One AND ONLY Cousins trade rumors thread

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F the Lakers.

Call up Philly. Ask for Noel, all their picks, Embiid (who might bust anyways), and next year's first.
 
I think either the DMC camp told him to send those tweets to @jimteach so he looks innocent in this as the deal goes down.
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Fegan or whoever it is that keeps leaking crap trying to destroy the Kings, saw DMC's "Absolutely" tweet and hit up Woj in a hurry
 
Livinthedream said:
Anyone follow Cousins on Twitter and see that he just said he absolutely wants to stay? I have a hard time posting tweets from my phone.
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Yeah. And the Kings Fan responded "That's what we've all been wanting to hear! The media gets in all of our heads and I apologize for letting them get to me." Cousins replied, "questioning the wrong guy buddy open your eyes"
 
Why would Divac say no way with such conviction? He admitted teams were calling, he admitted the two need to come together and work it out. Cuz just posted on Twitter 40 minutes ago he absolutely wants to be a king. If we are to believe Woj then we are outright calling Divac AND Cousins liars. Plain and simple.
 
My guess is Cuz does want to be here, but in no way wants to play for Karl. He let that be known before Karl was hired, PDA even reportedly told him Karl wouldn't be a good fit for him, and the concerns from Cuz's camp have proven to be largely true. Karl has said little when a mic is in front of him which portrays being committed to Cuz and wanting to have a good relationship with him.

So it's a choice, either fire Karl or Cuz is going to force his way out through Fegan. I'd also say Cuz saying he wants to stay is him trying to publicly force Vlade/Vivek to make that decision on Karl. Vlade says he wants him here, Cuz says he wants to be here. Trade him and you look bad. And since Vlade/Vivek haven't fired Karl yet, Fegan is working on moving Cuz with his blessing up until Karl is gone.

And this again, all comes back to Vivek. He's either going to correct this swiftly or make yet another drastic mistake.
 
206Fan said:
- Adrian Wojnarowski

What the **** is this? We should NOT even consider any phone calls.
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I'm listening to ESPN LA right now and they've been talking about the rumor of Cousins to Lakers BS all show.

They are saying the Kings want everything for Boogie (#2, clarkson, randle, future picks). Lakers supposedly don't want to give up randle at all and are hesitate about giving up Clarkson. If that's where the teams are, nothing will get done.

If true, Vlade is asking for everything. Basically a lopsided deal is required in order to part with Cuz. That's exactly what he should ask for, if he did exchange frameworks.

There is no way Lakers will give up #2, randle, Clarkson & future picks. So its dead.
 
rainmaker said:
My guess is Cuz does want to be here, but in no way wants to play for Karl. He let that be known before Karl was hired, PDA even reportedly told him Karl wouldn't be a good fit for him, and the concerns from Cuz's camp have proven to be largely true. Karl has said little when a mic is in front of him which portrays being committed to Cuz and wanting to have a good relationship with him.

So it's a choice, either fire Karl or Cuz is going to force his way out through Fegan. I'd also say Cuz saying he wants to stay is him trying to publicly force Vlade/Vivek to make that decision on Karl. Vlade says he wants him here, Cuz says he wants to be here. Trade him and you look bad. And since Vlade/Vivek haven't fired Karl yet, Fegan is working on moving Cuz with his blessing up until Karl is gone.

And this again, all comes back to Vivek. He's either going to correct this swiftly or make yet another drastic mistake.
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You can pretty much count on Vivek making another drastic mistake. Cuz won't be here by the start of the season and we'll be looking at another 3-4 years of rebuilding.
 
I have no doubt that if this goes down. Vlade, Vivek,and Karl will all be on same page in throwing demarcus under the bus. My problem is believing anything coming from the front office of this ****ed up franchise.
 
206Fan said:
Woj would never say anything like this if it weren't true. WOJ does do favors for his sources, but he wouldn't do this. I highly doubt it. WOJ is the most reliable NBA guy and to put his credibility on the line? No.

Mike Florio, an NFL guy for PFT, first reported on the Harbaugh being shopped by the 9ers to the Browns. 9er fans were calling BS. Why would any big writer put their credibility on the line for a "source"?

The FO is lying to us.
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No,. Woj can do this precisely because it doesn't come back to bite him. Fegan is no doubt a major source, so Fegan asks him to turn up the heat on the Kings/Boogie, and Woj can say they are talking. Now Boogie doesn't end up getting traded, well from Woj's perspective, so what? Doesn't mean they weren't talking right?

What Woj wouldn't do is say Boogie WILL be traded tommorow, or some such, then that can be proven wrong. But "talking", "exchanging proposals", who's going to know/be able to prove that wrong?


And yes, if you add it up you could therefore add Woj Fegan and quite possibly Karl as all people pouring pressure onto Vlade. Many non-friends of the franchise. The thing is, and I've tried to explain this to people before, but pressure is largely an illusion. Nobody has any power here whatsoever except for Vlade (so long as he controls Vivek's ear). Everybody else is a helpless little maggot he can step on at will. He holds all the cards. The pressure will make you panic and forget that, but in the end aside form being annoyed at the gnats making up stories, there really is not a damn thing any of the parties not named Vlade can do if Vlade wants to keep Boogie. Hopefully in his long and varied career Vlade has come to realize stuff like that. When you have the final power, you don't let any lesser being browbeat you out of it. he shuold call up Fegan and ask him if he wants a job swabbing the toilets at the new Golden One.
 
ovrush said:
The Woj bomb says exploring other options too. If cuz goes Karl needs to go too since we're signalling full rebuild at that point and he can go ruin some other franchise. Hopefully its for a lot of assets from Phili, not a smaller pile from LA and DEFINITELY not for a pile of mediocrity from denver
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Lol. Signaling a Full rebuild? We have been in a rebuild for the better part of a decade, I shudder to think of what a full rebuild looks like.
 
