Malone fired
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Yeah hard to know..
Chubbs
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What this is, is a munchausen by proxy situation in a basketball context. Create a fake crisis, then send in the so called savior to fix it. Petey! VIVEK! Mully! Save us! It's no accident PDA is trying to claim it was all his idea to sign Cousins, and Rudy, and all they other things he's claiming. That's part of building the fake scenario where Malone was holding the team back.
The problem is, sometimes the thing under the care of this form of abuser, dies. That's what may happen to this team in the metaphorical sense.
Definition: is a behaviour pattern in which a caregiver fabricates, exaggerates, or induces health problems in those who are in their care.[1] With deception at its core, this behaviour is an elusive, potentially lethal, and frequently misunderstood form of child abuse[2] or medical neglect[3] that has been difficult to define, detect, and confirm.
You didn't know munchausen by proxy could be a management style? Not just a mental illness anymore folks.
The problem is, sometimes the thing under the care of this form of abuser, dies. That's what may happen to this team in the metaphorical sense.
Definition: is a behaviour pattern in which a caregiver fabricates, exaggerates, or induces health problems in those who are in their care.[1] With deception at its core, this behaviour is an elusive, potentially lethal, and frequently misunderstood form of child abuse[2] or medical neglect[3] that has been difficult to define, detect, and confirm.
You didn't know munchausen by proxy could be a management style? Not just a mental illness anymore folks.
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chasen4r1
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Yes this is driving me crazy. He acts like extending DeMarcus was a tough decision. It was actually a no-brainer. And when they signed Rudy to an extension, we had all been hoping for it, and we celebrated when he did. It's not like he went against the outcry of the fans to prove us wrong. He just did what we were waiting for him to do. Easy, no brainer decisions.
You'll need to add Chris Mullin to your signature as the "6th man"
I am not going to go into torch and pitchfork mode until some official announcement is made about who will be coaching the Kings after the Tyrone Corbin era.
That said, when you hear that the so called top candidate aspires to coach like a guy whose career record is 1335-1063 and whose playoff record is 75-91 with zero championships in 31 seasons hope isn't one of the emotions generated.
As a side note, while I think this firing was incredibly unfair to Malone, I also think it was unfair to Corbin. I think he's a great assistant and a solid coach who will either get replaced after a few games or have to ride out this season and draw the fans ire if the team isn't playing as well as before especially if it adopts a run-and-gun style. Either way, Corbin is put in a terrible position.
That said, when you hear that the so called top candidate aspires to coach like a guy whose career record is 1335-1063 and whose playoff record is 75-91 with zero championships in 31 seasons hope isn't one of the emotions generated.
As a side note, while I think this firing was incredibly unfair to Malone, I also think it was unfair to Corbin. I think he's a great assistant and a solid coach who will either get replaced after a few games or have to ride out this season and draw the fans ire if the team isn't playing as well as before especially if it adopts a run-and-gun style. Either way, Corbin is put in a terrible position.
Dime Dropper
All-Star
The more PDA runs his mouth, the more he cements his future legacy as a complete and utter idiot.
People were against signing Cousins and Gay? Yeah, good one, you massive imbecile.
Would have fired Malone even if we were 16-9? Then you are the most arrogant, misguided fool to ever hold a position of power in an NBA franchise.
People were against signing Cousins and Gay? Yeah, good one, you massive imbecile.
Would have fired Malone even if we were 16-9? Then you are the most arrogant, misguided fool to ever hold a position of power in an NBA franchise.
Dime Dropper
All-Star
I hope Peja gets a fantastic reception tonight at half-time. I also hope the team gets great support.
I'm firmly on the side of booing, chanting, whistling PDA to show our disapproval. Make idiotic, knee-jerk, amateur decisions and you should be held responsible.
Vivek is clueless when it comes to basketball. He's a very nice guy but he's like an embarrassing uncle. He needs to completely step away from anything got to do with basketball decisions.
I'm firmly on the side of booing, chanting, whistling PDA to show our disapproval. Make idiotic, knee-jerk, amateur decisions and you should be held responsible.
Vivek is clueless when it comes to basketball. He's a very nice guy but he's like an embarrassing uncle. He needs to completely step away from anything got to do with basketball decisions.
It's an incredibly selfish move. Malone was winning his way, not PDA's way. He couldn't take credit the way he'll be able to take it now. He should also be aware that the sword cuts both ways.
chasen4r1
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Well, I know how a lot of people feel about Broussard, so take this for what its worth:
Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard
Sources: Chris Mullin won't coach Kings this yr. IF he coaches them, it would be at start of next season. Corbin likely 2 remain all season
Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard
Sources: Chris Mullin won't coach Kings this yr. IF he coaches them, it would be at start of next season. Corbin likely 2 remain all season
macadocious
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How they Hell do they do this without an actual plan?
I can understand (although I disagree) firing Malone if he isn't doing what you want. But if you are going to do that, have a replacement all lined up. Letting Tyrone float in the breeze and having Mullin out there as a maybe is awful for this team.
I can understand (although I disagree) firing Malone if he isn't doing what you want. But if you are going to do that, have a replacement all lined up. Letting Tyrone float in the breeze and having Mullin out there as a maybe is awful for this team.
