Mobley opts out
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If he did sign back with the Kings, the Kings could've packaged him with someone and traded for a pretty good player.
As for seeing Mobley go, I could really careless. I never liked him, and we saw how the Kings can play fine without him from Game 5 in the first round veruses the Sonics, even though the Kings ended up losing.
As for seeing Mobley go, I could really careless. I never liked him, and we saw how the Kings can play fine without him from Game 5 in the first round veruses the Sonics, even though the Kings ended up losing.
Because Cat isn't a franchise turning type of player. In order for anybody to do a sign and trade for Cat, they have to be giving away something of significantly less worth than Cat himself. And while Cat is a nice player, and worth rather more than we give him credit for, if you are talking about a player or players at significantly below his level, that's really bench help at best. Still, it is Petrie. So maybe he can find some out of favor gem out there somewhere, or pull off a trade witht a team with too much frontcourt depth and no guards or some such.
It is unfortunate if we are unable to pull off a sign and trade, this effectively means we got rid of Doug fro nothing in return. Might make the Maloofs happy with less $$$ in salaries, but first Vlade, then Doug gone with no compensation, and Webber traded for three middling players -- you are starting to talk about a major talent bleed and we have to find a way to reverse that, and quickly, or we really will begin the long slide back down the ladder.
if we could sign and trade to get NeNe it would be great. Hell we will even throw in Ostertag if they want. My main concern was the SG spot i Knew the cat was gone i just wanted something in return and i hope Petrie feels the same.
cat for NeNe
i wonder if Indiana would go for Kenny Thomas and a 1st rd pick for Artest. Kenny could take up there 3 spot while Jackson goes back to the 2
cat for NeNe
i wonder if Indiana would go for Kenny Thomas and a 1st rd pick for Artest. Kenny could take up there 3 spot while Jackson goes back to the 2
well.....Vlade, Doug and Chris ALL don't have it anymore. If we were going to get something for them, we would have had to trade them when they had something left. I thought what we got for Webber was ok. Now we have some serious money that is freed up for us to go get someone else. Too bad Ostertag didn't opt out, too.
I always thought Mobley was not a good fit for the Kings. He didn't play the unselfish offense, and he didn't fit in chemistry-wise....a little off the wall and a little disengaged. He will probably fit in better somewhere else.
I always thought Mobley was not a good fit for the Kings. He didn't play the unselfish offense, and he didn't fit in chemistry-wise....a little off the wall and a little disengaged. He will probably fit in better somewhere else.
Can someone with a good understanding of contracts answer this: Since Mobley opts out and we are over the cap, we could only do a sign and trade if we sign him for our MLE, right? I mean, I don't think because its a sign and trade that we can just ignore the fact we are over the cap. I thought that because we are over the cap, we can only sign players for the exception, including sign and trades. I'm not sure anymore. I hope Darius doesn't opt out too though. We'd be in a tough situation for sure.
Not surprising at all. There is no reason to stay here another year. The Kings are in disarray so why come back for one more year when there could be more money and/or stability elsewhere.
I'm one of the few who like Mobley, but this news isn't disappointing at all because: A. I knew it was going to happen and B. Without a leader, someone to defer to, Mobely wouldn't be good here.
I didn't mind his "selfish" play as much as some. Somebody had to put the ball on the floor. I'm tired of this pass, pass, pass game, only to get a rushed shot that bricks off the cylinder. Just because you passed the ball a couple times, doesn’t mean you’re playing “Kings” ball. We weren't playing "Kings" ball the second half of season + play-offs, and it had little to do with Mobley. We weren’t the same team as years past, and to think that style of play would be kept up is stupid.
Now that Mobley is out, that means Evans is probably in. With Evans, we’d need outside shooting, so Peja is probably safe; barring other moves. That’d leave the bench and the 4 spot as the ? marks.
Unlikely. Thomas is essentially a smaller, less talented O'Neal. I assume with Reggie Miller retiring, they would want an outside shooter. Cat could've fit into that, but without him you might have to deal a Peja or Bobby Jackson with others to get Artest.
Retaining Darius probably comes down to whether we go after a 4 (Brown, Swift) in FA. I don't see Darius coming back if we go after a PF with Thomas already on board- that is unless Thomas is traded.
As far as Mobley, since he was acquired via trade, I think he retained his bird rights, which means we can resign him for whatever we wanted.
Edit: Songaila has a player option. I thought he was signed to a one year contract.
I'm one of the few who like Mobley, but this news isn't disappointing at all because: A. I knew it was going to happen and B. Without a leader, someone to defer to, Mobely wouldn't be good here.
I didn't mind his "selfish" play as much as some. Somebody had to put the ball on the floor. I'm tired of this pass, pass, pass game, only to get a rushed shot that bricks off the cylinder. Just because you passed the ball a couple times, doesn’t mean you’re playing “Kings” ball. We weren't playing "Kings" ball the second half of season + play-offs, and it had little to do with Mobley. We weren’t the same team as years past, and to think that style of play would be kept up is stupid.
