Mo Evans: The future 2 of the Kings.
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Roleplayer type guy (i.e. is not good at creating for himself or others, hustles + catch and shoot). I think whether he's a guy you want to start there depends on what the rest of the team looks like next year. If we were to somehow import a true superstar, or at the very least a big post player, then it becomes practical to have a roleplayer as a starter. But if we're going to bring back the entire "core"...well, if Bibby, Peja, Vlade (assuming that he and Miller are roughly equal, although truth is I think Vlade was better), Webber (MVP candidate) and Christie (defensive Player of the Year candidate) could not do it, there is no way that Bibby/Peja/Miller and Evans and Thomas are even close.
He's got a role on a good team, but its not as a starter unless you have an overwhelming talent out there to work with him.
He's got a role on a good team, but its not as a starter unless you have an overwhelming talent out there to work with him.
I'd love to see Evans starting. I don't think there's a better rebounding guard in the league, he's a good defender, and he knows his role and plays within that. However, if there's a chance to get a star SG like Michael Redd or Larry Hughes(you never know with Petrie), I'd have to change my mind.
We'll have Bibby, Peja, and Miller for scoring, and an as-yet-unknown PF. I think Evans will be OK as a 10 PPG type guy, 5th option among the starters, basically the Christie role. We lose some defense and passing from Doug, but we improve rebounding and break even offensively.
Bottom line: If we can trade for (or use the MLE on) a new SG or a new PF, I'd go for the PF and start Evans in a heartbeat. If we have a Thomas-Songaila-Corliss lineup at the 4 next year I am just going to become depressed.
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We'll have Bibby, Peja, and Miller for scoring, and an as-yet-unknown PF. I think Evans will be OK as a 10 PPG type guy, 5th option among the starters, basically the Christie role. We lose some defense and passing from Doug, but we improve rebounding and break even offensively.
Bottom line: If we can trade for (or use the MLE on) a new SG or a new PF, I'd go for the PF and start Evans in a heartbeat. If we have a Thomas-Songaila-Corliss lineup at the 4 next year I am just going to become depressed.
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No, you have to have "Bird Rights" on a guy to do that, that means 3 or more years with the team. I forget the rules on guys like Darius who've been on the team for 2 years. I am pretty sure with "Early Bird" players like that, you have the right to match an offer up to a certain amount.
I think Mo can hold it down as a starter for a year, if that's what it takes to address other parts of the team first and get it done right.
I think Mo can hold it down as a starter for a year, if that's what it takes to address other parts of the team first and get it done right.
Need salary room
As much as I like Thomas' game, he's undersized at the 4 and both he and Corliss are due to make $6m next season. I expect both to be gone. We can't be paying that much for role players. If we lose Darius, I'd like to see Kenny be the reserve 3, but I think his contract will send him packing. We need the $ for the new 4.
As much as I like Thomas' game, he's undersized at the 4 and both he and Corliss are due to make $6m next season. I expect both to be gone. We can't be paying that much for role players. If we lose Darius, I'd like to see Kenny be the reserve 3, but I think his contract will send him packing. We need the $ for the new 4.
This question is too vague. Sure I would like Evans to start, but only if we got a more dominant power forward. It seems like we can either start Thomas and get another SG, or vice versa. And that is assuming Bibby/Miller/Peja are not traded for a superstar. I definately want Evans to remain on the team, but we would need to drastically improve other positions (e.g. power forward or trading one of the so-called "big three" for a true superstar).
Mo will not command the MLE.
We can sign Darius to an amount equal to the MLE without it counting as our MLE since he's been with us two years.
So we do have the entire MLE to offer any free agent we want. I think we may offer Mo the LLE... but I guess it depends on how much other teams are willing to offer.
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We can sign Darius to an amount equal to the MLE without it counting as our MLE since he's been with us two years.
So we do have the entire MLE to offer any free agent we want. I think we may offer Mo the LLE... but I guess it depends on how much other teams are willing to offer.
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He said "overwhelming talent." 
I think that Miller will be just fine as long as he's playing alongside a solid defensive PF (ideally, Tyson Chandler or PJ Brown, or even a Joe Smith), and there really isn't a better option at center out there, but either Bibby or Stojakovic has to go.
My impulse would be to try and trade Stojakovic and one or more of the pieces from the Webber trade to get a star SF in return, and then try and pick up a soild FA power forward (there seem to be plenty out there). My logic for choosing Stojakovic to trade over Bibby and Miller is simply that the point guard and center positions have traditionally been the hardest positions to get value for in a trade, and there aren't nearly as many quality free agent PG's or C's as there are G/F's.
Of course, my number one dream trade scenario was to send Stojakovic, Mobley and Songaila to New Jersey for Carter and Krstic, but I guess that's out the window...
I think that Miller will be just fine as long as he's playing alongside a solid defensive PF (ideally, Tyson Chandler or PJ Brown, or even a Joe Smith), and there really isn't a better option at center out there, but either Bibby or Stojakovic has to go.
