Post your thoughts: CON/SAC 7/12

#31
I do agree with this, but the league's offense has gotten so much better, it is a concern. Two years ago, when we won, there weren't any Phoenix, Conneticut, Detroit, Seattle, San Antonio score 90, 100, even 110 points per game:eek: And it is those teams that seem to give the Monarchs fits!!!! Defensively, we can't stop those teams perimeter players (Pondexter, Taurasi, Nolan, Whalen, Sales) from scoring from the perimeter, and offensively we just can not keep up. Some thing is going to have to change, one way or the other. Either shut down their best players, or score easier.
Scoring has gone up, but that might have a little to do with the 24 second shot clock creating more possessions. That doesn't account for all of it, but it is a factor in the higher scoring. But even with two double OT games under our belt, nobody has hit triple digits with us. We hold teams to 71.05 PPG, which is 2nd best in the league. Those double OT games knocked us out of 1st and drove up our average a bit.

I think our problem with those players right now is that we aren't stopping the PGs. That was a huge part of our success in 2005. Opposing guards would have nightmare games against us and that was like cutting off the head of the monster. We definitely aren't doing that right now. And I have no idea why. We should be much better at that by now, that's why Whiz went out and got Chelsea back. That is where the defense starts. There is no reason for Bird to drop 20+ on us. We have to stop the ball. That mostly lands on the shoulders of Chelsea, Scho, Kara, and Haynie, since they usually get the opposing PG. But we were able to do it so effectively in 2005 with Chelsea and Kara that I can't figure out why we are struggling with it now. The defense just isn't where it should be. We had to face Sales, Nolan, and Taurasi in 2005. The key was keeping the ball out of their hands. I still have a copy of that home game against Detroit where we won by 40pts. Nolan didn't blow up cause she couldn't get the ball. That is where this team needs to be again. I think we have seen it in small spurts this season, but if this team wants to go anywhere, they need to do it with consistency.
 
#32
First off, the overtime losses: Why wouldn't the team dribble out most of the clock? The point is to take the final shot to win. We haven't been in a hole where we were trying to make a shot to tie and SEND it to overtime. We have been protecting leads of two or three points and trying to prevent the other team from scoring! The problem has been the DEFENSE. Specifically, if we are talking about CT, our problem was giving Whalen the red carpet to the basket and allowing her to tie the game to send it to OT. It was the lack of defensive rotation on that last play that cost us the game. We were NOT trying to tie the game. It would be stupid, IMO, to take an early shot in that situation. Now if we were behind, that's a different story.

Secondly, we ARE a defense-first team. That is WHY we have a banner hanging in Arco. We didn't win a championship because we had great offense. Our players were (mostly) acquired with defensive potential in mind. I see the same complaints from the last couple seasons being repeated here, that the offense sucks. I don't think that is going to change much. As long as the defense is struggling, we can probably expect to see an ugly offense. They aren't going to scrap the emphasis on defense in order to make the offense pretty, it just isn't going to happen. We are a system team. We beat teams by shutting down everything they want to do. And since the defense happens to be struggling right now, I'm guessing that's the priority. Because when our defense works like it's supposed to? We win. If the defense is working and the offense is pretty? Added bonus (see: 06 Houston series; 06 LA series).

I think our offense is a little better actually. They are running plays out there designed to get shots for Kara and Nicole. The problem is that they aren't making them. Hopefully, Kara isn't sitting in this slump for very long. But overall, while it's still frustrating to see them struggle, I wouldn't be going as far as to say they need to practice fundamentals or spending that precious practice time worrying about shooting when they can't stop layups. Cause the reality is we are built to defend, no matter how much time we spend on offense we aren't going to be Phoenix. And if the defense doesn't get better, we are in trouble.

It reminds me of the Kings in some respects. That team, in the good years, was built to score. They weren't built to be a defensive machine. But when that offense was working the way it was supposed to, it didn't matter. That didn't stop the fans from wanting to see some defense. The problem was the personnel wasn't made up of athletic defenders. It wouldn't have mattered if they spent weeks emphasizing defense, it wasn't gonna turn Mike Bibby into The Glove. They could outscore the other teams, that was their strength. We are the exact opposite. We are built to defend. We sacrifice everything to have great defense. And for the defense to work, everyone has to be on the same page. Which requires a lot of practice. I think a big part of our consistency problem has to do with injuries. They can't practice like they want to because everyone is banged up, and without the practice the defense suffers. And without the defense, Whalen gets the red carpet and ties the game.

Can the offense be better? Hell yeah it can, and it should. It is frustrating as hell to watch them take shots with under 5 seconds on the shot clock all the time. Yelling at the players to shoot isn't the solution. They are actually shooting the ball. And they are missing them, even our so-called shooters. And the turnovers are another issue entirely that won't go away for some reason. There really is no excuse for all the turnovers, that should have stopped after the first couple games.

