Maloofs have trademarked domain name for Los Angeles Royals.com(something like that)
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Not to mention the NHL Panthers and NFL Panthers. In fact, the Carolina Panthers entered the NFL just 2 years after the Florida Panthers and as far as I know, they never made a stink about it.
As far as Anaheim is concerned, the official legal statement is that any team that plays in the Honda Center has to have Anaheim "in front of the team name and have Anaheim as it's sole geographic something or another". So not only do they not want it to be the Los Angeles Kings of Anaheim but they don't even want to see "Mighty Kings of Anaheim" which was a joke when the NHL team used to be the "Mighty Ducks of Anaheim".
As far as Anaheim is concerned, the official legal statement is that any team that plays in the Honda Center has to have Anaheim "in front of the team name and have Anaheim as it's sole geographic something or another". So not only do they not want it to be the Los Angeles Kings of Anaheim but they don't even want to see "Mighty Kings of Anaheim" which was a joke when the NHL team used to be the "Mighty Ducks of Anaheim".
I don't understand why any Kings fan wouldn't hate them. They were never very good owners to begin with. They just got lucky by buying a team that was on the rise. Then, after the Webber injury, they did everything possible to run the team into the ground with their high ticket prices, coaching carousel, and perennially bad team.
They also have never been the patient, loyal owners some folks make them out to be. They helped sink past arena efforts with their ridiculous demands and wanting total control.
Now that their financial empire is crumbling they’re looking for a quick fix and are willing to walk out on the mayor, the fans, and the city of Sacramento to get it.
Any Sacramento Kings fans should curse the day they bought the team because it was the beginning of the end. Had local investors or the city bought the Kings we could have kept them local. But no, the Vegas playboys with their daddy’s money bought them and now we’re screwed.
They also have never been the patient, loyal owners some folks make them out to be. They helped sink past arena efforts with their ridiculous demands and wanting total control.
Now that their financial empire is crumbling they’re looking for a quick fix and are willing to walk out on the mayor, the fans, and the city of Sacramento to get it.
Any Sacramento Kings fans should curse the day they bought the team because it was the beginning of the end. Had local investors or the city bought the Kings we could have kept them local. But no, the Vegas playboys with their daddy’s money bought them and now we’re screwed.
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Somebody can delete this if I haven't gone through the proper channels but this little tidbit from the paper struck a cord with me today:
This was my problem with the Maloofs and how they ran the team. Once it was clear about 5 years ago that they weren't the same team we were still being charged exorbitant prices for our seats with no real benefit to do so. I am a small business owner myself and had to give up my tickets as I was actually losing money on the deal and saw no tangible benefits....it was not until the last year or 2 that they finally wised up and realized their product sucked and they needed to do something but it's probably too late.
I do recall back when the ill-fated Measure Q & R(I think I am correct in that) failed the Maloofs basically indicated they could not support it because they weren't sure it would ever be built....as we now know they were probably right since the original owner now is in bankruptcy and I am not sure it will ever be built(I drive by the railyards probably twice a week and don't see much). But, another issue was the Maloofs thought they can build this 500 million dollar palace and people would be lining up for tickets/boxes/club seats but that just wouldn't be the case. Most of the people I sat next to in the upper deck were just plain old people who loved the team.
Not to be hypocritical about this but what strikes me as funny is that you hear the local talking heads mention we don't have the "corporate dollars" to support a team but if I recall after spending years looking at the boxes from my upper level seats I remenber seeing these names.....Coca Cola, Pepsi, AT&T and numerous other national companies. While they are not located in Sacramento they still have a presence in Northern California and, believe or not, still have people that sell their product up here and entertain guests. If they bought a box in a ****hole like ARCO they would certainly do so in a new arena.
With that said.......if the Maloofs move I wish them nothing but continued misery and I would really like to see the Palms go bankrupt. You stuck it to me with ticket prices when you had a ****ty product so take some of your own medicine.
