Lorenzen Wright
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Absolutely agree. He'd be a nice fit for a bunch of reasons, IMO. He wouldn't be the "answer" but would improve the interior defense (size/rebounding/length/mobility), quickness, and bring some scoring at the same time.
Haven't heard us have any interest, but we can get him for the LLE. Considering the Wolves are offering him that, but can get a starter spot there. Here, Musselman knows him from their two seasons in Memphis, would be backing up Brad and the PF.
Not sure we have the best chance though.
Haven't heard us have any interest, but we can get him for the LLE. Considering the Wolves are offering him that, but can get a starter spot there. Here, Musselman knows him from their two seasons in Memphis, would be backing up Brad and the PF.
Not sure we have the best chance though.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Falls under the "why not?" rubric. He wouldn't fix anything -- hasn't blocked a shot a game in a decade and is an incredibly hohum aging talent that lost minutes to Jake Tsakalidis last year -- but he would be a solid pickup as a reserve 4/5. Would add a quality big, but we would still be ailing up front barring an impact change.
Entity
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When it comes to these older guys like Cato/Kandi/Wright I myself would be just as happy with the youngster Justin Williams. What we "say" we need is defensive big off the bench that can rebound and block shots. Well there you go Justin Williams is that guy. Most youngsters don't adapt quickly to the league because of offense. Well that is not what we need so his adaptation to us will be just as well as anybody because we are not looking for him to score. Garcia played great defense last year but, we were looking at him from the offensive side. Willams is signed to be a defensive big that block shots and rebounds. Lets see what the kid has I feel he would be just as good as those aging weak legs of the aformentioned trio.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Wright may not be a great shotblocker but he is a pretty good defender. I would rather Olowokandi who is certainly a presence in the paint.
Sac.Kings
All-Star
Darn I thought by your thread that we signed him. I guess we'll just have to wait a little more for some good news to develop from Kingsland
Me too
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SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
I did too when I first saw it.
Wright is 30.
Cato is 31. Yes, he had an ankle problem this past season, but he'll still be serviceable.
Olowokandi. 31.
Also, you have to take the experience into play.
I love Justin Williams as well, but we aren't sure what his situation will be with us yet. I think he'll make the team though.
Cato is 31. Yes, he had an ankle problem this past season, but he'll still be serviceable.
Olowokandi. 31.
Also, you have to take the experience into play.
I love Justin Williams as well, but we aren't sure what his situation will be with us yet. I think he'll make the team though.
HndsmCelt
Hall of Famer
Candyman may have a little more game in him than Wright but he is a nutter AND an underachiver. One of the factors the team needs to consider now if they plan to keep one or more of the young guys for the front line is INFLUENCE. This is one of the great intangables that the team lost when Vlade went back south. Up till now the tempo for the fornt line and the attitude is set by Miller and the SAR K9 duo... not exactly feirce, hard working and professional. SAR has a great attitude and showed guts in his injured play but it ends there. Kennys whining about starts, pouting off the bench and general knuckle headedness is far from a GOOD influence and Brad's poor condition and weak inside play almost seems contagious.
Enter Ron and things look better (It also helps to have Brad doing the Team USA games) I think whne we are looking at these LLE/Vet's minimum guys attitude, work ethinc and the desire/ablity to school the Kids is MORE important than the hairs breadh of differance they have in skills or years left in the leage. Wright is no Lou Gehrig but he is more likely to meet the guys in the gym for a work out than to take them drinking the night before a game. Roughtly the same can be said for Cato. Pollard is a good force in the locker room but Im not sold he has any real edge on Cato or Wright. But Owolocandi has never been the kind of guy to stay late, inspire teammates or even give a rat's patootie about wining for himself.
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Entity
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i didn't say depend on him. i am saying he is just as good as the trio that keeps poping up here. I sure wouldn't want to depend on those guys that are AS GOOD AS THEY ARE GOING TO GET!!!! Willams gives us what we need now and the sky is the limit on what he can be.
We wouldn't depend on one of them. They aren't guys to anchor the interior defense, one of them would be to help and improve it.
Also, you have to take the experience into play.
I love Justin Williams as well, but we aren't sure what his situation will be with us yet. I think he'll make the team though.
Also, you have to take the experience into play.
I love Justin Williams as well, but we aren't sure what his situation will be with us yet. I think he'll make the team though.
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Circa_1985_Fan
All-Star
I wonder how similar the role of Wright would be, were we to sign him, to Tony Massenburg...their games remind me an awful lot of one another?
Eh. Bad comparision.
I saw Wright the last couple seasons with regularity... Wright's more athletic and mobile, taller, better rebounder, also a bunch younger. I'd say better offensively as well.
I saw a lot of Massenburg with the Spurs in 04-05, some with the Kings, that's about it. Only similarity I saw is that they can score in the post, hustle, and both play with energy. But Wright has the edge there.
I saw Wright the last couple seasons with regularity... Wright's more athletic and mobile, taller, better rebounder, also a bunch younger. I'd say better offensively as well.
I saw a lot of Massenburg with the Spurs in 04-05, some with the Kings, that's about it. Only similarity I saw is that they can score in the post, hustle, and both play with energy. But Wright has the edge there.
