ParniValjak
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Mitch Richmond 3s all of them!Of course, after I put the time in for that post, DX posts a workout video of him hitting 9 good-looking NBA 3pointers in a row
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ParniValjak
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While I agree in principle, lets not forget that it wasn’t really that Giles tore the ACL but the fact he has done it twice (once on each leg) and he had to have a clean up on the same knee he had the latest reconstruction on.
One ACL gets overlooked. Smith Jr. was drafted in top 10 after having a good college season. Players get drafted reasonably ealry coming off one ACL injury all the time. When you have both knees reconstructed and then have a subsequent clean up, team should absolutely question whether it’s genetic and whether the risk is too high. Especially for team with 1 first round pick.
Kings ended up with 3 after trading down so the risk was well worth taking.
Porter js different in a sense that it is his first major injury to date IIRC. Yes it’s a back injury but a lot of players had very good career after back surgeries. Plus we are likely to only have 1 first round pick this year which rightly changes the risk appetite of a franchise.
Having said that, I think Porter will be our pick. Fills the position of need, high reward, swing for the fences type pick except we probably won’t have the luxury of sitting him out for a year like we did with Giles.
If WCS is better at PF, then we have a big problem. He can't stretch the floor. He's a medicore rebounder(per 48 among PF/Cs who play at least 18mpg, he ranks 44th overall). He's a mediocre rim protector (per 48, he's 24th among PF/Cs).
So if you're looking for a someone to pair next to WCS, then you need a 3pt shooting, rebounding, shotblocking C, who can defend the post too. This archetype is extremely hard to find among Cs...and I sure as hell wouldn't draft Wendell Carter Jr just so Willie can play PF.
Would you go into the draft with "fit" in mind? I don't think you can. Not on a team that won ~30games, and had 36yearold Randolph as their leading scorer. This team needs as much talent as they can get..period. I'm not saying it's Bamba, but I think it would be wrong to dismiss someone because of fit. I also don't think the Kings are on a timeline. A couple posters have said so many times that PG is the hardest position to learn and it'll take time for Fox to develop. If true, then what's the rush with our 2018 draft pick? Why do we need an instant starter? Instant impacter? When our assumed franchise player needs additional time to develop anyways?
You don't talk about fit with a team like ours. Especially with a ton of uncertainty surrounding the talent we currently have...
So if you're looking for a someone to pair next to WCS, then you need a 3pt shooting, rebounding, shotblocking C, who can defend the post too. This archetype is extremely hard to find among Cs...and I sure as hell wouldn't draft Wendell Carter Jr just so Willie can play PF.
Would you go into the draft with "fit" in mind? I don't think you can. Not on a team that won ~30games, and had 36yearold Randolph as their leading scorer. This team needs as much talent as they can get..period. I'm not saying it's Bamba, but I think it would be wrong to dismiss someone because of fit. I also don't think the Kings are on a timeline. A couple posters have said so many times that PG is the hardest position to learn and it'll take time for Fox to develop. If true, then what's the rush with our 2018 draft pick? Why do we need an instant starter? Instant impacter? When our assumed franchise player needs additional time to develop anyways?
You don't talk about fit with a team like ours. Especially with a ton of uncertainty surrounding the talent we currently have...
CelticsFan
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The front office and coaching staff may not be around after next season. I agree, I’m not concerned much about fit. Kings need a high upside guy.
You can talk fit if the remaining talent available at the pick is equal. Assuming Porter is gone and Bamba and Mikal Bridges are both available, I'd take Bridges at this point. And I'm with the group that thinks that Bridges can have an impact with us.......not number 1 scoring option or anything like that but a 3 and D elite role player impact with maybe a bit more than that. Most of the guys will be role players once available to us at that pick.
Who has come back from a back injury? Look at Dwight he was a shell of his former self after his
Ya WCS at PF could be franchise crippling in this era unless our center can stretch the floor. Only way I’d have him there is if we drafted Carter, Ayton, or Jackson otherwise absolutely not. Can’t have 3 non shooter on the court ever that’s a loosing team right there.
Also Vlade should operate under that rules if you can’t shoot you’re not gonna be in a Kong’s uniform. Shooting wins in this league period.
ockingsfan
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Of course, after I put the time in for that post, DX posts a workout video of him hitting 9 good-looking NBA 3pointers in a row
Nice video and I do like Bamba, but I do recall seeing a similar video of WCS knocking down like 20+ 3's in a workout before his draft too.