As another parting shot I would like to stick it to Robbie Waters(has your son been indicted yet???) and the other worthless City Council members and Heather Fargo as well. I truly think that if we would have had Kevin Johnson as Mayor 5 years ago we wouldn't be having this discussion right now....he gets it.
The Kings have lost their mojo," said Andy Dolich, former president of business operations with the NBA's Memphis Grizzlies. "In a small market ... you have to be hitting on every possible cylinder, all of the time."
Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/03/16/3478702/kings-finances-faltered-as-nba.html#ixzz1Gol3lZ5E
Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/03/16/3478702/kings-finances-faltered-as-nba.html#ixzz1Gol3lZ5E
This was my problem with the Maloofs and how they ran the team. Once it was clear about 5 years ago that they weren't the same team we were still being charged exorbitant prices for our seats with no real benefit to do so. I am a small business owner myself and had to give up my tickets as I was actually losing money on the deal and saw no tangible benefits....it was not until the last year or 2 that they finally wised up and realized their product sucked and they needed to do something but it's probably too late.
I do recall back when the ill-fated Measure Q & R(I think I am correct in that) failed the Maloofs basically indicated they could not support it because they weren't sure it would ever be built....as we now know they were probably right since the original owner now is in bankruptcy and I am not sure it will ever be built(I drive by the railyards probably twice a week and don't see much). But, another issue was the Maloofs thought they can build this 500 million dollar palace and people would be lining up for tickets/boxes/club seats but that just wouldn't be the case. Most of the people I sat next to in the upper deck were just plain old people who loved the team.
Not to be hypocritical about this but what strikes me as funny is that you hear the local talking heads mention we don't have the "corporate dollars" to support a team but if I recall after spending years looking at the boxes from my upper level seats I remenber seeing these names.....Coca Cola, Pepsi, AT&T and numerous other national companies. While they are not located in Sacramento they still have a presence in Northern California and, believe or not, still have people that sell their product up here and entertain guests. If they bought a box in a ****hole like ARCO they would certainly do so in a new arena.
With that said.......if the Maloofs move I wish them nothing but continued misery and I would really like to see the Palms go bankrupt. You stuck it to me with ticket prices when you had a ****ty product so take some of your own medicine.
As another parting shot I would like to stick it to Robbie Waters(has your son been indicted yet???) and the other worthless City Council members and Heather Fargo as well. I truly think that if we would have had Kevin Johnson as Mayor 5 years ago we wouldn't be having this discussion right now....he gets it.
Most of your arguement is opinion, emotion, and assumption. They have not moved, nor is it a done deal, yet you seem pretty sure they're just waiting to sign the papers in mid april, to milk everything left out of the fanbase. Give me a break. And yes, that's opinion and emotion, not a fact.
You're blaming them for talking to other cities, and considering other options, after 14 years of banging their heads against the wall? Do you understand business 101? If you're not in a profitable situation, you will go under. Staying without an arena, which the city had 14 years to build, is not a profitable situation, nor a smart business decision.
You keep blaming the Maloofs, and acting like they are the majority of the problem. They aren't, it's the city. If the city wants the Kings, it's the city's responsibility to build an arena. Not the Maloofs. The city dropped the ball, not the maloofs. They've been looking to take care of this franchise, which is more then you can say the city has done when it comes to looking after it's own. You think it's a smart decision by the city to ignore the economic impact a new sports and entertainment complex could have? You think it's a smart decision for the city to ignore for years, and play dumb to the fact the city could lose upwards of $100M per year, which the Kings pump into the local economy? You think it's smart of the city to ignore the tax revenue generated by visiting teams and shows, which goes to education and law enforcement, among other things?