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bajaden
Hall of Famer
Williams
Lets not lose prospective here. Williams went undrafted. Whether we like it or not, there's a reason for that. Do undrafted players make NBA teams? Yes, a few do. Do they excell in the league? Not many, but it does happen. Brad Miller for example. You say we only need him for his defense not his offense. I seem to remember that if your on the floor for defense your also on the other end of the floor. Or maybe you don't know where to be on the other end of the floor.
The problem with rookies is that their often out of position for the play thats being run. Gerold Wallace was a terrific athelete but was always out of position or just plain standing around. Now, after 4 or 5 years in the league he's learned. I'm not trying to bad mouth Williams. He may be one of those exeptions. I just wouldn't count on him to be the cure for what ails the Kings. At least not yet.
Lets not lose prospective here. Williams went undrafted. Whether we like it or not, there's a reason for that. Do undrafted players make NBA teams? Yes, a few do. Do they excell in the league? Not many, but it does happen. Brad Miller for example. You say we only need him for his defense not his offense. I seem to remember that if your on the floor for defense your also on the other end of the floor. Or maybe you don't know where to be on the other end of the floor.
The problem with rookies is that their often out of position for the play thats being run. Gerold Wallace was a terrific athelete but was always out of position or just plain standing around. Now, after 4 or 5 years in the league he's learned. I'm not trying to bad mouth Williams. He may be one of those exeptions. I just wouldn't count on him to be the cure for what ails the Kings. At least not yet.
Alacron
Bench
The problem with rookies is that their often out of position for the play thats being run. Gerold Wallace was a terrific athelete but was always out of position or just plain standing around. Now, after 4 or 5 years in the league he's learned. I'm not trying to bad mouth Williams. He may be one of those exeptions. I just wouldn't count on him to be the cure for what ails the Kings. At least not yet.
What exactly do we have to lose by using Williams off the bench instead of Wright/Cato/Kandi? "What ails the Kings" is not going to be cured by anything we can do this offseason, much less by who we select to back up Miller.
When Wallace was a rookie, we were title contenders. Now the focus is clearly on the future. Might as well speed along the development of the youngsters by actually playing them meaningful minutes.
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SacTownKid
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Except the payoff of Kandi working out is so much greater. Plus if he could be signed for the LLE you just do it and ask questions later. I have seen too many guys like Kandi walk throught the door of Arco and succeed when nobody thought they would.
Arby's Roast Beef
Starter
Wright's solid all-around. Solid offensive player for a big man, who tends to score in different ways--garbage buckets, layups, the occasional jumpshot, but nothing too consistent. The consummate role player--does the dirty work, hustles, capable of playing solid defense. He's not a savior, but honestly he's just a backup type. He's an okay athlete, but definitely not spectacular and not much of a shotblocker. But he brings loads of intangibles and can be a good fit for the Kings.
HndsmCelt
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Well in THEORY you are right. Cato and Wright have NO chance of improvment. Great thin about being a chronic underachiver is that you ALLWAYS have potential, but realisticly if you have not done squat in the NBA by the time you are arround 30 you just never will so the odds of Candyman improving are about the same as your odds of wining the lottery. Sure they are better than your neighbor who never buys tickets but not by a stastically signifficant ammount.
The BIG problem is not what Owolokandi MIGHT bring but what he WILL bring, a lazy, disruptive presence. This is a risk you can take when the potential is great enough but in his case I just don't that being the case.
Entity
Hall of Famer
Lets not lose prospective here. Williams went undrafted. Whether we like it or not, there's a reason for that. Do undrafted players make NBA teams? Yes, a few do. Do they excell in the league? Not many, but it does happen. Brad Miller for example. You say we only need him for his defense not his offense. I seem to remember that if your on the floor for defense your also on the other end of the floor. Or maybe you don't know where to be on the other end of the floor.
The problem with rookies is that their often out of position for the play thats being run. Gerold Wallace was a terrific athelete but was always out of position or just plain standing around. Now, after 4 or 5 years in the league he's learned. I'm not trying to bad mouth Williams. He may be one of those exeptions. I just wouldn't count on him to be the cure for what ails the Kings. At least not yet.
he went undrafted because he has little to no offensive game whatsoever. Not many NBA teams need a backup center that can only score off junk he puts back. What we need is rebounder and shot blocker and he can do that. rebounding and shot blocking there is no position to be in. You are among the ppl that only think offensivly. Once again WE DON'T NEED A BACKUP CENTER THAT SCORES OR RUNS THE OFFENSE.
WE NEED A SHOTBLOCKER. I don't give a damn if you went undrafted or not if you average 6 blocked shots a game you are a good shot blocker. the rim is 10 feet at any level.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
In starter minutes, Olowokandi has shown he is a legit 12 point, 9 rebound, and 2 block center.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Was. One time in his career. During a contract year. But more importantly, I think classic big numbers on a bad team stuff. Nobody's found a use for him in those sorts of minutes since. Nobody is just going to throw him out there and let him wobble his way around to that sort of production. If he was a legit 12pt 9reb 2blk player on a winning team, he would have been one of the very hottest free agents on the market and likely looking at $10mil a year from some team. But I'm afraid the gig is up with him.
Given the borderline desperation, Kandi is better than nothing. But as any sort of legitimate solution/starter? Think not. Not unless basically everybody in the NBA is wrong about him.
