Peja will play on Tuesday!!!

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vj9999 said:
I usually have no problems with your posts, but I think Peja is one player on our team that is constantly moving and trying to get open and get a shot. That game against TWolves is first time in a while that I have heared Adelman publicly bringing to attention that Peja was fouled all night long and no calls were made.
That's my whole point. Like Brick said, watch Reggie Miller. The "special" players just find a way to get open when it counts. Bruce Bowen does the same thing to Peja. So, do we start someone else when we play the Spurs or the T'Wolves? HELL NO!! You find a way to punsih the player that is "fouling" you!

I'm just not sure Peja has that mentality.
 
Bricklayer said:
Peja needs to study Reggie Miller game tapes and start throwing his arms and body around to draw some fouls (of course he also needs a post game, but he seems uninterested in working on one). He did the Reggie for one quarter of one game earlier this year (forgot against who) and it worked. He should try it again -- he just HAS to find a way to defend himself out there at some point. Gets so tiring having everybody else in the world having to take care of Peja.
Only problem is - His teamates always looked for Reggie. If Reggie played with Bibby and Bobby at the same time on the floor, he would stop moving too. Why waste energy when the ball is not coming anyway.
 
peja's getting beaten up pretty badly here.
i say there's a weakness in every player. if you want to pick and bobby or bibby you will find a lot of things to say too, along with many other kings.
peja is peja. it'll be nice to see him become michael jordan but he's just not that.
i wish he would toughen up too, but given the previous posts, i think he's got enough comments about being "soft". i'll cut him a break and hope he's getting some rest and come back fully ready.
 
piksi said:
Only problem is - His teamates always looked for Reggie. If Reggie played with Bibby and Bobby at the same time on the floor, he would stop moving too. Why waste energy when the ball is not coming anyway.
Er...that's not true. In the last 4 years Peja has shot as many times as Reggie ever did (Reggie averaged maybe 1100 shots a season, Peja's numbers in the last 4: 1189, 1130, 1034, 1386, and that's with injuries that Reggie rarely ever had). People forget, Reggie was only about an 18-20pt scorer and every bit as one-dimensional as Peja. The difference between them is simply that when the pressure was on, Reggie turned into a legend, while Peja...
 
Bricklayer said:
The difference between them is simply that when the pressure was on, Reggie turned into a legend, while Peja...
What Peja lacks is the mentality that he IS a star. Watch Kobe, watch McGrady, watch Reggie Miller when they want the ball. How do they get open when defenders are grabbing and holding them? They shove them away. Officials won't call that off the ball either. Each one of them gives a nice shove on their initial move. That, along with 2 or 3 illegal screens, is plenty to get open for a shot, especially if you have the height and quick release that Peja does. But Peja almost NEVER pushes off. It's like he's afraid of getting the foul called on him. He needs to realize that this is the NBA. That call will be made once a game ... max.

Great players learn how to stretch the rules in their favor. Webber uses his off arm to swipe away defenders EVERY time he shoots inside. Garnett, takes a stance that is about 5 feet wide (and completely illegal) every time he sets a screen, not to mention pushes the PG while he moves into him. Vlade turns into a guard and hip checks him on his screens. The refs will let you get away with it. It's time that Peja realizes this.
 
Poor Peja... Can't open himself, shoots too much, can't rebound, is not tough, mentally and physically, lack of killing intstinct, too fragile, soft, white, has a beard sometimes... Tell me why do we have this guy anyway?
 
I think all that above just stems from the fact that Peja, by and large is perceived as a "nice guy"...perhaps passive. This is Peja's 7th season, I'd say over the last seven years I've seen 90% of the games he has played, yet I can count on one hand the times he has looked to me as "fired up, " You can still be a "nice" guy and look like you play the game with "passion." Just take look at Tim Duncan. I think Webb said something this summer like "Tim Duncan is a nice guy, but he isn't a nice guy on the basketball court."

This isn't a knock on Peja, he doesn't have to be that "fired up" guy. You can't make someone into something they are not, but he has to be more aggressive. Every now and then, especially considering the talent he is, look as if basketball he lives and dies with every call, every shot or every whatever

Anyhow, I think at the end of this season, however it turns out, we are going to know a lot more about Peja the player. This season, really since the end of last, has been nothing but a "firsts" for Peja. Things have happened and probably will continue to happen, that haven't happened before, how he reacts to them will tell us a lot.
 
zip95843 said:
Poor Peja... Can't open himself, shoots too much, can't rebound, is not tough, mentally and physically, lack of killing intstinct, too fragile, soft, white, has a beard sometimes... Tell me why do we have this guy anyway?
Because he can shoot like nobody else. Simple as that.

He shoots like Gerald wallace, he's not in the league.

BTW, where'd you get "he shoots too much" from? As long as they are good shots, there is no such thing as "shooting too much" if you're Peja.
 
Bricklayer said:
Er...that's not true. In the last 4 years Peja has shot as many times as Reggie ever did (Reggie averaged maybe 1100 shots a season, Peja's numbers in the last 4: 1189, 1130, 1034, 1386, and that's with injuries that Reggie rarely ever had). People forget, Reggie was only about an 18-20pt scorer and every bit as one-dimensional as Peja. The difference between them is simply that when the pressure was on, Reggie turned into a legend, while Peja...

Those stats are misleading. Give me a shot per minut played and You will convince me.
 
zip95843 said:
Poor Peja... Can't open himself, shoots too much, can't rebound, is not tough, mentally and physically, lack of killing intstinct, too fragile, soft, white, has a beard sometimes... Tell me why do we have this guy anyway?