Your problem is you think this is a Maloof problem. It's not. It's seperate from the city, and teh fact the city as a whole will be worse of economically without the Kings. The Kings play 41 times a year at home, give or take a few games. Do you know how much the city could make if they properly utilized a publicly funded arena the other 330 days per year? Well, now KJ is talking about building an arena without a tenant, or nba team, with your tax dollars. Does that make you feel better? Spending $400-500M of your tax dollars on an arena without a team? So now the city wants to build, and wants to spend, but could have done it all along. Has nothing to do with the maloofs. but the city's timing has been horrible, as usual. The city council lacked the forsight to see how much better of an investment it would have been to build an arena during the last 14 years, but they waited, and waited, and waited, and acted like this day would never come. But now they're willing to spend, and throw money into a far worse investment, and arena without a team.
You can blame the Maloofs all you want. I will continue to say it's rediculous. How much the Sac contribute to the original building of Arco? $0. How much did Sac contribute to the Rivercats arena? $0. You just appear pissed that this happened so suddenly for you. You didn't expect it. You didn't think it was possible. I'm sure many officials who have worked for the city over the past 14 years share that same train of thought.
But this all boils down to the city not taking responsibility for it's own economy, and financial outlook. If the Kings move, the city will lose $500M over the next 5 years. That will effect the entire community. That's solely on the city for not realizing the gravity of the situation, or planning ahead, for well over a decade.
You're blaming them for talking to other cities, and considering other options, after 14 years of banging their heads against the wall? Do you understand business 101? If you're not in a profitable situation, you will go under. Staying without an arena, which the city had 14 years to build, is not a profitable situation, nor a smart business decision.
You keep blaming the Maloofs, and acting like they are the majority of the problem. They aren't, it's the city. If the city wants the Kings, it's the city's responsibility to build an arena. Not the Maloofs. The city dropped the ball, not the maloofs. They've been looking to take care of this franchise, which is more then you can say the city has done when it comes to looking after it's own. You think it's a smart decision by the city to ignore the economic impact a new sports and entertainment complex could have? You think it's a smart decision for the city to ignore for years, and play dumb to the fact the city could lose upwards of $100M per year, which the Kings pump into the local economy? You think it's smart of the city to ignore the tax revenue generated by visiting teams and shows, which goes to education and law enforcement, among other things?
Your problem is you think this is a Maloof problem. It's not. It's seperate from the city, and teh fact the city as a whole will be worse of economically without the Kings. The Kings play 41 times a year at home, give or take a few games. Do you know how much the city could make if they properly utilized a publicly funded arena the other 330 days per year? Well, now KJ is talking about building an arena without a tenant, or nba team, with your tax dollars. Does that make you feel better? Spending $400-500M of your tax dollars on an arena without a team? So now the city wants to build, and wants to spend, but could have done it all along. Has nothing to do with the maloofs. but the city's timing has been horrible, as usual. The city council lacked the forsight to see how much better of an investment it would have been to build an arena during the last 14 years, but they waited, and waited, and waited, and acted like this day would never come. But now they're willing to spend, and throw money into a far worse investment, and arena without a team.
You can blame the Maloofs all you want. I will continue to say it's rediculous. How much the Sac contribute to the original building of Arco? $0. How much did Sac contribute to the Rivercats arena? $0. You just appear pissed that this happened so suddenly for you. You didn't expect it. You didn't think it was possible. I'm sure many officials who have worked for the city over the past 14 years share that same train of thought.
But this all boils down to the city not taking responsibility for it's own economy, and financial outlook. If the Kings move, the city will lose $500M over the next 5 years. That will effect the entire community. That's solely on the city for not realizing the gravity of the situation, or planning ahead, for well over a decade.
I'm not really a Maloof hater. Sort of just neutral towards them but my biggest beef is that this past season, they kept saying that their priority was to make it work in Sacramento. I always felt that it had more to do with the fact that there was no real good options outside of Sacramento but gave them the benefit until they actually moved.
When the Lakers inked that massive Time Warner deal, we saw the Anaheim thing fast forward like no other due to the new opening with FSW. To me, that just makes it sound like the priority had nothing to do with Sacramento but instead, the best financial deal.
When the Lakers inked that massive Time Warner deal, we saw the Anaheim thing fast forward like no other due to the new opening with FSW. To me, that just makes it sound like the priority had nothing to do with Sacramento but instead, the best financial deal.