So, we need to take these workout videos with a grain of salt.
SacTownKid
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If we draft him I hope he's as good as you're thinking he can be. If we pass on him, I hope he's nothing of the sort
He kind of reminds me of 2018 Willie Cauley Stein offensively but he's much younger with plenty of time to develop. I wouldn't hold out hope on him being AD but being offensively and defensively better than WCS would be very valuable.
I'm not so sure I see him lasting if the pick stays around 7. If so I absolutely think he's worth the gamble. I'm not sure I'd put money on him getting to AD's level but I think he'll be a good selection even if he gets half way there. I think his floor will be Nerlens Noel with range, which ain't bad.
SacTownKid
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Nice video and I do like Bamba, but I do recall seeing a similar video of WCS knocking down like 20+ 3's in a workout before his draft too.
So, we need to take these workout videos with a grain of salt.
Very true. His shot does look good though. Also, Willie wasn't a 19 year old one and done during his workouts. It's like any Fox comparisons, you have to put those types of things in perspective.
bajaden
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Nice video and I do like Bamba, but I do recall seeing a similar video of WCS knocking down like 20+ 3's in a workout before his draft too.
So, we need to take these workout videos with a grain of salt.
I believe I posted a video of Nik Stauskas hitting something like 47 three's in a row prior to him being drafted by us. Look, I think it's encouraging to see Bamba improving his shot mechanics, but as we all know, hitting shots in a game is much tougher. I just look at it as promising. To be honest I'm more excited about the development of his step back fade away shot. He looks very fluid, and that's a shot that's almost impossible to block. One of my concerns with Bamba is the fact that he only had 15 assists in 30 games. He's not known for his passing, and the Kings are trying to develop a passing team.
Yeah, I'm talking about fit, and if you don't think that fit is important, then your nuts. Why do you think the Spurs have been as good as they've been for so many years? Why are the Warriors such a good team, and why aren't the Thunder better than they are. FIT!!!!! And by fit, I'm not necessarily talking about positional fit, but skill sets that fit. I'm not saying you draft an inferior player because his skill set fits better, but if and when all things are close to equal, yes, you go for fit as one of the qualifiers.
Now to be fair to Bamba, Willie wasn't know for his passing when we drafted him, and he's turned himself into a good passer. And before we pass judgement on him at the PF position, and think it would be some kind of franchise disaster, (ridiculous) lets see how he plays this coming season. This past season was his first where they ran the ball through him. I thought for the most part, he adjusted fairly well, and will only get better. Anyway, it's very possible that Bamba can make improvements in that area. It's just going to take some time.
How is it possible to establish an identity while winning less than 30 games though? How do we know it'll be a success for winning? We don't. All this talk about passing and ball movement, when in reality, Bogdan and WCS are the only above average passers on our team. Fox is not a good passer right now because he just doesn't have the experience yet. Up until the last 20 games, you'd be lucky to get more than 1 assist from Buddy. Mason has tunnel vision, but he's our backup PG anyways. Jackson's passing instincts haven't translated over from UNC.
Maybe it's just me, but I would much rather find our blue chip prospect or franchise player, and then build around him. The identity would then be formed. You can't force and identity. I remember Doug talked about this a lot throughout the season. He talked about letting the kings find their own identity throughout the season. He said it's why Coach experienced with so many different lineups with this young team.
Of course, when you're picking at #7 vs #1, your options become severely limited. But I still say BPA regardless of skill set fit, positional fit, etc. I just think you need to have your core established and figured out before you can get too picky on who fits where. We haven't seen any other teams follow this strategy of that picking "skill fits". GS is an example of having passers and ball movers everywhere, but they didn't go into the 2010, 2011, or 2012 drafts with that in mind. With the idea that they need to draft good passers to fit their offense. Udoh was an average passer at best. Klay and Barnes were never really much passers in college. GS didn't establish themselves as a ball moving team until after Curry became Curry, Dray became Dray, and they signed Iggy.
Even in their recent drafts, they haven't completely drafted skill fits. Kevon Looney, Patrick McCaw, Damien Jones, and Jordan Bell. Only average passer I see is McCaw. These weren't high draft picks, but this is a finals contending team that didn't even draft for skill fit..so why should we? Warriors didn't do it in 2010/2011/2012, and they don't do it now.
SacTownKid
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The biggest knock for the Kings drafting Bamba is time. He will take time and it's likely a pick you can't put into perspective for a few years.
