OFFICIAL trade thread. Post trade proposals HERE! (merged)

PJ Brown? No thanks. Old. We can get better than that for Thomas. If we got rid of both Thomas' and Corliss' contracts, maybe, but I don't see that happening, outside of having to take on a lot of trash, and probably have to hold on to even that for a little while.
 
King4Life said:
I'm all for getting PJ Brown if we could get rid of KT's contract.

Imagine if the Kings could package either Peja or SAR along with KT and others for PJ Brown and Jamaal Magloire...

C-Jamaal Magloire
PF-Brad Miller/PJ Brown
SF-SAR or Peja
SG-Bonzi Wells/Martin/Garcia
PG-Bibby/Hart/Price

I know I'm dreaming ...but getting back to the point, as many have stated, the Kings don't have a true PF or C. Until the Kings get either a PF or C who brings offense in the post or rebounds and defends the paint well, the Kings will not go far in the playoffs. Getting SAR is a good move for offense and trade bait, but the C and PF positions are still weak in key areas of the game.
Click to expand...

I like that. More likely we trade Peja and Thomas for Magloire and Brown. Play Reef at SF solves a lot of our problems with Mahloire at C, and Brad at PF works nicely, too. Makes this team very good immediately, even a contender if everything falls into place. I don't know if New Orleans would even consider this is the problem. Magloire would be sought after by many teams should they decide to trade him, and Peja and Thomas are probably not the best players they could get in exchange. I do like it though.
 
Yeah there'd be a conflict. With the Lithuanian SG, Arvydas they signed, and they say he'd be starting, while JR Smith moves to SF. At PF they have a hole, and Bass is the guy I've read they'd considered despite his 6'7" height.

I've never even seen Magloire before just read a couple profiles and seen some pics, know he was an all-star once, so that obviously means he's good. But how is he? Does he play C or PF well, or both? Any other insight is cool too.
 
Last edited:
Kings113 said:
Yeah there'd be a conflict. With the Lithuanian SG, Arvydas they signed, and they say he'd be starting, while JR Smith moves to SF. At PF they have a hole, and Bass is the guy I've read they'd considered despite his 6'7" height.

I've never even seen Magloire before just read a couple profiles and seen some pics, know he was an all-star once, so that obviously means he's good. But how is he? Does he play C or PF well, or both? Any other insight is cool too.
Click to expand...

He's a pure center -- big physical banger. Lacks...spark I guess you would say. Only a middling athlete, and will not blow you away with talent. But he's not a scrub there either and has some offensive skills on the interior (no outside game). Actually not a huge shotblocker, but a tough hombre on the boards who will physically bang with anybody in the league on defense. Very solid 13 and 10 sort of guy.
 
Last edited:
Someone I would love for the Kings to aquire would be Etan Thomas...The guy is just a beast on the boards, and he can also block some shots...Brian Skinner, but better, I guess would be a good comparison...

But how would be get him...How about Skinner and Martin ...Throw in a pick for good measure?

The salaries match, and I would do it in a second...I just love that guys game.

But then that would further clog the log-jam at PF...You would have (Most likley) Reef/Thomas/Thomas...So I guess you could try to move K-9 down to the SF position, and you would have a lineup of...

Bibby/Hart/Price
Bonzi/Cisco<---Potentially opens a spot to keep Mo Evans?
Peja/K.Thomas/Corliss
Reef/E.Thomas/Sampson
Miller/Corliss?/Sampson

The starters would be an offensive show, then you can bring in a good defenders at the PG, potentially the SG, and the PF...Offense may be lacking with the second unit, but mix and match the lineup, and you could have a pretty good distribution of offense/defense.

And for Washington, you get essentailly a poor-mans version of Thomas, and someone to help close the wound of losing Larry Hughes...

What do you guys think?
 
SLAB said:
Someone I would love for the Kings to aquire would be Etan Thomas...The guy is just a beast on the boards, and he can also block some shots...Brian Skinner, but better, I guess would be a good comparison...

But how would be get him...How about Skinner and Martin ...Throw in a pick for good measure?

The salaries match, and I would do it in a second...I just love that guys game.

But then that would further clog the log-jam at PF...You would have (Most likley) Reef/Thomas/Thomas...So I guess you could try to move K-9 down to the SF position, and you would have a lineup of...

Bibby/Hart/Price
Bonzi/Cisco<---Potentially opens a spot to keep Mo Evans?
Peja/K.Thomas/Corliss
Reef/E.Thomas/Sampson
Miller/Corliss?/Sampson

The starters would be an offensive show, then you can bring in a good defenders at the PG, potentially the SG, and the PF...Offense may be lacking with the second unit, but mix and match the lineup, and you could have a pretty good distribution of offense/defense.

And for Washington, you get essentailly a poor-mans version of Thomas, and someone to help close the wound of losing Larry Hughes...

