Offseason Keep Boogie plan

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KingMilz

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#62
I love Jimmy Butler, but there's no way I would offer that much for him.
Aside from Cousins that's the only package imo we could do for the Bulls to listen, I agree with you but your not getting him just for Rudy/any other player not WCS and Ben is worth nothing at this point.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#63
Aside from Cousins that's the only package imo we could do for the Bulls to listen, I agree with you but your not getting him just for Rudy/any other player not WCS and Ben is worth nothing at this point.
Possible we may be keeping our pick here, draft day you might be able to try Rudy/pick/Ben. Not saying it would be successful, but might alleviate the Bulls angst over us sucking so bad we nevr transferred that thing ;)
 
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KingMilz

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#64
Possible we may be keeping our pick here, draft day you might be able to try Rudy/pick/Ben. Not saying it would be successful, but might alleviate the Bulls angst over us sucking so bad we nevr transferred that thing ;)
Yeah I'd love that deal if possible but I feel unless we get like a high pick other teams got way more and better stuff to trade for Jimmy.
 
#65
Lol anybody that thinks we can sniff Butler and keep WCS.
28 other teams beat a gay/Ben/1st deal.

I'd easily add WCS in the deal, WCS/Gay/Ben/1st for Butler and Snell. You than sign Anderson (21mill per) than use 10mill on jared Dudley.

Collison/curry
Butler/marco/Snell
Dudley/Casspi
Anderson/acy
DMC/KK

Finally get an all star next to DMC and DMC/Butler/Anderson is a legit big 3. Also this gives us a better defensive team as well as a better shooting team.
 
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KingMilz

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#66
Lol anybody that thinks we can sniff Butler and keep WCS.
28 other teams beat a gay/Ben/1st deal.

I'd easily add WCS in the deal, WCS/Gay/Ben/1st for Butler and Snell. You than sign Anderson (21mill per) than use 10mill on jared Dudley.

Collison/curry
Butler/marco/Snell
Dudley/Casspi
Anderson/acy
DMC/KK

Finally get an all star next to DMC and DMC/Butler/Anderson is a legit big 3. Also this gives us a better defensive team as well as a better shooting team.
instead of the 10million for Dudley I would offer that to Lance Thomas him and Jimmy would be the best defensive wing pairing in the NBA but yeah I agree with you I love WCS but I would trade him for Butler no doubt.
 
#67
Do not trade away WCS before we see him develop. IMO in a season or two he will be the player other teams are offering two starters and a first round pick for.

I do like Butler but Gay, WCS and this years pick is an over pay. Gay, Ben and the pick is the offer. Name some of the trades other teams will offer?
 

kingsboi

Hall of Famer
#68
Lol anybody that thinks we can sniff Butler and keep WCS.
28 other teams beat a gay/Ben/1st deal.

I'd easily add WCS in the deal, WCS/Gay/Ben/1st for Butler and Snell. You than sign Anderson (21mill per) than use 10mill on jared Dudley.

Collison/curry
Butler/marco/Snell
Dudley/Casspi
Anderson/acy
DMC/KK

Finally get an all star next to DMC and DMC/Butler/Anderson is a legit big 3. Also this gives us a better defensive team as well as a better shooting team.
Why would you give up on Trill after his rookie season? sounds too much of a Kings trend and no wonder why talent always leaves this team. You don't trade Trill period. Even with Karl holding back his rookie season, he has made great strides in the season considering the circumstances.
 
#69
Why would you give up on Trill after his rookie season? sounds too much of a Kings trend and no wonder why talent always leaves this team. You don't trade Trill period. Even with Karl holding back his rookie season, he has made great strides in the season considering the circumstances.
I don't think I would do this deal, but trading WCS for arguably the best two-way SG in the league is not "giving up" on him.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#71
I don't think I would do this deal, but trading WCS for arguably the best two-way SG in the league is not "giving up" on him.
Thing is I think its just entirely unrealistic.

Vlade's not going to trade WCS. I think sometimes you just have to read the tea leaves and restrict yourself to real possibilities.

Nor do I think he should BTW. WCS is a nearly unique force as a Cousins pairing. We waited 6 years to find him. Outside of Cuz himself he should be the most untouchable piece on the roster. Actually have a few questions about Butler now. Think this is two coaches in a row he has developed issues with, and he hasn't bounced back from injury at all. Obviously I would still like him if it were indeed possible, but there are cautionary notes and a long history of swingmen who flared up for a year or two, had an injury, and weren't special enough to remain important afterward. Don't want to get caught trading a key irreplaceable piece and ending up with Josh Howard.
 
#72
Do not trade away WCS before we see him develop. IMO in a season or two he will be the player other teams are offering two starters and a first round pick for.

I do like Butler but Gay, WCS and this years pick is an over pay. Gay, Ben and the pick is the offer. Name some of the trades other teams will offer?
Orlando: dipo/Vuc/1st
Boston: Bradley/nets 1st/ nets 2018 unprotected.

Why would you give up on Trill after his rookie season? sounds too much of a Kings trend and no wonder why talent always leaves this team. You don't trade Trill period. Even with Karl holding back his rookie season, he has made great strides in the season considering the circumstances.
Getting Butler isn't giving up in him... I love WCS as well but a front court of Butler/Anderson/DMC and I'm booking my 2nd round playoffs seats at minimum.
 
#73
There is no way Divac would trade either of Cousins or WSC for Butler.

If, and I mean if there is some legs to the rumors and IF we go down the path of exploring the trade, I could see this being along the lines of Gay/McLemore/our 1st round pick for Butler or Butler and Snell.
 
#74
Trade Gay/Ben for Ariza/14th pick/Sam Decker

Sign Ryan Anderson to 19mill per
Sign Bazemore to 12mill per

Collision/Curry
Bazemore/Marco
Ariza/Casspi
Anderson
DMC/WCS

We'd have elite shooting around cousins and 3 good wing defenders. Also WCS becomes a super sub
 

funkykingston

Super Moderator
Staff member
#75
Trade Gay/Ben for Ariza/14th pick/Sam Decker

Sign Ryan Anderson to 19mill per
Sign Bazemore to 12mill per

Collision/Curry
Bazemore/Marco
Ariza/Casspi
Anderson
DMC/WCS

We'd have elite shooting around cousins and 3 good wing defenders. Also WCS becomes a super sub
I'd love that lineup.

But (1) Bazemore is going to end up signing for more than $12 million I'm guessing and (2) if the Rockets beat the Kings in the final game they are the 8th seed and lose their pick. It would take a loss to the Kings and the Jazz beating the Lakers for the Rockets to land in the lottery.

But I'd love that kind of lineup. Add in a top 10 pick to add depth and Acy & Koufos in the rotation of bigs and you have something. I'd start WCS next to Boogie and let Anderson get the bulk of the minutes behind both of them but that's just quibbling. I'd be a lot happier watching that team than another year of Rondo/Gay/Cousins
 
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KingMilz

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#76
I'd love that lineup.

But (1) Bazemore is going to end up signing for more than $12 million I'm guessing and (2) if the Rockets beat the Kings in the final game they are the 8th seed and lose their pick. It would take a loss to the Kings and the Jazz beating the Lakers for the Rockets to land in the lottery.

But I'd love that kind of lineup. Add in a top 10 pick to add depth and Acy & Koufos in the rotation of bigs and you have something. I'd start WCS next to Boogie and let Anderson get the bulk of the minutes behind both of them but that's just quibbling. I'd be a lot happier watching that team than another year of Rondo/Gay/Cousins
If the Kings do bring in Anderson I would love if they would trade Rudy for a SG and sign Lance Thomas to be the starting 3 man.