No news is good news?

At this point no news is bad news. If the city had good news they would be parroting it from the highest mountain. I don't know how any kings fan could be optimistic about a new kings arena. It ain't gonna happen. EVER.:(
 
They are accepting bids from contractors and gathering estimations of cost. I believe we will know something of substance by the end of the month.
 
At this point no news is bad news. If the city had good news they would be parroting it from the highest mountain. I don't know how any kings fan could be optimistic about a new kings arena. It ain't gonna happen. EVER.:(

The CITY has absolutely NOTHING to do with this deal.
 
Well, if the city is not involved, who is the "they" accepting bids for whatever project is still existing. Is it a committee accepting bids from a committee of various contractors with no one in control? If the Maloofs, the NBA and the City are not involved, who the heck is in charge of the "Cal-Expo Arena" project? And when did committee's ever accomplish something? And who is looking out for the best interests of the Kings and the NBA? Political secrets never seem to be good secrets. I just wish someone in authority could give me a warm fuzzy feeling about this and not just let "committees" say what they think most want to hear and that they are working toward a goal but then never accomplish that goal. Yet cover their fannies with "... but we did our best to make this work." Baloney. If you really want something to work you find a way.
 
I calmed down and decided to do some real research into the whole Arena Issue and Cal Expo. The lack of published "facts" regarding any goings-on on a new Arena got my curosity. So I went to the CalExpo web site and reviewed the minutes of all CalExpo Board of Directors Meeting for all of 2008. Cal Expo officially began the "Arena" situation in September 2007 with a press release.

The first mention of anything to do with Cal Expo and a new arena in 2008 appeared in the Cal Expo Executive Committee meeting minutes for 21 May 2008 that can be found at this link: http:///www.calexpo.com/PDFs/Meeting%20Notices/minutes/5-21-08_Minutes.pdf

Also present at this meeting in addition to the board and staff were:
Gov. Pete Wilson, The Bingham Group
Gregory Clark, The Bingham Group
NBA Commissioner David Stern
John Moag, NBA

In the published minutes for this Executive Committee Meeting was the following that I have summarized to key points. The text by Gov Wilson and David Stern in quotation marks" " are verbatim from the minutes.

There is also a separate section of the CalExpo web site at http://www.calexpo.com/html/nba_arena.asp that puts all NBA Arena related info in one place. It is interesting to note that the "Media Advisory" announcement about this 21 May meeting was released on May 20, one day prior to the meeting. Of most interest might be the "Recent News Coverage" section. The link "NBA letter to Cal Expo" is broken however. hmmm.

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Cal Expo Board meeting, 21 May 2008

7. Update on Arena negotiations with the NBA
1. Real Estate committee, Bingham Group and NBA reps will review status of the negotiations concerning a proposed project for the development of a new integrated fairgrounds, sports, entertainment and mixed use complex at the Cal Expo property. (Proposed Project)
2. Board to hear public testimony and consider approval/disapproval of "Letter of Understanding" LOU with the NBA.
- purpose of the LOU is for the parties to commit to a more formal process for continuing negotiations concerning the "Proposed Project".
- to avoid an misunderstanding, the LOU is not a commitment by either party to go forward with the "Proposed Project".

There are three critical issues which will need to be addressed if the Board approves the LOU:
- What does the project look like?
- How is the project financed?
- The search for a development partner(s)

What the project does not do is:
- Start construction
- Bind either party.

Gov Wilson (Bingham Group) spoke about enhancements project would bring and stated the parties must work on a site plan and find a developer. He also stated "there is no guarantee that the project will happen". Further indicated that traffic is a problem and maybe the proposal identifies solutions to the problem

Commissioner Stern of the NBA addressed the Board:
"NBA appreciates support from Sacramento and NBA is committed to Sacramento. Proposal will bring new life, is model for urban living and can be built without new taxes. Next steps are:
1. agree on site plan
2. develop a partnership with the City, County and State to address infrastructure costs and entitlements
3. Find a developer"

Stern concluded by saying, "In the end, the parties may not be successful in developing the project, but we would be foregoing a great opportunity if we didn't try".