No it wasn't. Most of what they said is true and well documented. The city tried to build an arena before and The Maloofs stopped cooperating because they couldn't have total control of it! What was the city supposed to do, kiss their a-$$ and give them complete control of an arena they didn't even pay for? Get real. The Maloofs share just as much blame for an arena not getting built as the city does.
No they don't. They have an arena waiting for them in Anaheim. Does Sac have a replacement for the Kings and teh $100M per? The Maloofs have done, and are doing, what is needed for the franchise to be successful. Has the city done what is needed for it to be successful, and took look after it's own citizens? No.
Part of fault is how everything will turn out down the road. The repercussions. Who's better off? The Maloofs, in a larger market, with an arena already built, and possibly a $100M loan on the table, or the city losing a team, no new arena, and $500M less for the local economy over the next 5 years? Who really lacked the forsight, and who will suffer more? The Maloofs will be just fine. Can't say the same for Sac, and that has nothing to do with the maloofs.
Part of fault is how everything will turn out down the road. The repercussions. Who's better off? The Maloofs, in a larger market, with an arena already built, and possibly a $100M loan on the table, or the city losing a team, no new arena, and $500M less for the local economy over the next 5 years? Who really lacked the forsight, and who will suffer more? The Maloofs will be just fine. Can't say the same for Sac, and that has nothing to do with the maloofs.
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They're looking for a quick buck because they're going broke. A more stable owner would have been able to work with the city until something gets done and not jump ship the first time another city dangles an apple in their face. It sets a very poor precedent in my opinion if owners are able to just pack up and move to greener pastures every time things don't go their way. If that's going to be the business model, small markets really are doomed.
Just my .02 cents but I am not sure the Maloofs will be better off and it is a huge gamble for them(no pun intended) to move to a market that more than likely will not support them as much as the current one does(the last few years not withstanding). I appreciate the article the Sac Business Journal provided about the financial impact but you need to stop throwing around the 100 million dollard annual revenue figure out. It's all based on projections and conjecture and although I really do think the impact will be really big on the region I don't think it is quite as bad as they would let you think.
Uh, a more stable owner would already have scrammed years ago. I love how Sacramento fans are trying to paint this as this sudden incredible defection by the Maloofs rather than a dozen years of bungling incompetence by their representatives. I was born and raised (mostl) in Sacramento. Graduated high school in Sacramento. Still have family in Sacramento. And if I owned the team, or was advising the people who did, I would have said screw this years ago.
Sacramento long acted like a spoiled child in this thing, like somebody who was owed something (did the Maloofs as well? Possibly. But they weren't the ones with somethign to lose). On the way potentially out it seems its going to be the same. Oh poor us, its so unfair. Except its not so unfair when you screw it up. Go ahead, neglect your wife, verbally abuse her. Then come crying to me about what a female dog she is when she moves out. See what my response is. I sincerely hope you can somehow get her back and salvage things, but you haven't got a prayer in the world until you take a look in the mirror. The city's sins are not the fan's sins (aside from the empty arena). But they are also not the Maloof's sins.
Sacramento long acted like a spoiled child in this thing, like somebody who was owed something (did the Maloofs as well? Possibly. But they weren't the ones with somethign to lose). On the way potentially out it seems its going to be the same. Oh poor us, its so unfair. Except its not so unfair when you screw it up. Go ahead, neglect your wife, verbally abuse her. Then come crying to me about what a female dog she is when she moves out. See what my response is. I sincerely hope you can somehow get her back and salvage things, but you haven't got a prayer in the world until you take a look in the mirror. The city's sins are not the fan's sins (aside from the empty arena). But they are also not the Maloof's sins.
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I love how Maloof apologists are rewriting history and ignoring the fact that the Maloofs killed an arena effort in the past with their ridiculous demands. They wanted their cake and eat it too, an arena built for them that they would then control. Heck, they didn't even want competing food businesses within 1000 feet of the place! How anyone could defend these spoiled control freaks in beyond me. I'm not saying Sacramento is without blame, but to ignore the role the Maloofs played in getting where we are is absurd.
