SacTownKid
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Yes, but they wouldn't want to take back any salary, and/or want picks. We don't have what they need.captain bill said:
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Bricklayer
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SacTownKid said:
The only guy we have that I could see them maybe having an interest in is Kevin since they still have an unsettled OG spot. Although if Boozer is actually on the blocks, its POSSIBLE (barely) that KT might be attractive to them as a fillin starter for half of Boozer's price.
foretaz said:
Uh, with a single or pair of our 6-7 pieces? It's not like the guy is untouchable or definitely staying with Indy. He hasn't been mentioned in anything since July. Just because he's an RFA doesn't mean he can't be gotten. Same for Reggie Evans.
You aren't a GM either.
I'd put Harpring ahead of Jones though, obviously. He is better. I just think Jones is 2nd best after him.
Didn't O'Connor shoot down those rumors of Boozer and Harpring being on the block earlier this week?
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ParniValjak
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Don't get me wrong. I would LOVE Harpring as our 6th man SF/SG. He would be PERFECT. However, realistically, the chances of us getting him are pretty slim IMHO.captain bill said:
ParniValjak
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I still think we need another big body, a legit 6'11 or taller player that can block some shots and block the middle. Not news breaking move but what about this
Williamson to Bucks
Booth to Sacramento
Both have contracts that run for another 2 years and both contracts are around $6million per season.
Or maybe
Williamson to Minnesota
Olowokandi to Sacramento.
Kandiman has an expiring contract so I am not sure we could get him for Corliss.
We could always go for Nesterovic but I am not sure I would want to take on that contract.
Thoughts??????
Williamson to Bucks
Booth to Sacramento
Both have contracts that run for another 2 years and both contracts are around $6million per season.
Or maybe
Williamson to Minnesota
Olowokandi to Sacramento.
Kandiman has an expiring contract so I am not sure we could get him for Corliss.
We could always go for Nesterovic but I am not sure I would want to take on that contract.
Thoughts??????
whozit
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I think you are on the right page. I posted similiar concerns elsewhere. The center position is the achilles heel for this team. I can see the team now overpaying to shore it up.
Nesterovic contract is for what 4 years(?), Corliss's is two, because of need I would probably do it.
Nesterovic contract is for what 4 years(?), Corliss's is two, because of need I would probably do it.
Bricklayer
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Booth and Rasho are much closer to the type of player that might be able to get PT in our system. Kandiman is just a mess.
Booth is just a backup center, but just skilled enough, and just soft enough as well, that he might fit pretty well I think. Wouldn't want to get any of those uncivilized rough customers in here. That would be uncouth.
Thing about Rasho is that a) he's a legit starter, BUT b) shotblocker or not, he's another very soft player and does not rebound; BUT c) even with that said, not only does he shore us up in a weak spot, but he's a legit starter at center (sad as that may be) when Brad takes his annual late season nosedive with injuries. Contract or not, think he's the best option (given that we'd presumably be giving back a real peach of a contract as well) of those listed. Not a change of pace guy, not going to tip the balnce of power in our favor against teams with rough and tough front lines. But would give us excellent depth at the position and help insure that Brad's annual injury does nto severely scuttle us.
Booth is just a backup center, but just skilled enough, and just soft enough as well, that he might fit pretty well I think. Wouldn't want to get any of those uncivilized rough customers in here. That would be uncouth.
Thing about Rasho is that a) he's a legit starter, BUT b) shotblocker or not, he's another very soft player and does not rebound; BUT c) even with that said, not only does he shore us up in a weak spot, but he's a legit starter at center (sad as that may be) when Brad takes his annual late season nosedive with injuries. Contract or not, think he's the best option (given that we'd presumably be giving back a real peach of a contract as well) of those listed. Not a change of pace guy, not going to tip the balnce of power in our favor against teams with rough and tough front lines. But would give us excellent depth at the position and help insure that Brad's annual injury does nto severely scuttle us.
Bricklayer
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Squad907 said:
That move was anticipated I think. thing is that we get Rasho for even cheaper in a lot of ways -- straight swap of salaries involving a superflorous player. Would actually clean our roste up a bit. And Kandiman, while I don't like him, is an ending contract, so that could be attractive too.
Bricklayer
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tyrant said:
We really don't at the moment. Just sentiment.
tyrant said:
We don't if we can trade him for Etan Thomas/Reggie Evans/Melvin Ely. I'd do that in a second. I wouldn't mind if we kept Songaila, he's a real solid player, but we can address our needs with acquiring one of those guys well.
For a center I'd like to see us get one of Elson/Rasho/Kandi/Booth.
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BibityBobtyBoom
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rasho never did anything in SA, thats why they had nazhir mohammed starting in the playoffs... so why would you want him? I say we give KT to a struggling team that has parts, like toronto for bosh and like one of their 11 players with williams in their last names. Or jazz for boozer or okur and some other guys. whatever.
Bricklayer
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BibityBobtyBoom said:
Rasho was as good in San Antonio as he was before arrving there and they won a lot of games with him at center. When they crushed us in January, that was Rasho at center. He jsut never recovered the spot after the trade and he got hurt.
