List of free agents for 2009 and 2010
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Circa_1985_Fan
All-Star
Yeah, I'm with you VF, BUT...if Geoff wants to give Carlos Boozer a call, I wouldnt complain. I'll take our #1 pick and Sessions or Hedo and call it a TDOS!(unless the above scenario occurs, of course
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Circa_1985_Fan
All-Star
He'll probably want the MLE...no thanks.
Circa_1985_Fan
All-Star
Yeah, Gordon is a pure shooter/score, NOT a PG.
KCKingsCountry
G-League
Here is what we will have under contract in 2009
Beno
Martin
Garcia
Nocioni
Greene
Thompson
Thomas
Hawes
1st Round Pick
1st Round Pick
The best move would not spend much this offseason. Try to get some young guys on the cheap who have potential. The 09/10 trade deadline is where to strike IMO.
Beno
Martin
Garcia
Nocioni
Greene
Thompson
Thomas
Hawes
1st Round Pick
1st Round Pick
The best move would not spend much this offseason. Try to get some young guys on the cheap who have potential. The 09/10 trade deadline is where to strike IMO.
Vlade4GM
All-Star
No, it won't work. There'd be no ball movement.
upinsmoke
All-Star
You should not present your opinions as facts. Beno and Ben splitting mins at the one. Gordon could get a few of Kevins mins at back up two. Not to mention Garcia can also play 1-3. I feel it would be worth a shot because Gordon would always have trade value for a few more years at least.
Vlade4GM
All-Star
Presenting them as facts? You obviously had no problem discerning between the two so why are you complaining?
Why should we spend 7-8 million of our cap space on a glorified rotational player that solves absolutely none of our primary weaknesses?
Vlade4GM
All-Star
I think we should be worrying about our starting positions before worrying about our depth. Spending a considerable amount of long term cap space for "depth" at this point is not a good idea for a rebuild.
There isn't an MLE if you're under the cap,
You and I often disagree but I think this is an extremely important and valid argument... We aren't going to throw $8 million at someone that isn't going to fix one of the gaping wounds. To do so, in my book, would be paramount to gross dereliction of duties, especially after working so hard to get rid of so much dead wood.
Address the problems first. Then and only then do you worry about the depth of the team.
MassachusettsKingsFan
All-Star
The thing that im most afraid of is the kings filling one of our many gaping wounds with a vet .. there is no place on our team for any veteran who expects solid playing time, and thats that.
Sarunas
G-League
Definitely eyed Rodney Carney when looking at the list of FA's. I know were extremely congested at the SF position, but I would want this guy because he is an ATHLETE...something were a little short on. I think he could be a very good rotational player for us, lots of upside.
I'd rather keep McCants than bring in Ben Gordon for the people who want to do that. Shad is a little taller, he's a lot stronger, more athletic, and less of a chucker with less of an ego. And he's cheaper.
I wouldn't mind bringing in Andre Miller I guess? He's in his early 30s but his game doesn't rely on athleticism or speed so he'll be able to play for a while, and he'd definitely get the ball to our young guys. I know you all think we need a young superstar at every position, but if we can't find a superstar PG or whatever I think we should get a player like Dre who can help the development of our young guys.
I wouldn't mind bringing in Andre Miller I guess? He's in his early 30s but his game doesn't rely on athleticism or speed so he'll be able to play for a while, and he'd definitely get the ball to our young guys. I know you all think we need a young superstar at every position, but if we can't find a superstar PG or whatever I think we should get a player like Dre who can help the development of our young guys.
He's also a terrible shooter too. I just don't like McCants all that much. Ben Gordon is bleh. I'd like to see the Kings pursue Sessions/Jack/Villanueva depending on who they draft and where.
I actually like your idea of Andre Miller. Maybe throw him the entire cap space on a one year deal. Since there won't be a huge market. He could bite and look to raise his salary one last time by bringing the 'worst' team in the league back to relevance. Otherwise, it's just a nice paycheck for a one year gig and the Kings get a stop gap fix at PG who may help the youngins develop.
