think this was just going to happen overnight? That Westphal was just going to wave his magic wand and Wa La, were a championship team. If thats what you thought, then you know nothing about basketball.
Building a good basketball team isn't instant gratification. But if your patient and you have the talent, you'll be rewarded. Personally I can't believe that so many people are wringing their hands over a stupid Pre-season game. How about we wait for the real thing before deciding to trade everyone on the team. I'm glad I'm heading for Mulege tomorrow so I don't have to read anymore of this nonsense.
While I completely agree with you, the lack of logic in this thread is disturbing. People do realize these guys are only a few months older than they were at the end of last season right? You don't go from 25 wins to a team ready to contend before training camp is even over.
Anyone wh has been a fan of this team over the year witnessed the ups and downs along with the gradual improvement from 98-03, when we went from being a team on the outside to a team ready to contend. So where the hell are all these fans popping up from? Have they ever watched or undertood the NBA game before?
Fully agree. Westphal tinkers a lot and he is trying to figure out what his players can do. I wish he would have done more to get us ready for the regular season the last two games, but looking at minutes, he has not played his players like he will in the regular season.
Folks I'm probably wasting my breath here, but I'll try anyway. Question! Does anyone think that Westphal did his best to win this game? Do you even think it entered his mind? How many different lineups did he use during the game? If he really cared about winning the game don't you think he would have used both Casspi and Cisco? Can we all agree that he didn't give a tinkers damm whether we won or not?
This was his last chance to see what certain combinations could do without the result being a penalty. This was also a chance to see how Whiteside played with different combinations. We didn't play Casspi or Cisco. We didn't have Dalembert. So for the most part we had a very young team. Some with no NBA experience at all, going up against very good vetrean players that have played together for quite a while. Did any of you think this was just going to happen overnight? That Westphal was just going to wave his magic wand and Wa La, were a championship team. If thats what you thought, then you know nothing about basketball.
Building a good basketball team isn't instant gratification. But if your patient and you have the talent, you'll be rewarded. Personally I can't believe that so many people are wringing their hands over a stupid Pre-season game. How about we wait for the real thing before deciding to trade everyone on the team. I'm glad I'm heading for Mulege tomorrow so I don't have to read anymore of this nonsense.
Not sure if any of this was a part response to my comments, but I'd like to add something here.
The Winning part doesnt bother me. It would be a bonus if other things went right .. and im not saying tonight was a complete failure either, I just disagree with how Westphal approached tonights game, along with most of the preseason.
I understand the "finding out different combinations" argument. Really, I do .. This team has a lot of versatile parts, and its important to figure out who can do what and when.
That being said, we dont have THAT much time to tinker. It doesnt matter what the 'experts' or fans think .. Everyone on the Kings team, coaches included, want the playoffs THIS year. Do I think we'll get there? Nope, but they do, and they deserve to have a coach that will put them in the best position to do that, and up until now he hasnt.
If this team is going to make it there, its going to take alot of hard work, alot of 'growing up' and alot of chemistry. Having Marcus Landry start the first two preseason games and then get cut from the team entirely is a slap in the face to Omri and Donte, two guys who have more talent and more years with the team. Starting Antione Wright before either of those guys is bad too. Then coach started Greene after barely playing him early in the preseason .... Its just a mess.
If Westphal had settled on something early, and then used this game to rest up guys then fine, but that wasnt even the case .. Another random night of playing time for random guys.
This was a problem last season. It cost us games, thats a fact. And his crazy rotation antics havent changed. Its going to cost us games this season, only now it matters because these guys really feel like there playing for something.
Not sure if any of this was a part response to my comments, but I'd like to add something here.
The Winning part doesnt bother me. It would be a bonus if other things went right .. and im not saying tonight was a complete failure either, I just disagree with how Westphal approached tonights game, along with most of the preseason.
I understand the "finding out different combinations" argument. Really, I do .. This team has a lot of versatile parts, and its important to figure out who can do what and when.
That being said, we dont have THAT much time to tinker. It doesnt matter what the 'experts' or fans think .. Everyone on the Kings team, coaches included, want the playoffs THIS year. Do I think we'll get there? Nope, but they do, and they deserve to have a coach that will put them in the best position to do that, and up until now he hasnt.
If this team is going to make it there, its going to take alot of hard work, alot of 'growing up' and alot of chemistry. Having Marcus Landry start the first two preseason games and then get cut from the team entirely is a slap in the face to Omri and Donte, two guys who have more talent and more years with the team. Starting Antione Wright before either of those guys is bad too. Then coach started Greene after barely playing him early in the preseason .... Its just a mess.
If Westphal had settled on something early, and then used this game to rest up guys then fine, but that wasnt even the case .. Another random night of playing time for random guys.
This was a problem last season. It cost us games, thats a fact. And his crazy rotation antics havent changed. Its going to cost us games this season, only now it matters because these guys really feel like there playing for something.
Its 4 am, so bear with me. I'm getting ready to drive 600 miles down baja. No, my post had nothing to do with your posts. You know I respect your opinion. In fact it wasn't directed toward any one in particular. I just got a general sense that some were making way too much out of what they saw. In this mornings Bee Westphal admits that it was his first chance to play certain lineups that he's wanted to try all pre-season and couldn't because of injuries. Also, because he wanted to get all the bigs a lot of minutes, including Jackson, because he felt he deserved it, he gave both Cisco and Casspi the night off.
I realize there are those that are looking for some degree of improvement. But its hard to have any kind of consistency when so many key players have been injured. Consistency comes from playing together. This was Whitesides first game. Dalembert has yet to play in a game. Various players have been in and out of the lineup because of sprained ankles. Circumstances do dictate certain results. We may no like those results from time to time, but unfortunately reality does come and bite one in the butt whether we like it or not.
If we had a team made up of players with 5 or 6 years of experience, then we would look better. But we don't! We have a very young team. The good part is that they'll be together for a long time. The bad part is they're still learning the NBA game. Its fine to voice reasonably thought out displeasure. Its quite another to drop an atomic bomb on an ant. Not refering to you by the way.