I'm not high on another softie, but he's still a starter in the NBA for somebody, and frankly, you can win 50-60 games with him in there (although not BECAUSE of him).
Plus Rasho got injured in Feb/March.
Boozer/Bosh can't be had for KT. MAYBE Boozer, but it'd have to be 2-3 player deal. I don't think they want to trade Boozer anymore either. Okur isn't gonna go anywhere, especially with his contract, and hasn't been mentioned in the off-season at all.
KT could be traded to a team like the Knicks/Hornets/Blazers/Bucks/Nets.
I don't think we need Earl Boykins, I don't think he's gonna go anywhere either.
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If there are any guards to look at/get, I think we should go after Greg Buckner. I'd rather have him as back-up SG than Martin. Not only because of his experience, what he brings, and addresses our needs, but if god forbid something happens with Bonzi due to injury (not including attitude problems because I highly doubt that happens), he would be someone very good to fall back on. McKie or Person could be considered too, and would be a fine safety/addition to the team. Could be involved as a extra piece in a trade also. Then again that could all change if Martin impresses a lot in October, and he should be putting on more weight than just 8 lbs.
Ultimately that's how I feel on back-up SG.
Boozer/Bosh can't be had for KT. MAYBE Boozer, but it'd have to be 2-3 player deal. I don't think they want to trade Boozer anymore either. Okur isn't gonna go anywhere, especially with his contract, and hasn't been mentioned in the off-season at all.
KT could be traded to a team like the Knicks/Hornets/Blazers/Bucks/Nets.
I don't think we need Earl Boykins, I don't think he's gonna go anywhere either.
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If there are any guards to look at/get, I think we should go after Greg Buckner. I'd rather have him as back-up SG than Martin. Not only because of his experience, what he brings, and addresses our needs, but if god forbid something happens with Bonzi due to injury (not including attitude problems because I highly doubt that happens), he would be someone very good to fall back on. McKie or Person could be considered too, and would be a fine safety/addition to the team. Could be involved as a extra piece in a trade also. Then again that could all change if Martin impresses a lot in October, and he should be putting on more weight than just 8 lbs.
Ultimately that's how I feel on back-up SG.
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DocHolliday
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Ok I don't remember which thread we were talking about the CBA in last night, so I figured I'd just put it here. I was correct with my original number of 15. Under the new CBA teams can carry up to 13 active players and 2 inactive. I knew I had got that number from somewhere.
ForlornKing
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No Thanks on Kandiman.
We all know that a big part of our offense is the pick and roll/pop. When Webber was healthy he fit the role perfectly. Last year, after he left, we tried using Miller the same way but his footwork when going to the basket was sloppy and slow meaning the whole defense had time to attaack his drive and he picked up a lot of charges and got stripped a lot and even missed the shot a lot too, when he was able to get it off. Now, the pop part was decent when he decided right away to shoot the damn ball but too often he would unselfishly look for cutters when he had a wide open 15 footer that he's great at shooting. So this year we have SAR and I'm salivating already as I anticipate SAR in the same role as he is light years ahead of Brad in his ability to make this play. But prior to the coming of SAR I was not in favor of another big, pondering slow footed big man but now Rasho just may fit in relieving Brad since they're both high post players and Rasho had a decent 15' shot himself.
Bballkingsrock
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tyrant said:
I like his energy and everythin, but he is qay too short and we already have 2 back-ups for Bibby.
LPKingsFan
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The Spurs, if you are referencing a Corliss for Rasho swap, would benefit as well. Right now they have Rasho, Oberto and Horry as big men depth, but don't really have anyone to backup Bowen (which I think they would have used SAR as). Thus, both teams would benefit in balancing out their bench depth.
Bricklayer
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whozit said:
Well, remember the Spurs have dealt with us before back when we truly WERE their rivals -- one of the three elite teams in the West (the Miller deal).
I would never have considered Rasho a possibility at all (entirely apart from whether picking him up is a good idea) until last week when a report came out that the Spurs had offered him to the Mavs straight up for Tariq Abdul-Wahad, who still has two years left on his deal. That was...bizarre. First, because I would never have thought the Spurs were aiming so low in what they got back, second because they were trading a very serviceable piece to a major division rival, and third that nobody would have made them a better offer. Not even like they were trading fo an ENDING contract. So looks like maybe they are looking for a backup SF (those have been the reports anyway), and we have one in Corliss. Unfortunately a sign and trade with Mo is out of the question now (and would never have been enough $$ to equal Rasho anyway) because our MLE is gone. But Corliss is still there. He's got championship experience. He ALSO has 2 yrs left on his deal just like Wahad, and I think that is the thought here. The only drawback is that he can't defend at the level Pop likes.
Seems hard to imagine Nasty being enough -- still not sure what the Spurs are thinking and seems like a spare shotblocking center is worth far more to them than a spare SF. But if that Wahad report is true, Corliss is actually in the ballpark.
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