SoupIsGood
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Magloire is one of my hopes for this offseason.....
Magloire still an option if GP moves fast
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walker60
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Magloire is ok, but he's not an upgrade over Miller. He's a little better rebounder and shotblocker, but he shoots a bad FG% for a C. Add in the fact that he can't hit a FT, he can't pass, and he turns the ball over way too much, and I think he is overated IMHO. He's a decent C, but I really don't think he's a good one. He's also going to demand more money then he is worth next year when he is a FA.
He's a better prescence than Brad though, just because he's not a shotblocker doesn't mean he can't change or alter shots.
He's most definitely an uprgrade over Brad defensively. Offensively? No, he's not too great on offense, but not a liability. He's also pretty mobile.
I'd be pleased if we got him, and brings what we need. Just don't know about backing up Brad in his contract year... if that couldn't be worked out, Brad would have to come off the bench (reasons are on the bottom of the 1st page). I'd be fine with either. If neither of those, the deal doesn't work, and the deals likely off.
He's most definitely an uprgrade over Brad defensively. Offensively? No, he's not too great on offense, but not a liability. He's also pretty mobile.
I'd be pleased if we got him, and brings what we need. Just don't know about backing up Brad in his contract year... if that couldn't be worked out, Brad would have to come off the bench (reasons are on the bottom of the 1st page). I'd be fine with either. If neither of those, the deal doesn't work, and the deals likely off.
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SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Overall Magloire isn't an upgrade over Brad. He could be a awesome backup but he would want to do that. I guess you could play them together, Magloire did play PF when he came into the league but he is pretty unathletic. I think Gadzuric would better fit our needs.
Overall, no. Defensively and what we need? Yes. But, like I said, it's a complicated deal now, and may not work.
Gadzuric? That'd be the same deal, would Kenny want to come off the bench? Given what we know, I'd say no. That's why any deals with the Bucks, which would likely involve KT, aren't as realistic or feasible as before the Villanueva trade.
Gadzuric? That'd be the same deal, would Kenny want to come off the bench? Given what we know, I'd say no. That's why any deals with the Bucks, which would likely involve KT, aren't as realistic or feasible as before the Villanueva trade.
KingKong
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Magliore is more what we need -- a traditional set of big man skills. Gets on the glass, is rugged and physical in there, Adonal Foyle doesn't run him over like a WNBA center. He's a walking double double. Not a great player, but a physical roleplayer, starting center, borderline All Star in this weak era for centers.
ParniValjak
All-Star
ParniValjak
All-Star
But a poor shotblocker for a player who has a huge wingspan.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
That's fine -- still better than anything we have, and willing and able to thug somebody if he can't get the block too.
Not a 100% solution but if your 3 bigs were Magliore, 1 of our softies, and then a shotblocker, it would be borderline, but maybe enough. Not your main inside intimidator, but a guy who can provide support there, and takes care of the other team's bigs physically.
I looked up Hoopshype. And here's the salaray list.
Corliss Wiliamson 6.5 mil, will be expired after this season (06/07).
Vitaly Potapenko 3.3 mil, ditto.
Jason Hart 1.68mil, ditto.
Well. Total salaries for those players, whom we are not using, is ... 11.48 mil !!!And all of those contracts will be expired at the end of the coming season.
Which makes me wonder if for any reason they may want to hold on to some of these expiring contracts so we have cash next year. Not that I want to, but it is an option....
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
If they do, its all for the Maloof's pockets, because $11 mil off the books still doesn't get us far enough under the cap to have anything more than the MLE.
whozit
Starter
^^^ Yes, but depending on Bonzi's deal (assuming he resigns), it may allow the Kings to only take a tax hit this year even if they do use part/all of the MLE, use the MLE again next year and be under the tax cap going forward.
Not sure about the numbers in regards to the tax going forward and my dial-up is going slower than usual.
Not sure about the numbers in regards to the tax going forward and my dial-up is going slower than usual.
ForlornKing
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KT For Magloire
Wow.
No one wants KT, not for a good center when they could get much much much better for Magloire.
Wow.
No one wants KT, not for a good center when they could get much much much better for Magloire.
LPKingsFan
All-Star
Looks like a trade is where the big man is going to have to come from then.
And out of them available, I'd take Magloire over Dalembert or Etan Thomas, even if for just a year.
I hope VF is right about the sneaky Petrie. Because right now I'm just bummed he didn't manage to get Pryz or Chandler...
And out of them available, I'd take Magloire over Dalembert or Etan Thomas, even if for just a year.
I hope VF is right about the sneaky Petrie. Because right now I'm just bummed he didn't manage to get Pryz or Chandler...
LPKingsFan
All-Star
Would you do SAR for Magloire? Bucks would, I would think.
nbrans
All-Star
They'd need to sweeten the deal somehow. I don't like the idea of giving up a semi-valuable piece for a one season Magloire rental, especially with the way serviceable centers seem to get ridiculously overpaid in the offseason.
For KT? Sure. For just about anyone else on the roster? Not so sure.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
That one season rentalism would have to be dealt with I think. Not sure how -- Magliore isn't the sort of guy you get to agree to an automatic extension as soon as you trade for him. But we'd to at least have a talk with him. Otherwise I would have to agree we couldn't go too far beyond KT or enders.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Answer me this. If our PG, SG, and SF are all non-traditional type players, is it necessarily a good thing that our C be a more traditional C, or one that can better compliment those other oddities?
ParniValjak
All-Star
No, sice he will most likely be a one season rental.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
No interior defense/rebounding = no hope of victory.
Brad's offensive game might make some sense, or at least be an interesting thought, if it were actually something that could be counted on when it mattered, which its not. But its the important big man stuff where he and the rest of the frontcourt is a disaster in there.
Total # of non-rebounding, non-defending, jump-shooting centers/frontcourts to win rings since I have been watching basketball...zero.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Yes, you've said that without much to back it up on several occasions now.
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