OFFICIAL trade thread. Post trade proposals HERE! (merged)

hmm....wonder what Sloan would think? At some point Bricklayer I'm afraid your actually gonna start believing that one of your KG scenarios is gonna happen.:)
 
well one things for certain....utah would definitely have the market cornered on long term ugly contracts....

and most likely the gm would be fired...

but maybe thats why scott layden was brought back...

hes very familiar being the gm of a subpar team with a bunch of overpaid long term contracts
 
SacTownKid said:
Looks BAD. VERY BAD for Utah. The Kings and Twolves would have to throw in 1st rounders, but I don't think that would be enough. The Wolves are garunteed in the playoffs and so are the Kings.

I dare you to go post this trade on realgm.com. Actually is one of the better ones I have seen, but noway Utah fans for for this.
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now y woud we this tht makes min to good n if it comes down to it we would kinda get knocked out by thm
 
sactown_draftpick said:
now y woud we this tht makes min to good n if it comes down to it we would kinda get knocked out by thm
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Hint: This isn't text messaging. Your comments are really hard to make sense of. Using full words and punctuation would really make it easier.

Thanks...
 
BigSong said:
hmm....wonder what Sloan would think? At some point Bricklayer I'm afraid your actually gonna start believing that one of your KG scenarios is gonna happen.:)
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I'm getting closer to overcoming the Minnesota resistance. :)

But giving it some more thought, I like this twist better:

Rather than take back Wally, and his own stupid contract, Utah (which DOES want to get rid of Boozer's own stupid deal BTW) takes back Cassel and Kandiman (also works salarywise). Both are ending contracts. Along with Tag, who is an ending contract (apparently why they made the move) that means that they end up $15mil to $20mil under the cap next year and in prime position to add a major free agent. Meanwhile:
a) get a reasonable and cheaper Boozer replacement in Kenny
b) get a young OG (which they are looking for)
c) get a 1st round pick
d) get a veteran PG to hold down the fort for a year while Williams learns (which they are looking for)
e) get another big shotblocking center, both of whom come off the books next year if they want

They then for next year can either start Kirlenko/Thomas/Okur acorss the frontline for a year, or go big and start Kirlenko/Okur/Kandi with Tag and Thomas off the bench. Meanwhile Cassel and Williams share PG duties, and Kevin and Giricek split time at the OG. Then next summer they come to play big time and have the ability to sign somebody to the max if they want to -- and while its hard to imagione this happening, you know who is out there next year? Ben Wallace. Drop the max on him. Pair him and Kirilenko TOGETHER on your frontline. Maybe as good a defensive frontcourt as there has been.

Better watch out -- if I keep fiddling, by the end of the summer I'm going to have a viable scenario and send it to Geoff. :p
 
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Bricklayer said:
Then next summer they come to play big time and have the ability to sign somebody to the max if they want to -- and while its hard to imagione this happening, you know who is out there next year? Ben Wallace. Drop the max on him. :p
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While I'm not arguing against your plans for KG, why don't we get in a situation to drop the max on Wallace? If anyone can cover our frontcourt weaknesses, he can.

Of course that means finding teams to take on KT, Corliss, Skinner, etc for nothing.
 
LPKingsFan said:
While I'm not arguing against your plans for KG, why don't we get in a situation to drop the max on Wallace? If anyone can cover our frontcourt weaknesses, he can.

Of course that means finding teams to take on KT, Corliss, Skinner, etc for nothing.
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There's no way I'd drop the max on Ben Wallace. Not with the way he sleepwalked through the playoffs. Plus, he's 30 and will very soon be past his prime. I'd be very, very reluctant to be paying max money to a big man in his 30s.

I'd love love love to have Wallace on the Kings, just not at that money.
 