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By the way....that 100 million dollar loan reminds me of when I used to get Visa apps in the mail after college wanting me to apply for credit. I would get one, spend my max, and then get one for a higher credit limit so I can spend more and not have to pay the other one off. Eventually, you are going to have to pay it off and as of now the Maloofs have not. The original loan from 1997 was 73 million and as of 2010 it was down to 68 million. It has also been documented elsewhere that the Kings pay the City about 5 Million per year as payments on this loan so they are pretty much treading water and making payments(like most of us with a mortgage over our head!!) I did also find it interesting in the article today that the Kings rake in over a 100 million in revenue but I don't think that takes into account what the Maloofs make as owners of the arena for concerts, etc.... I have read in other articles that thay are actually in the black and have made money with the Kings in the past 2 years. They also received about 4 million in revenue from their payments from other clubs paying the luxury tax last season(just google it as I am to lazy to link it).
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I won't stop throwing that figure around. It's been ignored by the city, and the Maloofs bashers, for far too long. Is it a little high? Maybe. But what if it's just $75M or $50M per year. Does that make you feel better? Those numbers have been at the fingertips of city officials for over a decade, and they chose to ignore it. They could have done a study, or multiple studies to figure out just what the economical impact would be.
Blame the city for not taking that figure more seriously. Not me.
Blame the city for not taking that figure more seriously. Not me.
By the way....I am on your side.
There is a ton of blame to go around and as usual in any negotiation there is a middle ground. The City wants to pay nothing and the Maloofs want Staples Center in Downtown Sac and somewhere in the middle is where it should be settled. Unfortunately, until now( with KJ as Mayor), we did not have someone that could make this happen and "elected" officials really had no vision for the greater good and only looked at their little District to make sure they were okay and got re-elected.
I lived in San Jose when they were trying to get an arena built in the late 80's and they had the same issues. It took a community group along with a Mayor with vision to get the issue passed and it seems as though that is what we have now but it may be too late. What is now HP Pavilion passed on the ballot with about 54% of the vote in 1988 a full 5 years before the Sharks played in the arena and I can gaurantee you it would pass with about 90% of the voters now since the downtown is booming on arena event nights, not just Sharks games.
There is a ton of blame to go around and as usual in any negotiation there is a middle ground. The City wants to pay nothing and the Maloofs want Staples Center in Downtown Sac and somewhere in the middle is where it should be settled. Unfortunately, until now( with KJ as Mayor), we did not have someone that could make this happen and "elected" officials really had no vision for the greater good and only looked at their little District to make sure they were okay and got re-elected.
I lived in San Jose when they were trying to get an arena built in the late 80's and they had the same issues. It took a community group along with a Mayor with vision to get the issue passed and it seems as though that is what we have now but it may be too late. What is now HP Pavilion passed on the ballot with about 54% of the vote in 1988 a full 5 years before the Sharks played in the arena and I can gaurantee you it would pass with about 90% of the voters now since the downtown is booming on arena event nights, not just Sharks games.
The kings and the maloofs are a big reason why what companies we do have in town did not want to advertise with the kings.
For the longest time the kings were pouring coke delivered by a third party because the kings made such ridiculous demands that both Pepsi and Coke told them forget it. We don't need to have our name plastered all over your arena and lose money pouring soda just to be associated with the kings. They ran a bad business. They chased away sponsors. They chased away the fans by putting a bad product on the court. They lost their fathers money. They are broke which in turn doomed sacramento, even if we were to build a new arena.
So all you maloof apologists can get off their tip. They own at least 50% of what is happening now.
And maybe cut sac a little slack.
The same thing is happening in San Diego with the chargers. Oakland with the A's and Raiders. LA lost the Rams and the Raiders cause they would not build a new stadium. And last but not least San Francisco cannot get a new stadium built for the 49ers, a franchise with a storied past. SF absolutely loves the niners and yet every proposal that goes before the voters gets shot down. Maybe its a California thing so give small sacramento a break.