Fit is important and I can see a few players with fit concerns in this draft, I just don't see it with Bamba. If he can become a face up big man there is enough versatility to not muck things up rotation wise even if you keep the team as is. I can see many reasons why you look the other way from a PG like Young or Sexton because there is no way Fox and another PG works out long term. We've seen that already with the attempts made to work Hill and Fox into the lineup. Fox and Bamba in the pick and roll would be no different than with Willie IMO. Bamba being able to pop all the way out to the 3 point line would be an ideal fit but even if that 3 point shot never becomes a staple for him he's going to be dangerous in the mid range and on the roll. Him showing court vision just makes it that much more likely he's a higher potential replacement for Willie down the road.
I am a big fan of Kevin Knox for Sacramento but if the Kings don't jump up passing on Bamba is a mistake. The risk is worth it. If the Kings do jump up Bamba should still be considered.
Sactown ExPat
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The biggest knock on Bamba is that if his wingspan were 7’3” instead of 7’9” we wouldn’t even be talking about him. Meaning, he’s not that great a basketball prospect right now. Basketball is a skills game. This is not the NFL. And people treat his low BBIQ on offense as if he is some basketball neophyte...he grew up in NYC with two older brothers that played college ball. He’s way behind where one would expect him to be.
Bamba is a poor investment of our draft capital due to the high volatility. And, as bajaden points out, he’s a bad pick even if he is good because of poor fit. Bamba is exactly the kind of top 10 pick that poorly run organizations make.
Yeah, I see many draft boards have Bamba going top 5.
Orlando seems to be the team that may go PG in which case assuming there are no changes in draft order that's where Young could go.
So if they both go before 7 recon we are looking at who doesn't go top 6 between JJJ, Porter Jr, Carter, Mikal Bridges. Not a bad scenario.
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ParniValjak
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Peja for starters!
Yeah and if LeBron were 6'4" and 200 lbs he wouldn't be the greatest player in the world. What use is a hypothetical that can't ever be true? We're not judging Bamba on how good he would be if he had a 7'3" wingspan we're judging him on how good he is now. Why make this more complicated than it is?
He's also not just a big guy who gets a block here and there, his block rate is in the elite range for any prospect. Yes of course the wingspan helps there but that's how long his arms are. They're not going to shrink. Block rates translate pretty well to the next level. Especially when you're talking about a guy who can put his hands higher than any other player in the league without jumping. Crazy bouncy athleticism is often a liability for shotblockers because they jump themselves into fouls or they fall for a pump fake and jump out of position. There isn't a single player in the league who can jump high enough to get the ball over Bamba's outstretched arm. Not a one. Which means if he stays disciplined he is as good a bet as there is to lock down open shots under the basket.
Nice video and I do like Bamba, but I do recall seeing a similar video of WCS knocking down like 20+ 3's in a workout before his draft too.
So, we need to take these workout videos with a grain of salt.
Cauley-Stein didn't even attempt a single three in 3 seasons at Kentucky. Bamba went 14 for 51 in one season at Texas. These two situations are not directly comparable. It made no sense to talk about WCS having a three point jumper until he showed he can knock them down in a game. It makes some sense to talk about Bamba having a three point jumper. Yeah the overall numbers are bad but he actually has enough confidence to use it in games and he had a really nice stretch in conference play when he was knocking down about 1 a game for a month and a half. That's much better than Skal as well (0 for 2) who hasn't shot a lot of threes with the Kings but he's made the few he has taken at a respectable 35%. I think if the stroke looks good and he's knocking them down in practice and he's not afraid to take them in games and he's actually had some success already (7 for 17 over 9 games in January) that is a part of his game we can expect him to continue to develop and improve on.
Sometimes I just shake my head trying to figure out what we're even doing here. Would some of you like Bamba better if he were crossing the ball over and drilling fadeaways? Yeah it would be nice if he had Doncic's skill level to go with his unbelievable physical tools. I'd love to see another Giannis Antetokounmpo. But not every player needs to be a guard. Centers are judged on a different standard and if you stop looking at all the things Bamba isn't and just appreciate what he is, he's a very good basketball player on his own way. It would be nice to have a guy on the floor who is going to come down with almost every defensive board and contest every shot inside of 10 feet.