What do you guys think?
Click to expand...
I say Thomas for Thomas.
 
Wizards want Songaila, and as said before, Songaila for Etan. Or if a side wants more, add another player to the trade. Seattle has interest in Songaila also, so a Songaila for Evans deal would be great too.

Thomas can be traded, but I don't think it'd be to Washington. As they'll have Arenas/Daniels/Butler/Jamison/Haywood. Or switch the back-court around.. I think they'll be doing that a lot because of match-ups.

Uh, Corliss at center? That's not happening anymore ;). E. Thomas can play PF as well as center, but I think we'd get a center other than Sampson to back-up Miller. I'd welcome Maurice Evans back in a flash if it's at not too high a price and Martin is gone. Though he could play SF and SG, while having a pure SF.
 
Last edited:
Earlier trade Sac/Boston

I Know I posted this Trade ealier but I believe it would work.

Peja/KT/Corliss to Boston for Pierce/Mark Blount

Peja has been compared to Larry Bird, so there is no better place to send him. We get rid of Corliss who we will not use, and KT's contract.

Boston has toyed w/ moving pierce for years and he does not want to be part of another rebuild w/ rookies, and they are trying to give away Blount, whos contract is to big for his performance.

This will allow us to resign Songaila, get a guy who not only is willing to take the big shot but makes it, will take the ball to the rack and play D at the 3. Mark Blount is 7 foot tall and solid, he is at least 6 fouls a game to use to back up Brad and Skinner.
 
I'd be willing to see Peja go for Pierce... one of the small group of players that I would be.

Bibby/Wells/Pierce/SAR/Miller.

All the Pierce talk has really died down since the first couple weeks of July though.
 
Last edited:
Kings113 said:
I'd be willing to see Peja go for Pierce... one of the few.

Bibby/Wells/Pierce/SAR/Miller.

All the Pierce talk has really died down since the first couple weeks of July though.
Click to expand...

i would do that trade in a heartbeat, especially if we could somehow get blount included.

C: brad miller/mark blount/jamal sampson
PF: darius songaila (re-signed)/brian skinner/SAR
SF: paul pierce/SAR
SG: bonzi wells/kevin martin/cisco garcia
PG: mike bibby/jason hart

looks good from here. i'd be happy with that starting 5, and SAR would be a potential 6th man of the year candidate.
 
Padrino said:
i would do that trade in a heartbeat, especially if we could somehow get blount included.

C: brad miller/mark blount/jamal sampson
PF: darius songaila (re-signed)/brian skinner/SAR
SF: paul pierce/SAR
SG: bonzi wells/kevin martin/cisco garcia
PG: mike bibby/jason hart

looks good from here. i'd be happy with that starting 5, and SAR would be a potential 6th man of the year candidate.
Click to expand...

Why do I just have an extraordinarily hard team seeing SAR coming off the bench behind Mark Blount? ;)
 
Padrino said:
i would do that trade in a heartbeat, especially if we could somehow get blount included.

C: brad miller/mark blount/jamal sampson
PF: darius songaila (re-signed)/brian skinner/SAR
SF: paul pierce/SAR
SG: bonzi wells/kevin martin/cisco garcia
PG: mike bibby/jason hart

looks good from here. i'd be happy with that starting 5, and SAR would be a potential 6th man of the year candidate.
Click to expand...

In this Scenario SAR still starts and Darius is the Backup, but whatever, as long as we were able to get that done.

The only thing I do not know about is Blount, why has he been such a pile since they gave him a contract, does he just not care??
 
Bricklayer said:
Why do I just have an extraordinarily hard team seeing SAR coming off the bench behind Mark Blount? ;)
Click to expand...

hehe..ya got me there. i do, too...but this is all wishful thinking. if SAR could stifle his ego long enough to consider how great this team would look with this lineup, and him coming off the bench...then he might have visions of championship trophies in his eyes. as a matter of fact, we all would. i think that team would be a winner. not just a winner..but a serious title contender.
 
Padrino said:
i would do that trade in a heartbeat, especially if we could somehow get blount included.

C: brad miller/mark blount/jamal sampson
PF: darius songaila (re-signed)/brian skinner/SAR
SF: paul pierce/SAR
SG: bonzi wells/kevin martin/cisco garcia
PG: mike bibby/jason hart

.
Click to expand...
I like the looks of this one. Serious contenders.
 