Arby's Roast Beef
Starter
I like Carney in that list, and he does give us an athletic foil to the wings we sport at that position, but I can't help but to feel a little bit concerned about his game. He's what I call "clay"...because three years into the league, he still hasn't shown that he can do anything particularly well. Here's what we can establish: the guy can't pass the ball at all, in the half court he overly relies on his streaky outside shot to compensate for his inability to handle and slash to the basket, and he's a poor rebounder with just okay defense. His inability to handle the ball or pass will probably relegate him to SF for much of his career, but in order to gain traction he'll really need to improve his shooting--because right now, he's not particularly good at anything. I also get this strange feeling that once he hits stride with the three pointers, assuming he ever does, he's going to become pretty obsessed with it and anger a lot of coaches--I think his basketball IQ is questionable. Scouts will always see the strength/athleticism physical potential in combination with the shooting/defensive skill potential, but with his concentration problems, his severe ball skill flaws and his career trajectory so far, not sure if that can be done. He's worth taking a flyer for the minimum or slightly above it, but nothing more than that. Unlike McCants, who can score, we don't exactly know what we're getting here besides the general athleticism, but there's potential.
I like what Gortat has done this year, and it's possible that he can be a major sleeper in this year's free agency. He's not putting the stats to get much attention, he's getting hugely overshadowed by Dwight Howard, and isn't receiving much playing time, so unless some GM has been following his footprints he'll probably earn about $2 million at the most. But the guy can block shots and shows some pretty good athleticism and excellent rebounding ability, and with his youth that alone can command solid money. We do have Hawes and Thompson, but Gortat with a solid deal gives us extra size and perhaps most of all, a shotblocking enforcer.
I like what Gortat has done this year, and it's possible that he can be a major sleeper in this year's free agency. He's not putting the stats to get much attention, he's getting hugely overshadowed by Dwight Howard, and isn't receiving much playing time, so unless some GM has been following his footprints he'll probably earn about $2 million at the most. But the guy can block shots and shows some pretty good athleticism and excellent rebounding ability, and with his youth that alone can command solid money. We do have Hawes and Thompson, but Gortat with a solid deal gives us extra size and perhaps most of all, a shotblocking enforcer.
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AriesMar27
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i wonder if we could sign and trade players for 1 yr contracts.... offer andre miller the full 8 million for 1 yr and philly gets beno and the difference in cash... similar to the camby trade except its a s&t.... philly would get beno and 3 million or trade thomas (or nocioni) to philly and dont spend the money at all. the 76ers need a sf, we need a pg.
Sac.1989
Starter
couldnt agree more, Dre would be awesome but only if we miss out on sessions.
KingsInBrazil
G-League
How about Trevor Ariza ? Do you guys think he would have a blow out season and flourish if hes given a starting role with the Kings? He looks athletic and a good defender, hes averaging 3.5 steals in his last 5 games...
KingsCitizen
Starter
We are somewhat overloaded at the SF spot right now and I don't think Ariza will be pretty special. I like Nocioni over him.
Our current needs are a big man and a point guard. If we draft a top big, then most likely we will get a vet PG out of FA or via trade. Otherwise it'll be the other way around.
The only thing that concerns me, is that the cap space that we will have may not be too high to just sign a star FA. So I would rather see a trade for some star with bigger salary for maybe KT/Beno and we'll absorb the rest with the cap space.
If say we draft Rubio/Jennings, I will be high on trading for Kaman.
If we get a Griffin/Thabeet, probably we should aim for Felton.
Our current needs are a big man and a point guard. If we draft a top big, then most likely we will get a vet PG out of FA or via trade. Otherwise it'll be the other way around.
The only thing that concerns me, is that the cap space that we will have may not be too high to just sign a star FA. So I would rather see a trade for some star with bigger salary for maybe KT/Beno and we'll absorb the rest with the cap space.
If say we draft Rubio/Jennings, I will be high on trading for Kaman.
If we get a Griffin/Thabeet, probably we should aim for Felton.
BritishColumbia
Bench
Jason Hart - nice try
Zaza Pachulia is not athletic but this Georgian has a huge and powerful body and can be useful for almost any team for 15+ minutes. However, I read somewhere in the Internet about 2 months ago that he wants to stay in Atlanta becasue he does not want to move and he has a very close friendship there with Iliya Kovalchuk and Slava Kozlov from Atlanta Trashers.
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AriesMar27
Guest
apparently don nelson wants crawford to opt out of his contract... i dont want us to sign him as a free agent. i want to trade beno for crawford. that knocks 2 years off of benos contract for a better player...
kingsnation
All-Star
Crawford would be a waste of our time. and why exactly would they want Beno?? If they want Crawford to opt out, imagine how they'd feel about Beno's contract..
As of right now we'll have around 8 million. How about we just save that money until 2010 combined with kenny thomas' expiring which will net us 8 million more. that would equal to around 16 million not including the draft 2010 draft picks. If we are going to sign someone we might as well sign an impact player rather than just average to decent rotational players. Plus we will have a lot of rookies coming in this season and they will need the time to develope. We can afford to save the money.