For the longest time the kings were pouring coke delivered by a third party because the kings made such ridiculous demands that both Pepsi and Coke told them forget it. We don't need to have our name plastered all over your arena and lose money pouring soda just to be associated with the kings. They ran a bad business. They chased away sponsors. They chased away the fans by putting a bad product on the court. They lost their fathers money. They are broke which in turn doomed sacramento, even if we were to build a new arena.
So all you maloof apologists can get off their tip. They own at least 50% of what is happening now.
And maybe cut sac a little slack.
The same thing is happening in San Diego with the chargers. Oakland with the A's and Raiders. LA lost the Rams and the Raiders cause they would not build a new stadium. And last but not least San Francisco cannot get a new stadium built for the 49ers, a franchise with a storied past. SF absolutely loves the niners and yet every proposal that goes before the voters gets shot down. Maybe its a California thing so give small sacramento a break.
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You can throw it around, but most of the media has already picked up that the loan was not going to be part of the deal. Mostly because the security for such a loan would have risked losing ownership in the team to Samueli. Seriously, do the math and figure out why Samueli would offer to loan such a huge amount to just fill 40 odd dates in an already booked busy arena at that time of year? Samueli's public goal has been to buy an NBA team - period. His loan was a way of grabbing the Kings ownership. Trust this, his goal isn't to have another pro team in Anaheim so that he can have them competing against his Ducks for entertainment dollars. He didn't just suddenly change his tune and become charitable about the whole deal.
well hopefully they will start getting more national tv games when they start winning next year. lol. I knew i shouldnt have gotten my hopes up. Damn....
Yep. Think about it from Samueli's point of view. He has the Ducks and manages the Honda Center. He is currently getting all there revenue from events. The suites are already sold. So now add an NBA team for 43 nights. I'm sure its going to bump some events that they normally have planned. They aren't getting any more revenue from the suites unless they plan to charge them more money. I'm sure this is one of the areas they are negotiating along with who gets what % from the consession stands during Kings games. Why would Samueli lose money by having an NBA team? He won't unless there is some way he is able to gain control of that NBA team and get the profits for himself.
If the Maloofs were moving to an Arena that they controlled I could see it working, but not as a secondary tenant.
If the Maloofs were moving to an Arena that they controlled I could see it working, but not as a secondary tenant.
The one kicker he might get is if he included a clause in the Honda agreement that they have to pay more money if an NBA team moves into the building. Probably not chump change. But here again, whose bone is that to chew on or is it shared? If I'm the Maloofs, I want a piece of that bump from Honda if my team is triggering that clause.
We can sit and say all that behind a keyboard, but when push comes to shove, you choose your family, your livelihood, your means of supporting your children and future over dissapointing thousands of strangers. Unless you are giving away all the money you make at your job, I don't think you, nor I, nor anyone here has a leg to stand on when discussing what is or is not "heartless" when we are discussing financials of PRIVATE individuals.
We already HAVE seen what they do without any of the "loyal fans' money" and "ratings." Seats are empty. You can't GIVE tickets away. They just showed an ad for $30 lower level seats. Unless you regularly purchase entire sections when you attend, your anecdotal spending has zero bearing on the overall figures. Do you really think your $20 dollar ticket is going to make a difference when they could stand to make half a million on one suite? Your ratings are worth what they are worth currently; not much. If you watching was so profitable for them, the TV deal would be better and they would see better profits from it. They aren't. Yes, they make money off of you and you have no right to object with how they run their own private business. Your only right as a customer and consumer is to give them money or not. You, as a customer, only have as much influence and power as the amount of money you spend. So tell me, how much do you spend on the Kings? Take that, figure out how much of total revenue you contribute and that is how much you are worth to the Kings. No more, no less. Sorry, your heart, unless manifested into dollars to buy a jersey, is worthless to the Kings.