What is Mark Blount like? I've only seen the guy a few times, and don't remember a whole lot (not a knock on him, just don't). Just heard he's not bad, but not good
 
Last edited:
Circa_1985_Fan said:
Why would you have Darius as our starting PF when we already have SAR, who isnt a SF? Or was that just a depth chart you did?
Click to expand...

no, i've advocated placing SAR at SF for some time now. more than that, i would love having him come off the bench behind a guy like paul pierce, though i accept the fact that its unrealistic as his ego couldnt take it. we're talking super 6th man here, and championship aspirations. both pierce and SAR are more offensively oriented players, but pierce can definitely hold his own on D, and having talent like SAR off the bench would be a rare commodity for an NBA team. with blount and pierce, i feel like the gained defense would outweigh SAR's softness, but i'd still bring SAR off the bench, and at SF. for the kings, mind you, i think that would be a perfect fit. though he could be rotated to PF when matchups allowed, which is why i threw him behind songaila and skinner. granted, we still wouldnt necessarily have solved our problem at PF, but i think the additions of pierce and blount would add a lot of toughness, and i also believe the addition of pierce alone (and moving SAR to the backup SF) would swing the talent factor waaaay into the kings favor.
 
How about Kenny Thomas for Danny Fortson, straight up?

I don't know why Seatle would want to take on the contract of K-9, but if for some ungodly reason they did, we would have that thug that would frighten people from freely slashing into the lane...It would be a welcome sight to see someone get right around Bibby, then nearly get decapitated by Fortson...I guess if Seatle wanted to try to shift him to the SF, then resign Evans, they could have a pretty nice frontcourt coming off the bench, with scoring punch from KT, rebounding/defense from Collison/Evans, and potential in Swift/Petro.
 
Fortson as back-up PF? Ugh, I don't know about that. He's like Evans, only not as good a rebounder as Evans, is super foul prone, has a bad attitude a lot, jabs w/ refs like every foul, and was tops in the league for technicals. Yeah, we want someone with toughness, but aside from Fortson's banging, it's mostly the bad and un-needed toughness, he goes overboard w/ fouls/refs/attitude consistently. It's not the Rasheed kind either. Fortson is a good FT shooter though, and can score some. Fortson's game could be good in bunches, but the former stuff, overweighs quite a bit. If he toned down his negatives, I'd be okay with it. Just would be weary if we got him for back-up PF.

From Seattle, I'd much rather get Evans, just overall better than Fortson. Evans would be cheaper, and is more realistic. Plus I doubt the Sonics want KT. Where they have said they have high interest in Songaila a bunch of times.

Neither Evans, Fortson or Thomas would start at SF. Lewis or Radmanovic will, heck, one of those two would be at PF if Radmanovic gets the big deal he wants.

In general I'd love to see one or two of Evans/Etan/Griffin/Ely come to Sac.
 
Last edited:
Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Stojakovic_Peja_sac.jpg
Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
20.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 38.4 minutes
Thomas_Kenny_sac.jpg
Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 28.6 minutes

Incoming
Brand_Elton_lac.jpg
Elton Brand
6-8 PF from Duke
20.0 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 37.0 minutes
Ross_Quentin_lac.jpg
Quinton Ross
6-6 SG from Southern Methodist
5.1 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.4 apg in 21.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: -6.3 ppg, +1.4 rpg, and +0.3 apg.


Works on realgm:2538810.
Kings also recieve a future pick. SAR moves to SF, Brand makes up for our lack of toughness inside. Ross is just filler, but if his hoopshype profile is true we get a good young kid who can play D. (and we overload ourselves at SG even more, but whatever)
PG:Bibby/Hart/Price
SG:Bonzi/Martin/Garcia/Ross
SF:SAR/Corliss
PF:Brand/Sampson
C:Miller/Skinner

This team is deadly. Loaded with offensive weapons and plays some damn good D too. Bonzi and Brand are good defenders, SAR might be decent defensively at SF. Lots of d guys on the bench in Hart, Garcia, Ross, Skinner, maybe others can step up. This team also has 4 good rebounders in the starting lineup. I'm thinking immediate contender. The Clippers like Peja, right?
 
Last edited:
captain bill,

I don't think it has a chance of happening, but if it did, the draft pick would be from the Kings to the Clippers.
 
the Clippers don't count as a rival. more like a sideshow. And this trade would make us good enough that we don't have to worry about Peja stepping up and beating us in the clutch
 
So what do you guys think about Peja's situation. Now speculating that they don't resign him this summer, which there hasn't been much rumors about, what do you think happens. I mean we can't let him walk away next year for nothing. Do you think they come to terms with Peja, or does Petrie pull of some sort of big trade during the season while he's still under contract.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Capt. Factorial
Next 16 Games (12/19 - 1/20)
Replies
15
Views
1K
KF8
K
R
Kings Playoff Standings Watch!!!
53 54 55
Replies
2K
Views
102K
Tetsujin
Tetsujin
sactowndog
Projected Draft Order to 14.
2 3 4
Replies
96
Views
6K
Ron
Ron
iowamcnabb
Remainder of the Season schedules for the Kings, Wiz, Raptors and Bulls
Replies
9
Views
785
iowamcnabb
iowamcnabb
V
What should a good NBA GM know - and when should he/she know it ? (A LONG read - be warned)
2
Replies
53
Views
3K
Noble
Noble
Back
Top