My impulse would be to try and trade Stojakovic and one or more of the pieces from the Webber trade to get a star SF in return, and then try and pick up a soild FA power forward (there seem to be plenty out there). My logic for choosing Stojakovic to trade over Bibby and Miller is simply that the point guard and center positions have traditionally been the hardest positions to get value for in a trade, and there aren't nearly as many quality free agent PG's or C's as there are G/F's.
Of course, my number one dream trade scenario was to send Stojakovic, Mobley and Songaila to New Jersey for Carter and Krstic, but I guess that's out the window...
Unfortunately not up to us -- we have no Bird rights to Mo so he's effectively no longer on the team at all and can sign anywhere he wants. If Cat really is gone though, we might be able to put up a very attractive offer even with less money if we more or less hold he starting OG spot for him.
Just huge question then though -- mentioned before, our "core" used to be led on the offensive end of the floor by an MVP candidate and the defensive end of the floor by a Defensive Player of the Year candidate, not to mention having a 6th Man of the Year candidate coming off the bench, and still they could not get it done. If Mo is your OG that's a big step down from Doug in his prime, and who knows what the PF spot is going to look like or whether Bobby can hold it together at age 33. And we weren't able to seal the deal WITH all that talent. So now we try to do it with Mike/Brad/Peja/Mo Evans? Looks like a formula for concession and settling back into the pack of good but not great teams.
Just huge question then though -- mentioned before, our "core" used to be led on the offensive end of the floor by an MVP candidate and the defensive end of the floor by a Defensive Player of the Year candidate, not to mention having a 6th Man of the Year candidate coming off the bench, and still they could not get it done. If Mo is your OG that's a big step down from Doug in his prime, and who knows what the PF spot is going to look like or whether Bobby can hold it together at age 33. And we weren't able to seal the deal WITH all that talent. So now we try to do it with Mike/Brad/Peja/Mo Evans? Looks like a formula for concession and settling back into the pack of good but not great teams.
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I think the Kings need to get back to having a role player at the SG because Bibby shoots the ball quite often. I didn't think he and Mobley made a very good combo because of that very fact. Evans fits the mold of a specialised role player. Who else is at the SG position in the league that doesn't want to shoot all the time, can rebound, play defense, and is athletic as all HADES!!! I think if given time to adjust to what ever style the Kings play next season Mo could be the guy.
If you think about it, when the Kings were most successful they had specialised role players in Vlade and Doug at the C and SG positions. Brad is not a role player though and resembles more of Webbers position on the team. So find either role players at the SG and PF positions, or move Brad to PF and find a big guy to go with him.
If you think about it, when the Kings were most successful they had specialised role players in Vlade and Doug at the C and SG positions. Brad is not a role player though and resembles more of Webbers position on the team. So find either role players at the SG and PF positions, or move Brad to PF and find a big guy to go with him.
I agree it would be a move to restore balance -- my point though was that we are restoring balance but with considerably less talented pieces. And there is little long term hope that way. We just become a less talented version of our earlier selves, and we are through as an elite team. Ignoring the pure falloff in offense/defense, the thing that is really almost impossible to replace from those spots is the creative ability. Webb and Doug were great creaters, and as we roleplayer ourselves up we are left with a single less talneted big man passer, and Mike trying to carry a huge load. Its just all in all a much more mediocre version of what we once were. Solid, but not scaring anyone.
Yes while you will never get anybody to replace Doug and CWebbs ability to be a play maker I think we could get stronger is a few other areas.
Doug was and still is an UNBELIEVABLE passer, this was something I knew the Kings would miss more than anything when he was traded.
On the other hand Evans could be a great player at driving to the basket and cleaning up on the offensive glass. He is also beginning to develop a very consistent corner 3. While Evans isn't as a good a defender as Doug in his prime, I think Evans has the ability to make strides in that area fairly quickly and perhaps be one of the top defenders in the league next season thanks of his great athletic skill.
As for the PF/C position. If we could place a rebounding / shot blocking big man with even limited play making skills we should be all right.
All I can say is that I hope the Kings try to improve in the area of major deficiency, like rebounding and defense and I think we have enough play makers left in Brad, Peja, and Bibby to be a championship threat.
Doug was and still is an UNBELIEVABLE passer, this was something I knew the Kings would miss more than anything when he was traded.
On the other hand Evans could be a great player at driving to the basket and cleaning up on the offensive glass. He is also beginning to develop a very consistent corner 3. While Evans isn't as a good a defender as Doug in his prime, I think Evans has the ability to make strides in that area fairly quickly and perhaps be one of the top defenders in the league next season thanks of his great athletic skill.
As for the PF/C position. If we could place a rebounding / shot blocking big man with even limited play making skills we should be all right.
All I can say is that I hope the Kings try to improve in the area of major deficiency, like rebounding and defense and I think we have enough play makers left in Brad, Peja, and Bibby to be a championship threat.