But the defense is where it's at, that isn't going to change. Nor should they even try to. When the system is working, we can beat anyone. But I don't think we have really seen that cohesion on the defensive end like we did in 2005. In 05 there is NO WAY we let Sue Bird and Lindsay Whalen score 21 and 22 on us. And I think that's our real concern... along with possibly being without Brunson in our already depleted post rotation. But if we can get healthy and work out the kinks in our defensive rotations by playoff time, I think we're alright. We weren't in first place last year heading into the playoffs. We also had a losing record against Houston and hadn't beat LA at all. That didn't stop us from sweeping them both from the playoffs. We just need to get there (and get healthy!).
I don't think anyone has an issue with being a defense-first team. No one is asking to reinvent the wheel here with the M's. I think the frustration here is that:

we actually have players that can be part of a very decent or even very good offense. Kara/Nicole are two of the best outside shooters in the WNBA. Ticha is the All-time assist leader. Brunson is very athletic inside. Tangie/Scho/Chelsea are very athletic perimeter players that can score at times. Even Adrian has been decent. Yo is the all-time offensive rebounder. Heck even Haynie has a 3 point shot.

While part of the reason is that we're banged up. That must not be used as an excuse. Neither should the emphasis on defense be used as an excuse. While the OT losses to CT, LA, PHX were caused by our inability to protect leads, it is also a well known fact that we get into scoring droughts...which puts immense pressure on our defense.

Our defense is still among the best in the league. I think if we won the 3 or has it been 4 OT games?, we won't even be discussing this right now. We'd be 15 - 5 or something. The main issue I had in those games (esp the double OT ones) were that very little of the bench was used in the OTs, the players were visibly tired and making mistakes. We have the best bench in the league: use it, even just to spell the "better" players.

We don't have to change who we are, to be better offensively. We can simple use more of our assets and play smarter.
 
#33
It reminds me of the Kings in some respects. That team, in the good years, was built to score. They weren't built to be a defensive machine. But when that offense was working the way it was supposed to, it didn't matter. That didn't stop the fans from wanting to see some defense. The problem was the personnel wasn't made up of athletic defenders. It wouldn't have mattered if they spent weeks emphasizing defense, it wasn't gonna turn Mike Bibby into The Glove. They could outscore the other teams, that was their strength.
While it is certainly true that the Kings of old were built for a high-powered offense, they also realized after the 2002 playoffs that they had to improve their defense. In the 02/03 season, they still had the high-powered offense, but also was arguably the best defensive team that season. Many of their defensive stats were right at the very top.

So while I agree that the Monarchs are certainly built for defense, like the Kings had to, they need to improve at the other end of the floor, if they expect to not only get to the playoffs, but win it all again.

Having said that, I do think the defense has been slipping lately (too much penetration), which only serves to make things harder for this offensively challenged team. I do think the offense is hurt by the fact that we are missing an all-star post player and Yo has clearly lost lift in her legs, making it much harder for her to score in the paint and rebound. We are not the dominance in the paint we have been and I'm not sure we have an answer for that right now.
 
#34
While it is certainly true that the Kings of old were built for a high-powered offense, they also realized after the 2002 playoffs that they had to improve their defense.
That was because the Kings couldn't get over the hump. The Monarchs were able to overcome their not-so-great offense by having great defense and by getting rid of the players that didn't fit the system. But the comparison ends there. The teams only remind me of each other because the GM designs are polar opposites in terms of construction. I think it's easier to overcome the weak offense than the weak defense. Of course, I'd love for the Monarchs to be great at both... but I'll settle for having great defense if I have to pick.

Currently, the Monarchs are middle of the pack offensively. They should be better, but I don't think it's as bad as we are making it seem here. This team has been hit by injury a lot this year, and it is having an effect on our consistency. We lost DeMya for the season; Yo has her creaky knees and sore, heavily taped hand; Bekkah had the shoulder injury and currently has a calf injury that was bad enough for her to pull herself out of the CT game and miss her All Star debut; Ticha has had a minor groin injury, a broken nose, a concussion, and a lingering injury to her left elbow; Chelsea has been dealing with a shoulder injury and moving neoprene sleeves from body part to body part from constantly getting knocked around the court... we are the walking wounded. I'm sure the injuries play a part in the weird rotations we see sometimes. It sure explains why we didn't see Bekkah back in the CT game when we sure could have used her. The injuries aren't an excuse, but they have an effect on rotations and what the team can do with practice.

I have had more issue with the timeout called at the end of regulation against Chicago and defensive let downs (LA, Phx, CT) than I have had with our offense. I agree with the complaints about last second shots and their horrible knack for TOs. But for some reason, it doesn't concern me as much as our defensive lapses that allow teams to steal games back. Maybe that's because I don't think this team needs to have a great offense to win. While I would LOVE for this team to improve offensively (don't get me wrong and think that I'm comfortable with it), I'd still rather see us improve defensively first. Cause when it comes playoff time, if we are (un)lucky enough to draw Phoenix? We don't stand a chance in a shooting contest. We better be able to stop their attack before it sets up.

Having said all that, we're still in 2nd place and I think this team can be a lot better on both sides of the ball.
 
#35
I agree that injuries have really hurt the team. I, too, think we need to get back to better defense.

As to getting over the hump, in that 2005 playoff run, the offense seemed to start clicking toward the end of the season and pretty much continued through the playoffs. It certainly was better offense than we are seeing right now.

I'd rather have a top-notch defensive team over a top-notch offensive team, if it's an either or choice. I just think we are going to have to play better offense than we have shown this year, if we are intent on a championship run again.