Section 101
All-Star
Adelman, 23 years, 1042-749 .582. playoffs 79-78 .503. Zero Championships. Two Finals
Karl has coached for 25 years. Not sure where you are getting 31.
During that time these are the only coaches with Rings.
Erik Spoelstra
Rick Carlisle
Phil Jackson
Doc Rivers
Gregg Popovich
Pat Riley
Larry Brown
Rudy Tomjanovich
Chuck Daly
I'll take the coach that has a winning record and playoffs every year over the past 10 years of crap coaches.
Chubbs
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Cause he's talking about don Nelson, not Karl?
Glenn
Hall of Famer
It's happening.
SacKings384
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I refuse to believe this until it's official. If they tell George Karl no for Chris Mullin it will be the ultimate sign that Vivek is insane. You don't tell a hall of fame coach no for Chris "No coaching experience" Mullin. This is giving me a migraine.
What point at Ty Corbin's tenure with the Jazz makes anyone think this guy is a run-and-gun coach? Wtf? George Karl not in plans? NOT IN PLANS?!
What point at Ty Corbin's tenure with the Jazz makes anyone think this guy is a run-and-gun coach? Wtf? George Karl not in plans? NOT IN PLANS?!
chasen4r1
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More credible source:
Sam Amick @sam_amick
As @Chris_Broussard noted, I'm told Tyrone Corbin would have to fall on his face to not make it to end of season w/ Kings. Karl not in plans
Sam Amick @sam_amick
As @Chris_Broussard noted, I'm told Tyrone Corbin would have to fall on his face to not make it to end of season w/ Kings. Karl not in plans
chasen4r1
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Sam Amick @sam_amick
Chris Mullin will be more involved with the team in practices, planning etc., but no current plans to coach Kings. Will try to aid offense.
Chris Mullin will be more involved with the team in practices, planning etc., but no current plans to coach Kings. Will try to aid offense.
Hilarious. You fire a coach and have no idea who to replace him with.
That always works so well. When the front office interferes with coaching. No wonder Malone dug his heels in.
ForlornKing
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I do not no if I can be a fan of a sports team that vales style over winning..I really can't.
MassachusettsKingsFan
All-Star
Seriously, just firing Malone for the hell of it and handing the temporary keys over to Corbin is the worst case scenario in my opinion. No progress is made.
Albatros
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I'm..... lost for words.
SacKings384
Starter
Let's be real. Corbin is not in their long term plans. So why the charade? Why the charade with Malone? You're just going to play out 80% of a season with a lame duck coach? Really? Why would you expect the players to play hard in that type of a setting? If you're thinking about the future why are you throwing away 80% of a season worth of player experience getting set into a system?
Let's get this right. They didn't really want Malone. But they let players waste 20% of a season getting used to his system. They don't really want Corbin. But they're going to waste 80% of a season getting used to his system. Then at the end of the season, they bring in ANOTHER coach, and they have to learn his system. I can't envision how that makes sense in any way shape or form.
Nobody expect Corbin to make it to next season. How do I know that? PDA didn't exactly give him a vote of confidence when they asked about him other than saying "He's our coach." No, "He's our coach long term." Just... "He's our coach."
So why wouldn't you bring in someone else? They didn't even WANT Corbin. They wanted Gentry to be the assistant coach. How does any of this make any sense to anybody? I'm hoping this is all a smokescreen because right now I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Let's get this right. They didn't really want Malone. But they let players waste 20% of a season getting used to his system. They don't really want Corbin. But they're going to waste 80% of a season getting used to his system. Then at the end of the season, they bring in ANOTHER coach, and they have to learn his system. I can't envision how that makes sense in any way shape or form.
Nobody expect Corbin to make it to next season. How do I know that? PDA didn't exactly give him a vote of confidence when they asked about him other than saying "He's our coach." No, "He's our coach long term." Just... "He's our coach."
So why wouldn't you bring in someone else? They didn't even WANT Corbin. They wanted Gentry to be the assistant coach. How does any of this make any sense to anybody? I'm hoping this is all a smokescreen because right now I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel.
lawlman91
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My bet is that Karl is in the plans, but FO is not willing to admit it. They are presenting us with this doomsday scenario where Mullin is our head coach, only to bring in Karl and then paint Karl as the savior of the franchise.
It's a fabricated narrative:
- Vivek pretends to be some dumb owner that wants to copy GSW, favoring Mullin as the potential candidate for head coach.
- PDA plays the part of the reasonable guy, bringing in Karl, a guy who is experienced and will keep this team afloat
- The dumber Vivek presents himself, the more we will love PDA
- We see a fabricated tug-of-war between the irrational ownership and the rational PDA and Karl
- Kings fans will undoubtedly take the side of PDA and Karl, absolving PDA of any criticism involving Malone's dismissal
Good escape plan, FO. Beautifully crafted. It may work on us once, but I doubt it will work on us twice.
https://sports.vice.com/article/who...ngs-screwed-themselves/?utm_vicesportstwitter
Not a fan of Vice, but that's some venom in that paragraph.
Chubbs
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But really, who other than Mullin would want any part of this franchise right now? Taking over mid Season? I can't recall a coach of Karl's caliber ever doing such a thing. He seems open to it, but it's not realistic.
We are an absolute joke.
