kingsboi
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there's a saying that's been going around the association for a decade, maybe two....."defense wins championships"
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there's a saying that's been going around the association for a decade, maybe two....."defense wins championships"
parker
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In general, I don't get the end of game or end of quarter iso plays teams turn to in the crunch.
Also, surprised the announcers were suggesting it was a good look and shot.
CelticsFan
Bench
Enjoy it because next year when they get a get top pick and all their healthy players back, they will be right back to one of the top teams. See 1996-1997 Spurs
63royals
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Bill Russell is on the line to remind you it's longer than that.
iowamcnabb
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They will probability trade Russell at the break and get back even more assets. Curry, Klay and Green is still a formidable group. Add a likely top 10 pick and another first rounder and more for Russell and they will be in great shape. They could choose to keep Deangelo but I don’t think that is the plan.
They will probability trade Russell at the break and get back even more assets. Curry, Klay and Green is still a formidable group. Add a likely top 10 pick and another first rounder and more for Russell and they will be in great shape. They could choose to keep Deangelo but I don’t think that is the plan.
Who needs a scoring guard badly enough to give up a first rounder for him?
CelticsFan
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Minnesota? They have a 19mil expiring contract in Teague. KAT and DLO are really good friends
Why would Minnesota give up a $19M expiring and a first rounder, to get Russell?
CelticsFan
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Because Russell is a 23 year old all star, the 19mil would be a start to match contracts. Wolves would then have a young big 3 of Russell, Wiggins and KAT all on the same timeline.
[Note: Discussion moved from Luka thread]
Honestly, isn't that the value of a D'Angelo Russell these days? He took a couple of years to fulfill his potential as the #2 pick, but he's obviously looking pretty good at this point. He's averaging 24.3/6.7a/3.6r with an A/T of 2, he's getting to the line a ton, and posting a TS% of .571 while holding a USG% in the low 30s. He may not be a superstar, but guys like that don't grow on trees, and there's definitely no guarantee of getting a better asset in the draft. Right now, Minny isn't even in a lotto slot, and they'd probably bet that with Russell on board playing with KAT they'll improve, not regress. We're talking giving up a pick maybe in the 17-23 range and a half year of Teague for 3.5 years of D'Lo? It's a no-brainer to me.
SLAB
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Kawhi’s a case where it hurts, but not a single person saw this coming so it doesn’t hurt nearly as much.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
To be fair, we had the John Salmons experience once and decided to come back for a second helping for some reason and traded our pick for a package of him and an undersized point guard who couldn't even dribble the ball up the court and came with his own irrationally rabid fanbase.
If you say so: I'd give up one or the other for him. I don't think he's worth both.
At the risk of getting involved in a land war in Asia, I understand why you put value on the first-round pick, but when it comes to Teague, I'm not sure why you assign any real value to him (in the sense that you wouldn't give him up AND the pick). In my mind, his expiring contract is precisely a chip that allows you to trade for another big contract and stay within salary cap rules. Metaphorically, he's an expiring gift certificate. You gotta spend him, or you lose whatever he was worth. If you're not gonna use him in a trade for D-Lo, what value does he have?
Yeah, so they'll probably get a high pick this year coming off 5 straight years in the Finals and that's sortof a bummer as a division rival, but a high draft pick doesn't guarantee anything (as we've seen for years already with our team's draft picks). As recently as last season they were still picking up former All-Stars (DeMarcus) for dirt cheap to extend their window of contention. Seeing them lose games by 40 with a rotation of all roster filler is still hilarious. Especially since they just abandoned Oakland for their shiny new San Francisco arena which means their richest fans are now paying ultra premium prices to watch this fiasco.
I mean, if you're of the opinion that Minnesota can't attract free agents, I guess... I find myself believing that, with the $19M that they will have coming off the books, they can probably get someone as good as D'Angelo Russell, but that could just be me.
Telemachus
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Minnesota already has $104 million on the books for next season with his $19 million coming off. That is without resigning any of the other expiring contracts. That won't leave much for signing a FA the quality of Russell.
Telemachus has addressed the salary cap situation, which honestly I wasn't considering. I was more in the "Sacramento Fan" mindset of it being next to impossible to attract a top-tier free agent. My gut says Minnesota would be in a similar situation, but I could be wrong.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
I feel like he was playing like this for the Lakers before Lebron completely derailed that team/tried to trade everybody.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
He was primarily a jump shooter for the Lakers, as far as I remember.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
I think Walton actually tried using him as a PG when Ball was injured once to middling effect.
I think Ingram's one of those dudes who's really benefitted from an NBA training program. He's still not Dwight Howard out there but it seems like he's finally developed the strength and agility to use his length.
iowamcnabb
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Other possible destinations for Russell
Spurs- they need a star player to jump start the next era
Miami- they have some young talent and Riley is aggressive
New York- not a free agent destination. Might have to get young talent through the draft and trades.
Toronto- this would need to be in the off-season if they decide not to re-sign Lowry
Spurs- they need a star player to jump start the next era
Miami- they have some young talent and Riley is aggressive
New York- not a free agent destination. Might have to get young talent through the draft and trades.
Toronto- this would need to be in the off-season if they decide not to re-sign Lowry
Iced Espresso
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But we got Mini hot plate back in the trade!
Iced Espresso
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So the Suns lost, 7-7
Minny 8-7
That's your 7-8 seeds.
We are 6-7...
Beat the Nets?
Minny 8-7
That's your 7-8 seeds.
We are 6-7...
Beat the Nets?
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