Not sure how you decided on that metaphor, but you can try again. Mortgages have contracts built in that do not allow the bank to take back their house (because it is theirs, you are correct) as long as you are making your payments. If you fall behind, and they take back the house, I absolutely have no problem with that. Why? Because it was agreed upon and signed by both parties. We never signed anything that said we can keep them here as long as we want. Your posts are pretty intelligible usually, I can only surmise that I am angering you and prompting you to fly off the handle. We have rights to live on bank property as long as we make loan payments. We have no rights to the Kings.
These responses... believing your 50 bucks or 200 bucks is worth more than just that, believing your heart has monetary value, trying to apply real estate mortgages to a fan-team relationship, are all very off the mark and not only show outright bias, but alarmingly little understanding of not only the business world, but everyday aspects of life such as a mortgage or simple car loan.
"What do you mean you're closing this Mcdonalds? But I come in here once a week to buy 2 McDOUBLES!!! How can you do this to me??? Are you telling me the once a week purchase isn't enough to pay for your rent, wages for workers, insurance, UI, DI, and random fat people suing you guys because they decided to eat 3493890 calories? WHAT THE HELL? I loved you guys!"
"No, you can't move this coffeehouse. You see, I like your coffeehouse here. What do you mean it's in a bad neighborhood? I don't give a crap. You were here for 5 years, and god damn it, you're going to stay here. I stunted my growth for you guys!!! Isn't that worth anything???"
Seriously people, this is a business. No more, no less. The aforementioned quotes are ridiculous, but why do you guys think they are OK to apply to the Maloofs?
We already HAVE seen what they do without any of the "loyal fans' money" and "ratings." Seats are empty. You can't GIVE tickets away. They just showed an ad for $30 lower level seats. Unless you regularly purchase entire sections when you attend, your anecdotal spending has zero bearing on the overall figures. Do you really think your $20 dollar ticket is going to make a difference when they could stand to make half a million on one suite? Your ratings are worth what they are worth currently; not much. If you watching was so profitable for them, the TV deal would be better and they would see better profits from it. They aren't. Yes, they make money off of you and you have no right to object with how they run their own private business. Your only right as a customer and consumer is to give them money or not. You, as a customer, only have as much influence and power as the amount of money you spend. So tell me, how much do you spend on the Kings? Take that, figure out how much of total revenue you contribute and that is how much you are worth to the Kings. No more, no less. Sorry, your heart, unless manifested into dollars to buy a jersey, is worthless to the Kings.
Not sure how you decided on that metaphor, but you can try again. Mortgages have contracts built in that do not allow the bank to take back their house (because it is theirs, you are correct) as long as you are making your payments. If you fall behind, and they take back the house, I absolutely have no problem with that. Why? Because it was agreed upon and signed by both parties. We never signed anything that said we can keep them here as long as we want. Your posts are pretty intelligible usually, I can only surmise that I am angering you and prompting you to fly off the handle. We have rights to live on bank property as long as we make loan payments. We have no rights to the Kings.
These responses... believing your 50 bucks or 200 bucks is worth more than just that, believing your heart has monetary value, trying to apply real estate mortgages to a fan-team relationship, are all very off the mark and not only show outright bias, but alarmingly little understanding of not only the business world, but everyday aspects of life such as a mortgage or simple car loan.
"What do you mean you're closing this Mcdonalds? But I come in here once a week to buy 2 McDOUBLES!!! How can you do this to me??? Are you telling me the once a week purchase isn't enough to pay for your rent, wages for workers, insurance, UI, DI, and random fat people suing you guys because they decided to eat 3493890 calories? WHAT THE HELL? I loved you guys!"
"No, you can't move this coffeehouse. You see, I like your coffeehouse here. What do you mean it's in a bad neighborhood? I don't give a crap. You were here for 5 years, and god damn it, you're going to stay here. I stunted my growth for you guys!!! Isn't that worth anything???"
Seriously people, this is a business. No more, no less. The aforementioned quotes are ridiculous, but why do you guys think they are OK to apply to the Maloofs?
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