Now that Mobley is out, that means Evans is probably in. With Evans, we’d need outside shooting, so Peja is probably safe; barring other moves. That’d leave the bench and the 4 spot as the ? marks.
Unlikely. Thomas is essentially a smaller, less talented O'Neal. I assume with Reggie Miller retiring, they would want an outside shooter. Cat could've fit into that, but without him you might have to deal a Peja or Bobby Jackson with others to get Artest.
Retaining Darius probably comes down to whether we go after a 4 (Brown, Swift) in FA. I don't see Darius coming back if we go after a PF with Thomas already on board- that is unless Thomas is traded.
As far as Mobley, since he was acquired via trade, I think he retained his bird rights, which means we can resign him for whatever we wanted.
Edit: Songaila has a player option. I thought he was signed to a one year contract.
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I have to disagree. The "tallent" bleed had allready ocured BEFORE the trades, none of those three players were the same player they had been when their contracts had been signed. I Vlade's case the Lakers were willing to grossly over pay for him and in both DC and Web's the trade menat cashing out before the were litterly untradeable. You may not like the fact that Mobely is leaving rendering the trade little more than a sallery reduction but honestly from GP's seat loosing DC's fat contract alone makes the trade woth while. Doug may contribute where ever he plays next but he will NOT earn the type of money his contract was paying. Same is true for Webber. At present it is difficult to see how Petrie will "re-consolidate" tallent with the middling players he has under contract, but I have faith that in the next 2 seasons he will do just that. It's not likely that another block buster trade will bring a high profile super star to Sac, but I also think that may not be necessary. More likely a few well know under developed/utalized players will land in Sac to become stars (think Brad Miller).
I disagree.
First, I pretty much agree with everything Packt had to say. I wish Cuttino well wherever he ends up.
Second, Cat was a warrior willing to follow a strong leader like Webber. With Webber gone, I think Cuttino is smart enough to see the hand-writing on the wall. The Kings right now are a serpent without a head...
I am really getting concerned about the short-term future of this team I've loved for so long. I am very concerned about Joe Maloof's comment that they will continue to "bounce" trade discussions, etc. off Geoff Petrie. I was under the assumption it worked the other way and I'm not at all sure I like the idea that Joe Maloof is putting into my head...I hope he misspoke.
Right now, we are neither good enough to go deep into the playoffs or bad enough to get a good lottery pick. We're mediocre and I hate mediocre. It's hard to get excited about mediocre.
I hope I'm just being pessimistic and that everything will be fine. I truly hope all these events are part of the long-range plan of Geoff Petrie to have us end up with a Kevin Garnett impact-type player on the Kings. But, to be totally honest, I'm not holding my breath.
GO KINGS!!!
And Good Luck Cuttino...I loved watching you play.
First, I pretty much agree with everything Packt had to say. I wish Cuttino well wherever he ends up.
Second, Cat was a warrior willing to follow a strong leader like Webber. With Webber gone, I think Cuttino is smart enough to see the hand-writing on the wall. The Kings right now are a serpent without a head...
I am really getting concerned about the short-term future of this team I've loved for so long. I am very concerned about Joe Maloof's comment that they will continue to "bounce" trade discussions, etc. off Geoff Petrie. I was under the assumption it worked the other way and I'm not at all sure I like the idea that Joe Maloof is putting into my head...I hope he misspoke.
Right now, we are neither good enough to go deep into the playoffs or bad enough to get a good lottery pick. We're mediocre and I hate mediocre. It's hard to get excited about mediocre.
I hope I'm just being pessimistic and that everything will be fine. I truly hope all these events are part of the long-range plan of Geoff Petrie to have us end up with a Kevin Garnett impact-type player on the Kings. But, to be totally honest, I'm not holding my breath.
GO KINGS!!!
And Good Luck Cuttino...I loved watching you play.
A problem like how. Oh, because he shot the ball too much. Or was it that he was too aggresive taking the ball to the rack. or maybe he made too many big shots down the stretch when the Kings needed someone to step up. I can see where that could be a big problem.
Give me a friggin break!! Cutino was not a problem on this team. All he did was what a shooting guard is suppose to do. Shoot the ball. Sure he did not fit into the offense perfectly like Christie, but even Pete Carrill said himself that one training camp could help him fit in better. I just think that Kings fans always need a "whipping boy" to blame. And since Chris is gone, we have to blame somebody. Don't we?
And as much as I love this team, I think that Mobley had too much funk and flava in his game to ever satisfy this community. He may be better elsewhere.
Give me a friggin break!! Cutino was not a problem on this team. All he did was what a shooting guard is suppose to do. Shoot the ball. Sure he did not fit into the offense perfectly like Christie, but even Pete Carrill said himself that one training camp could help him fit in better. I just think that Kings fans always need a "whipping boy" to blame. And since Chris is gone, we have to blame somebody. Don't we?
And as much as I love this team, I think that Mobley had too much funk and flava in his game to ever satisfy this community. He may be better elsewhere.
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