Because Ron Artest could not hold it together
;)
 
piksi said:
Those stats are misleading. Give me a shot per minut played and You will convince me.
Shots per minute:

Career:
Pedja .414 Miller .361

Pedja this season:.388

Miller in '96-'97: .419
 
Bricklayer said:
Because he can shoot like nobody else. Simple as that.

He shoots like Gerald wallace, he's not in the league.

BTW, where'd you get "he shoots too much" from? As long as they are good shots, there is no such thing as "shooting too much" if you're Peja.
Word.
 
OR NOT.

Grant just said that he talked to Peja today, who didn't practice or do anything, and he says its going to be a game time decision tomorrow.
 
ReinadelosReys said:
OR NOT.

Grant just said that he talked to Peja today, who didn't practice or do anything, and he says its going to be a game time decision tomorrow.


I would rather have him ready for Thursday :D

Tomorows game is not that important
 
ReinadelosReys said:
I think all that above just stems from the fact that Peja, by and large is perceived as a "nice guy"...perhaps passive. This is Peja's 7th season, I'd say over the last seven years I've seen 90% of the games he has played, yet I can count on one hand the times he has looked to me as "fired up, "...
That's only partially true. How about every time he plays against Dirk? What about Kirilenko? The majority here believes Peja is inferior to both those players, but he wins those matchups most of the time, including in the playoffs.

Why he has nothing for Bowen however, I can't figure out. Maybe he needs special attention from a coach...like when they bring in guys to help Shaq's FTs. ;)

He does take things personally, though. He started to light up Rick Fox eventually.
 
Bartking said:
That's only partially true. How about every time he plays against Dirk? What about Kirilenko? The majority here believes Peja is inferior to both those players, but he wins those matchups most of the time, including in the playoffs.

Why he has nothing for Bowen however, I can't figure out. Maybe he needs special attention from a coach...like when they bring in guys to help Shaq's FTs. ;)

He does take things personally, though. He started to light up Rick Fox eventually.
Well Bowen is a far superior defensive player than those you mentioned, and bluntly put, far more dirty. I heard this be suggested the other day on the Sac radio, but someone in the Kings front office needs a have one camera follow Peja the whole game and then they need to send that tape to the L offices. Defenders know, they can mugg Peja-tug, pull, scratch, claw, hold, push- and not get anything called. Peja doesn't call any attention to that, Rick does, but then officials just dismis that as in game coaches banter.

I don't think that Peja just goes out there and plays. I do believe he does play with some passion (you don't improve defensively and try on that end and not play with some passion), but its extremely passive and goes unnoticed. Everyone has suggested it. He needs to start flapping his arms, pushing guys back, do something to get his unfair and illegal treatment/defense noticed. Oh and driving to the basket aggressively wouldn't hurt either.
 
Bricklayer said:
Er...that's not true. In the last 4 years Peja has shot as many times as Reggie ever did (Reggie averaged maybe 1100 shots a season, Peja's numbers in the last 4: 1189, 1130, 1034, 1386, and that's with injuries that Reggie rarely ever had). People forget, Reggie was only about an 18-20pt scorer and every bit as one-dimensional as Peja. The difference between them is simply that when the pressure was on, Reggie turned into a legend, while Peja...
I think Reggie's playoff legend status is overblown due to one great, nationally-televised series against the Knicks. In his only finals appearance in 2000 against LA, he shot 41.3%, which is Peja's playoff avg. That includes 1-16 in the first game. The headline for Game 4 says "Miller misses final shot as Pacers fall."

I don't disagree at all that Peja needs to learn a lot from how Miller got open...I just don't think Miller's as much of a legend as some do.
 
HndsmCelt said:
Maybe Adelman just needs to equip Pedaj with a tear-away jersey and have Tag grease him like a pig.


Now that would be a valid reason for a trade demand. Heck, even WWF would get involved.
 
Keep in mind Peja is one hairy dude. I'd imagine that grease might take a while to get out.

But that tear away jersey really needs to be put into fruition. Loosen a few stitches and we'd really know what's going on.
 
Bricklayer said:
Just like turning an ankle -- you can't always go immediately afterward, but give it a couple of days and a good tape job and you're good.
Not when I turn an ankle. If I do it (never from any type of sports, mind you, I'm talking about heel related injuries here), I'm limping for at least a week and milking that puppy for all the sympathy its worth.

Yet, I still reserve the right to call anyone else in any other situation a wussie baby.
 
I'm assuming by the lateness of this announcement that amputation will not be required and we can hope to regain his services soon? In other words, the x-rays and MRI are negative and it's just a muscle bruise?
 
I think Peja's lack of assertiveness is due to two things, his inherent respect for a game that is supposed to be one of skill and finesse and the fact that his talent was depended upon so much by previous teams he played for that he didn't want to get in foul trouble and hurt the team.
 
GoGoGadget said:
Not when I turn an ankle. If I do it (never from any type of sports, mind you, I'm talking about heel related injuries here), I'm limping for at least a week and milking that puppy for all the sympathy its worth.

Yet, I still reserve the right to call anyone else in any other situation a wussie baby.
You know Go-Go, you're a hoot. :D

If you look anything like your avatar, you're definitely invited to my next Christmas party. ;)
 
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Folsom Al said:
No Peja tonite .... Jerry Reynolds being interviewed on KHTK-AM - The Rise Guys
Thanks. I heard that too on the way to work and was thinking of this thread...lol

He's out for the night.... maybe more???

Edit Again. Now I get home and turn on the tv and He's Playing..........
 
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