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Something will happen this offseason. If we are exploring options with Cousins, then the decision has been made. It's Karl over Cousins. What happened to working things out? Such childish behavior from everyone. "Oh I don't like Karl I refuse to play for you because I don't like the coach so trade me right away to one of these preferred teams." And then there is George "no one is untradeable" Karl, single handidly tearing apart our team. Someone needs to be honest, I don't care who. At this point even Slamson would suffice.
 
Livinthedream said:
Anyone follow Cousins on Twitter and see that he just said he absolutely wants to stay? I have a hard time posting tweets from my phone.
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https://twitter.com/boogiecousins/status/613902367671476224

DeMarcus Cousins ‏@boogiecousins 1h1 hour ago
@jimteach30 lol

KingJimD ‏@jimteach30 1h1 hour ago
@boogiecousins Boogie, I love you, but the drama around here is a lot for many of us to stomach.

DeMarcus Cousins ‏@boogiecousins 1h1 hour ago
@jimteach30 awww shut up!

KingJimD ‏@jimteach30 1h1 hour ago
@boogiecousins Do you want to be here?

DeMarcus CousinsVerified account‏@boogiecousins
@jimteach30 absolutely

KingJimD ‏@jimteach30 1h1 hour ago
@boogiecousins That's what we've all been wanting to hear! The media gets in all of our heads and I apologize for letting them get to me.

DeMarcus Cousins ‏@boogiecousins 57m57 minutes ago
@jimteach30 questioning the wrong guy buddy open your eyes
 
Peter_Gibbons said:
I'm listening to ESPN LA right now and they've been talking about the rumor of Cousins to Lakers BS all show.

They are saying the Kings want everything for Boogie (#2, clarkson, randle, future picks). Lakers supposedly don't want to give up randle at all and are hesitate about giving up Clarkson. If that's where the teams are, nothing will get done.

If true, Vlade is asking for everything. Basically a lopsided deal is required in order to part with Cuz. That's exactly what he should ask for, if he did exchange frameworks.

There is no way Lakers will give up #2, randle, Clarkson & future picks. So its dead.
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I've always been in the side of proven player vs potential. I'll take Allstar over a draft pick that can bust, Randle who slid and NBA games played to season ending injury ratio is horrible, and clarkson who outplayed his draft spot but wasnt exactly a star until lakers loaded up the team with d leaguers. If lakers prize those assets over dmc, great. I want to keep our Allstar on our team anyways.
 
Fire karl tonight hire thibs tomorrow. If they trade cuz and blow it up yet again they will lose more money than Karl's contract
 
iowamcnabb said:
Cuz just posted on Twitter 40 minutes ago he absolutely wants to be a king. If we are to believe Woj then we are outright calling Divac AND Cousins liars. Plain and simple.
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He could just being saying those things so he looks like the innocent victim of this trade.

Just like Dan Fegan did with Dwight Howard in Orlando
 
2 things

1. Don't ****ing trade DMC who has 3 years left you can't trade him next offseason not like he loses value

2. Anyone who thinks randle is some prize probably wanted Malone gone to. That dude won't be crap. Can't shoot undersized.
 
Bricklayer said:
No,. Woj can do this precisely because it doesn't come back to bite him. Fegan is no doubt a major source, so Fegan asks him to turn up the heat on the Kings/Boogie, and Woj can say they are talking. Now Boogie doesn't end up getting traded, well from Woj's perspective, so what? Doesn't mean they weren't talking right?

What Woj wouldn't do is say Boogie WILL be traded tommorow, or some such, then that can be proven wrong. But "talking", "exchanging proposals", who's going to know/be able to prove that wrong?


And yes, if you add it up you could therefore add Woj Fegan and quite possibly Karl as all people pouring pressure onto Vlade. Many non-friends of the franchise. The thing is, and I've tried to explain this to people before, but pressure is largely an illusion. Nobody has any power here whatsoever except for Vlade (so long as he controls Vivek's ear). Everybody else is a helpless little maggot he can step on at will. He holds all the cards. The pressure will make you panic and forget that, but in the end aside form being annoyed at the gnats making up stories, there really is not a damn thing any of the parties not named Vlade can do if Vlade wants to keep Boogie. Hopefully in his long and varied career Vlade has come to realize stuff like that. When you have the final power, you don't let any lesser being browbeat you out of it. he shuold call up Fegan and ask him if he wants a job swabbing the toilets at the new Golden One.
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Woj isn't saying that Cousins will be traded. Woj is reporting that the two sides are talking. That's a completely entire different thing.


Everyone can take these rumors as they'd like, but I personally think WOJ has no reason to lie. WOJ has been point on about almost everything in the NBA. He's the most reliable insider for instant news.
 
I think Cousin's agent is leaking the talks. Lakers probably calling Kings, Vlade saying give me everything and the kitchen sink. Lakers saying no. No deal is close but "Lakers Kings building framework for trade" continues the narrative that favors Fegan's agenda. Agents are squirmy little weasels, something we know all too well.
 
I will be nervous when I wake up tomorrow (god willing). I don't want to see a headline "Cousins traded" as I will probably reach a new low and will have to seriously reconsider being a King's fan, as this certainly isn't beneficial to my health.
 
Sam Amick @sam_amick:

Re: Yahoo report on Cousins/Lakers, Kings' management message unchanged: not interested in moving him, focus of Thursday is on draft. But ...there's always a threshold here. If that Kings' ransom gets big enough, you never know. I'm still skeptical they'd do this in division.
 
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