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kingsboi
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That about sums it up for me right there. Who cares if Bamba takes a while to pan out? His ceiling is the reason he is being drafted in the top 10 anyway and what's the rush anyway? It's not as if the Kings have a franchise player on their roster that they have to appease and start building a winner...so long as Vivek doesn't pressure Vlade into trying to build a winner on the fly, patience is simply the game the Kings have to play right now unless they trade for a star player with their young assets, which isn't out of the question either.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Couldn't have said it better. The thing is he's shows the possibility of having some of those skills. That could be a negative for some people I'd bet, for me I see plenty of bigs making a decent run doing it so it's another reason why he'd be worth the gamble.
bajaden
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Believe what you want, but at some point you have to have a plan, and that plan has to include what kind of team you want to build. Now if you have one of the top two picks in the draft and the players available are so talented, that you can't pass, then you have to draft said player, because if you later decide what he brings doesn't work, you have a valuable asset you can trade for a player that does fit. I'm not suggesting you pass on a possible star. But sometimes the supposed star just doesn't pan out. Okafor is a prime example. You might throw Noel in there as well.
However when your picking at number 9, where there are talented, and multiple players of equal, but different talent, I think you pick the player that best fits the system your running. If that happens to be a position of need, so much the better. On the other hand, when your picking at the bottom of the first round, or in the 2nd round, I think you take a flyer on who you think has the best chance of becoming a rotational player. I think that's what the Warriors do. I thought that McCaw and Bell were good choices for them. They don't ask much from their center other than to play defense and rebound. And of course McCaw has PG skills, and he developed much faster than I thought he would.
My point is, not every player you choose is going to work out, especially if he's a lower pick where the odds get worse. Let me ask you a question. When was the last time a team with a dominate center won a championship? I'm not saying having a dominate center is a bad thing, but I'am saying having one isn't necessity to win a championship. Having a star is, and if you can have two, so much the better. The problem on this forum is that when we draft a player, we expect him to be a star right out of the gate. That's a rare occurrence. Cousins who is a star now, wasn't one his first or 2nd, or 3rd year in the league. He was a good player, but not a star.
Point being that we could already have our star, we just don't know who it or they are. I'm not implying that we do, but only that it's a possibility. In a couple of years Fox, or Giles, or both could be considered stars in the league. You can argue that you just don't see it, and I could counter argue, but neither of us can prove it one way or the other. We have to wait and see. Or should wait and see. Of course I think you always hope for a home run, but there are never guarantee's even with the first pick in the draft. At the end of the day you would like all the pieces to compliment each other.
On paper, when we had IT, Gay, and Cousins, it appeared we had enough talent to make the playoffs. But we didn't. We didn't even come close. Why? There are multiple reasons of course, but one of them is that those three players didn't compliment each other. None of them made the other better. IT was a PG that spent more time looking for his own shot. Gay was strictly an isolation player that could spot up. Cuz was the best player, and a good passer, but if he passed the ball to either of them, he probably didn't get it back. Teams that are unselfish, and move the ball are usually the teams you see in the winner circle. At worse, their competing for a championship.
I've been watching NBA basketball for a very long time, and one thing I know. The common trait that almost every great team had, along with a star or two, is ball movement. They had skilled players that fit together beautifully. Sometimes one, or even two of the players on those teams had to sacrifice part of their game for the sake of the others. And example would be Wilt Chamberlain when he came to the Lakers, but it ended up with a championship. In some cases it can happen almost overnight. But in most cases, it takes some time.
I agree with a lot of what you're saying. In the end, I think the Kings are just in a really shaky position. We're without a clear cut franchise player after year 1 of the rebuild. From 1 season, what we know is that Fox, Bogdan, Buddy, and WCS are guaranteed future solid NBA players. As a result, maybe they're a part of our "young core". However, this core is young in terms of NBA experience, not age. I also think Bogdan, WCS, Buddy, and Fox are all at different developmental stages in their career. There's a considerably large gap between Bogdan and Fox. This isn't anyone's fault, it's just where both players stand.
With all of this in mind, we're heading to year 2 of the rebuild. Unfortunately, the Kings stand 7th overall in the lotto.
Instead of debating whether or not we'd rather draft a 20-10 guy vs. 17-5-5, we're debating on whether or not we should risk a gamble on an athletic raw 7fter with more bust potential than most projected in the top 10.
The Kings always find this way of putting themselves in horrible scenarios. Whether it be passing up on Damian Lillard because you're worried Jason Thompson won't resign. Or trading down from Kemba Walker to Jiimmer Fredette because you wanted John Salmons. Or maybe because your meddling owner wants the "shoots like Curry, big like Klay" Stauskas.