Bricklayer said:
I'm getting closer to overcoming the Minnesota resistance. :)

But giving it some more thought, I like this twist better:

Rather than take back Wally, and his own stupid contract, Utah (which DOES want to get rid of Boozer's own stupid deal BTW) takes back Cassel and Kandiman (also works salarywise). Both are ending contracts. Along with Tag, who is an ending contract (apparently why they made the move) that means that they end up $15mil to $20mil under the cap next year and in prime position to add a major free agent. Meanwhile:
a) get a reasonable and cheaper Boozer replacement in Kenny
b) get a young OG (which they are looking for)
c) get a 1st round pick
d) get a veteran PG to hold down the fort for a year while Williams learns (which they are looking for)
e) get another big shotblocking center, both of whom come off the books next year if they want

They then for next year can either start Kirlenko/Thomas/Okur acorss the frontline for a year, or go big and start Kirlenko/Okur/Kandi with Tag and Thomas off the bench. Meanwhile Cassel and Williams share PG duties, and Kevin and Giricek split time at the OG. Then next summer they come to play big time and have the ability to sign somebody to the max if they want to -- and while its hard to imagione this happening, you know who is out there next year? Ben Wallace. Drop the max on him. Pair him and Kirilenko TOGETHER on your frontline. Maybe as good a defensive frontcourt as there has been.

Better watch out -- if I keep fiddling, by the end of the summer I'm going to have a viable scenario and send it to Geoff. :p
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I think it's a viable scenario, I also think that KG will be traded, just not now. McHale will retool for a few more years with KG and they might make some decent runs in the playoffs. All of this coming at the expense of KG getting older and racking up 40+ min games. So by then you'll be looking at some Shaq scenario, where KG is a great player just not as great as he is now.

Another thing does this trade end up with Minnesota having wally peja and boozer?
 
How about Peja, Corlis, and Kenny for Jalen Rose, Chris Bosh, and Eric Williams. we get what we need + a vet OG and SF and Toronto fills some holes with Bosh leaving and get Peja besides they got Villenuava in the draft who is a mirror of Bosh Plus Areujo and Loren Woods. And it works on Realgm
 
Entity said:
How about Peja, Corlis, and Kenny for Jalen Rose, Chris Bosh, and Eric Williams. we get what we need + a vet OG and SF and Toronto fills some holes with Bosh leaving and get Peja besides they got Villenuava in the draft who is a mirror of Bosh Plus Areujo and Loren Woods. And it works on Realgm
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Not gonna happen.

Toronto are on record saying that they will re-build around Bosh. I find it interesting that people think Bosh could be available just because Raptors drafted Villenuava. Why would they trade a proven talent in Bosh and keep someone who has talent but has some question marks regarding his attitude.
 
Camby for Peja, straight up. Works on realgm. Why not? Add rebounding, Camby even gets more assists than Peja, and we have other scorers.

Bibby/Hart
Wells
Garcia?/Evans?/Martin
Miller/Thomas
Camby/Skinner
 
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captain bill said:
Camby for Peja, straight up. Works on realgm. Why not?
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Besides the fact that Denver would not go for it, and we then depend on Marcus Camby to stay healthy or end up having nothing to show for losing Peja Stojakovic?
 
LPKingsFan said:
So apparently the TWolves are interested in Mo. Could we pull of a Mo for Griffin sign and trade?
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Yes. Don't know if it'd work for just Mo, but if we added filler, sure. T'Wolves have a lot of big men right now. Nikoloz, Jones, Candy man, Ervin Johnson.
 
Marcus Brown Weighs Offers From Three NBA Teams1st August, 2005 - 11:17 pmDraftExpress - Jonathan Givony from DraftExpress.com is reporting that CSKA Moscow guard Marcus Brown is seriously considering three different contract offers he has been made from NBA teams this summer.

Brown, a 6-3 extremely athletic combo guard who has had stints with both the Portland Trailblazers and Detroit Pistons in 1997 and 2000, was the highest paid player in Europe last year playing for Euroleague Final Four participants CSKA Moscow.

He has offers from the Cleveland Cavaliers , San Antonio Spurs and Seattle Supersonics , and is expected to make a decision within the next week regarding where to sign.

Givony spoke with Brown’s agent, Craig McKenzie and confirmed that these offers are indeed on the table.