Members of the public in attendance were unanimous in their support for the LOU.

The meeting was adjourned shortly after.

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Cal Expo - Executive Committee meeting minutes June 26, 2008
MATTERS OF INFORMATION

Director Perez-Cook arrived 10:15am

b. Property & Real Estate Update

A discussion ensued on "next steps" on the NBA's proposal. (That was it!! No notes, no info about what specifically was discussed nor what came from the discussions. Guess that is normal!?)

The Executive Committee Adjourned at 10:35am
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Next meeting , September 25, 2008 is a "Retreat & Meeting" suggesting the public may not be involved or it may be more difficult for public attendance.

The next regular meeting is October 24 and December 12. Meetings appear to be at "The Cal Expo Clubhouse, Cal Expo Sports & Satellite Wagering Facility".

Also of interest is a News Release on September 28, 2007 "Cal Expo Board unanimously Agrees to Begin Arena Discussion with the NBA". In May 2008, 8 months later, David Stern made his first appearance on behalf of the NBA that I'm aware of. VW21 reminds us of the unproductive delays caused by the city in this same matter.

The minutes for the July and August Board meetings have not been published on-line as of 6 Sept.

In Summary:
Things are moving on the Arena issue. It is difficult to know how quickly or how much time will be needed to a construction start. Two similar statements made by Gov. Wilson and David Stern respectively bother me however, necessary tho' they may be from the two attorneys:
- "there is no guarantee that the project will happen"
- "In the end, the parties may not be successful in developing the project, but we would be foregoing a great opportunity if we didn't try".

In the 3rd-4th year of Arena discussions, Cal Expo seems to have begun this summer to be addressing the issue head on. The State Fair will likely delay board activities on this until the Fair is over in late September. But the process will be at best a long one with so many unresolved issues. Board members admit it will take "years" to do. Wonder how many that would be? I wonder how long the Maloofs can afford to wait? or not to wait.....

And finally, it likely is premature for the public to get involved until their is a "Proposed Project" in place and a site plan.
 
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You cannot say 3-4 years of discussions or negotiations as having anything to do with the current proposal. The parties involved are different. The "old discussions/negotiations were with the city and/or county.

Neither the city not the county have anything to do with the current potential project. The discussions are bewtween the NVA, representing the Kings ownership, and the Cal Expo authority that was authorized to sell bonds by the state legislature last year.

This project is one that, if it happens, will clearly happen in pases over a number of years. It is also a very complex and difficult kind of a deal to pull off. That doesn't mean it can't be done. And the very definition of a developer is "risk-taker." Developers take big risks for the possibility of great reward. This is a spectacular opportunity on land very close to downtown. I think it's an opportunity, albeit on a smaller scale, that has to rank up close to the railyards in potential impact.

I can't say I have a great feeling about this. I'm a natural born pessimist, and would be a complete failure as a developer. On the other hand, I refuse to assume the worst, with no facts on which to base that assumption. I have no facts to support optimisim or pesimism at this point. The only fact I do know, is that they are still talking about doing something. I'll take that as a positive for now.

And working on development and in government, yes it's usual for talk to go on with no news until there is actually something detailed to present as the "plan." Loose lips sink ships and projects.
 
My use of 3-4+ years is purely from the fan emotional perspective about an arena to keep our Kings here not about the realities of who was doing or not-doing what since we have no control or influence in any of that. On the one hand we fans don't really care who is doing what only that "we" get an arena to keep "our" Kings here forever, or at least a long, long time.

On the other hand the reality is the city cost "us fans" 3+ years down-the-drain toward getting a new arena before the new guys, Cal Expo notified the media they would get involved in September 2007 and had their first real concrete meetings (that we know about) (with David Stern) in May 2008 that really got the ball rolling.

Hope that clears up one perspective on this whole affair. And I do agree with kennadog that it is a VERY complex and complicated matter. The risk factor for a developer is gigantic Enormous and may take a bunch of years to resolve. The real question still is "how many years?" and how many is too many for the Maloofs?
 
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