This year, the Kings absolutely can't afford to miss at #7. We're without a draft pick next year. We can't afford to draft a Papagiannis/Richardson or even a Justin Jackson....a 22yearold rookie who struggled to contribute on a losing team.
I agree with you. At some point, we need a plan. To be honest with you, I don't know that this FO has a plan..especially one that they're willing to follow all the way through. That's my biggest concern of all. This is the same team who went all-out on 32yearold George Hill in a rebuilding year, only to dump his contract 1/2 way through the season. What was the point of that signing? Mentorship? If so, why did we cut him 1/2 way through his first season with Fox? Or if we only wanted him here until Fox was ready, then why did we sign him to a 3 year deal in the first place?
It's a hard situation for the Kings. All I know is that we have to absolutely draft at least a good starter with this pick. Anything else, and I think it would legitimately be my last straw with the Kings. The Kings put themselves in this position in the first place. I don't care if you're pro-tank or not, but the Kings won just as many games as they did this year as they did with Cousins during our "playoff run". It's pretty obvious that our plan this year did not involve getting a high draft pick. at least we know it's the only part of the plan they'll be sticking with in 2019.
Sactown ExPat
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Interesting. I think the plan is pretty obvious—depending on how the draft shakes out we chase one of this year’s RFAs using WCS as bait in a sign and trade. And the main goal is to be an “insert superstar” destination in 2019. The idea is to have a ball movement offense established, with a lot of young guys that are fun to play with, share the ball, and on the way up. We’ll hope to sell a young superstar on the opportunity of being handed the keys to that fine-tuned vehicle and becoming the biggest name in India (HUGE marketing/branding potential). We have a great coach, a nice off-court lifestyle, and a city/team that celebrates and takes care of its current and former players. Will it lure in a big star? We’ll see—but it’ll be worth considering.
Blob
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Bamba is far ahead of Gobert at same age - who happens to anchor the best defense in NBA and probable DPOY whose team just advanced to Round 2 -- so there's that. Bamba is coordinated with smooth shooting touch and nice footwork. His reaction time is solid. His lateral mobility is nice. These are predicators of success. I think he's better than Willie from Day One.
You have to be able to move your feet as a big not bite on pump fakes absorb contact and not fall over yourself when the game speeds up. Bamba can do this. Just out of curiosity, why do you need to be "excited" by Bamba in contrast to unexciting prospect like "Mikail Bridges, Porter and even Young"?
Bridges cannot put the ball on the floor more than one to two dribbles. He has no juke moves or separation ability. Is this what we want? A guy with no ability to create his own offense? His defensive instincts are modest. He disappeared in the tournament. He's a spot shooter with mediocre speed.
Bridges has long arms. So does Bruno. This qualification of a prospect based on wingspan is lazy. Bridges is the kind of "system player" our visionless GM and coach will probably target and oversell if the pick comes to fruition but there is far more to be excited about with Bamba.
If Bamba falls to us at #7, if theoretically, that is where we pick, it will be a beautiful day for the Kings and their fans. I would love to add Mo Bamba to this team and ship Willie to wherever. Mo Bamba has the "it factor", By it factor I mean "get that weak it outta here!"
Why any team would choose Young over Sexton is analogous to why anyone would choose Lonzo Bust over Donovan. Young cannot guard anyone. He's a below average athlete with propensity to launch low percentage shots. Sexton can guard two positions. Watch Sexton and tell me he does not have similarity to Kyrie Irving.
Kyrie has takeover get-out-of-my-way mentality. So does Sexton. Sexton is an assassin. He's an elite level competitor. There's Donovan-like skill there too. Its clear as day.
Young looks unhealthy to me. He's scrawny. He's weak. He's losing his hair. He's a nifty NCAA player and too small to excel in the NBA. He's a mid first rounder at best with back-up potential once he fills out. All this is obvious!
On Porter Jr: He has legs as thin as my arms and I am not Braun Strowman. Porter Jr. did nothing as a collegiate. Porter Jr is two years away from being Mario Hezonja. Porter Jr relies on his shot to excel and he's not a great shooter. He's a straight-line driver. With his height and high center of gravity he is going to expose his dribble to get picked. And who knows if his surgically repaired back will hold up or give out.
At #7 we have a fair to good chance to land Mo Bamba, Miles Brides or Collin Sexton. These are the guys who should be on radar and the top of our draft board. I don't think Vlade will target these guys which is why I am more disillusioned with this team than I have been in 20 years.