According to various media reports in Europe, Brown also has contract offers from Hapoel Jerusalem in Israel and Ulker in Turkey in excess of 1.5 million dollars net. McKenzie confirmed that those teams are indeed interested, and although the reported numbers are close, he believes Brown can do better than that.

The holdup appears to be whether or not Brown can garner a contract offer for more than the NBA minimum and/or also receive the job security of an additional guaranteed year from one of those interested teams. If not, Brown will most likely return to Europe and reclaim his place as one of the highest paid players in the world outside of the NBA.
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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/36857/20050801/marcus_brown_weighs_offers_from_three_nba_teams/

Sounds like San Antonio and Seattle could very well be out of the running for Mo Evans. Hell, Seattle wouldn't be getting him anyways with all the free-agents they need to priortize to.

Looks like it'll be down to T'Wolves, Spurs (still have advantages though), and Kings now. Sonics are just irrelevant.
 
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You know, all this talk of the Kings trading for Steve Blake and all of the perpetual talk of KG on this board has gotten me thinking...

I don't know if this has already been proposed, but what about Bibby and Peja for KG? Straight up. The salaries match. Then re-sign Maurice Evans.

I've objected to KG trades previously because most of them include Brad Miller, who I think is too valuable to the team and reasonably priced. I consider Bibby a tad overrated and overpriced.

Would Minnesota do this trade? I don't know. They'd at least have to think about it.

Your suddenly athletic/defensively sound lineup next year:

Jason Hart (an Eric Snow/Ron Harper type starter)
Maurice Evans
Bonzi Wells
KG
Brad Miller

Bench:
KT
Kevin Martin
Skinner
Corliss
Blake
Garcia

P.S. To fulfill the Wolves' need for a PF besides Mark Madsen, it may be necessary to include KT or Skinner in the deal and take either Olowakandi's or Cassell's expiring deal in return.

P.P.S. Bricklayer already came up wtih a deal that Minnesota would be much more likely to take because it includes them getting Boozer. Brick, what if you plugged Bibby into that deal instead of Miller?
 
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Nice take from a King's fan perspective. If you throw a little sweetner like a couple of 1st round picks, you never know.

The most they could do is say no.
 
Nene is good, but not that good.

And yet again, Minnesota says no to another KG trade. Plus we'd give him almost no supporting cast- Brad and Bonzi don't seeme enough to get us anywhere. Although Brad and KG combined is pretty much a PG anyway, so who knows.
 
Peja/Skinner/Martin to Clippers for Brand, and a 1st round draft choice. Sign Darius or Evans, and by some miracle Ratleff.

It's a fantasy but...

Bibby
Wells
Miller
Brand
Thomas

Cisco
Darius
Ratleff
Hart
Corliss
 
Man dont you wish the nba was like nba live the video game where you can just turn off trade restrictions, and all the other teams have to trade what you want. I guess it would only be good if it just worked for the kings
 
I still like Al Harrington, would be a change of pace off the bench behind Peja, and has also played minutes at the PF, though undersized at that posistion. Trading Williamson and Thomas would work and add more youth and punch to our bench. Then we would focus on resigning Songila and another big, Griffin, Traylor, or Jhadi White to name a few.
 
Squad907 said:
I still like Al Harrington, would be a change of pace off the bench behind Peja, and has also played minutes at the PF, though undersized at that posistion. Trading Williamson and Thomas would work and add more youth and punch to our bench. Then we would focus on resigning Songila and another big, Griffin, Traylor, or Jhadi White to name a few.
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the problem with harrington is he does not want to come off the bench. thats why he left Indiana.

I like griffin for $1-$2 million
 
Squad907 said:
I still like Al Harrington, would be a change of pace off the bench behind Peja, and has also played minutes at the PF, though undersized at that posistion. Trading Williamson and Thomas would work and add more youth and punch to our bench. Then we would focus on resigning Songila and another big, Griffin, Traylor, or Jhadi White to name a few.
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lots of shooting, nothing else. and as he has shown in atlanta, he can't really help to improve a team. no thanks
 
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