Returning in 2018-19 with Willie and Randolph as rotational players or starters is a sad proposition. The Thunder got bounced because the Jazz spent the series exposing Melo in the pick and roll. The Kings were victimized all year will Z-Bud put into the pick and roll by opponents who knew they could get whatever they wanted through switch or non-switch advantage. This is what the Jazz did to the Thunder.
So to address this we need players who have switch-ability. Bums like Young and Porter would only make our bad defense worse if indeed that is even possible. This would make you happy?! Incredulous! Mikail would not hurt our defense but why would we take him when Miles is the better player defensively AND offensively?!
Then you have the possibility of Bamba and Sexton too. I am afraid we are going to screw this draft up and it is because I think Vlade will see the draft as you do....with inauspicious blinders on, buying the hype instead of the reality.
Blob
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Ha-ha. I don't think so.
I think the only way to get a "superstar" in 2019 is to
- already have another star on the roster.
- Pray Harry Giles is legit. Talking at least 15pts 9rebs 2asts+ on 50%.
- Hope Fox takes a huge step and nearly doubles his scoring production 18ppg.
- trade up in the draft using Bogdan/Buddy for a bluechip prospect
- WIN AT LEAST 40 GAMES
Also, who are these "superstars" you're talking about? Only stars? I see are Kemba, Klay, Middleton, and Kawhi. We have no shot at any of the RFAs. None of those teams will let their young rising players leave.
biltalent
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I'm hopeful Miles is on the King's radar. Joerger is going to love his toughness. He definitely thinks that's what the team lacks. In the coaching clinic that aired last year, he said he thinks the next step in the NBA is the big physical wing that takes advantage inside of all the stretch player. Miles could be that guy. He is also ready from day-one and that will please the coach.
Vlade will like Miles' character in interviews and approve his mature decision to return to college last year and get ready. I'm sure Miles was an interesting option for the Kings at #10 last year until he decided to return. Vlade also showed this year that he sees that the Kings need a 3/4 by bringing in Caboclo and Hayes. So I'm positive Miles will be considered and discussed in the draft war room.
I'd definitely like Miles on the Kings. I think he gets underrated this year. He was a top 10 guy last year already and showed this year that he has the aptitude to develop. He has improved what scouts critized, mostly his perimeter skill. His overall mechanis and the pull-up is improved. His decision-making and Ast/TO ratio are better. He is not longer an undersized 4 but a 3 that has the strength to slide to the 4. That is a huge development.
As Sam Vecenie likes to say, he is a conncecting player. You can start him at the 3 and slide him to the 4 to close games and in the playoffs. A Fox-Buddy-Bogdan-Miles-Giles lineup could be a really good closing lineup in a couple years. You got 5 guys that can make plays for each other and switch defensively.
If everything works out we won’t have a place for Kemba, Middleton, or Klay as they’d play positions held by our core pieces Buddy, Fox, and Bogdan. Kawhi ain’t coming here his uncle ****ed up his head he’s going to a big market
I can honestly see Giles getting 15-9-2 with good defense. Running the floor, offensive boards, and pick and roll should give him 10-12 points as it is than add in he has a decent post game vs a small player.
Look at WCS he’s at 13-7-2 right now and I think Giles will be better in 2-3 years
sactowndog
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The problem is none of us can really judge fit because we have no clue about Giles game. Can he rebound? Can he stretch the floor?
If rumors are true Giles will be a bigger part of our front court than WCS. I could easily see a draft pick, Giles, Hezonja starting front court next year with KK coming off the bench and WCS/Skal/JJ fighting for minutes.
He grabbed 13 rebounds and some change per40 in college. Basically the same rate as Carter, Ayton and Bagley.
The positive thing is he did that while more than likely being more ground bound and less athletic than he is right now after rehabbing.
The negative is that it's a smaller sample size for him. He only played about 11 or 12min per game while those other guys played more minutes so their numbers are more concrete than his are.
I don't think he's going to be stretching the floor any time soon. The only knock I've heard on him so far has been his shooting. Not that it means a whole lot but in the short clips that have been posted in practice with Skal, WCS and Giles all shooting, Giles missed a lot more shots than the other two. Again that probably means absolutely nothing but coupled with the comments about his shooting, it makes me not get my hopes up for him coming out shooting like Skal or even WCS right now. I would expect his rebounding and shot blocking to translate first.
jcassio
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The Big Nasty?Peja for starters!
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