Bricklayer said:And the Christie thing...
1) traded him for Cat = good
2) then let Cat walk for nothing = terrible
Net result = Christie for nothing. If you're going to do that, jsut let him retire as a King.
Vlade = also for nothing
Webb = Thomas, Skinner, Corliss
That's how your franchise gets bad in a hurry.
Bricklayer said:And enough with the Petrie as immortal stuff. I play chess too. And I've had a considerably better read on this team over the past year than Geoff has (and have predicted several of his moves long before they happened). If we were playing he'd be down a pawn and having already ceded control of the middle to me. And I'm NOT that good.
Bricklayer said:...
Have I mentioned recently that we may have the wrong guy in charge?
Let me translate "patience" as argued for by Mr. Petrie:
"Patience" is having by far the two most logical pieces to be swapped out be Petrie's favorite coach and pet player. Hence any excuse not to do anything. Patience is being such an emotional automaton that he can not feel the life being sucked out of the fanbase, does not understand the need for hope. Patience is having FAR too much job security and carte blanche, and being able to stare impassively at the mess you yourself have created without ever feeling the barest lick of flame under your own butt spurring you to do something about it.
And "patience" most of all is an utter load of bull coming from a man who tore the heart and soul from this team piece by piece over a 12 month period just last year, and NOW is going to claim that his 13-19 bastard child of a brainfart cannot be tinkered with?
nbrans said:Your megalomania knows no bounds. You know more about this team than Petrie? This is a message board, Brick. First off, in the offseason you thought this team would be a winner just like the rest of us, so all of this "better read" stuff is pure crap. You have absolutely no proof that Petrie thought the team would be better than you thought the team would be. Plus, Petrie is privvy to 1,000,000% more information than any of us. I think it's safe to say that Jerry Freakin' Reynolds has a vastly better read on this team than all of us combined. Let's not forget ourselves.
Bricklayer said:Why thank you. I work hard on my megalomania.
Yes, Geoff put together this team thinking they would be terrible.Give me a break.
But hey, feel free not to forget YOURself if you truly feel that you are such a peon that you couldn't possibly bring yourself to question your "betters". Which I guess at that rate would include me then too, no?![]()
My record on this matter has been all over this board for the last year. There is NO question that I am on the most unfortunate of hot streaks. Could hardly hide it if I wanted to with the simple search function.
Petrie, outside of pooling the wool over the eyes of people like yourself who's Kings goggles apparently date back to our days wearing black, has a record too over that period that he cannot hide from.
nbrans said:Your "record" consists of sitting back and criticizing every possible move without offering any plausible alternative. And even with that tendency you STILL thought this team would be good.
And even with that said, you still have no basis for knowing what Petrie thought this team would be capable of. Yeah, Petrie probably thought this team would be decent. SO DID YOU. And yet you have crowned yourself savant of the Kings and claim a better expertise than a guy who just happened to be a stellar NBA player, built a contending franchise from scratch and basically could have had the Executive of the Year award named after him. Your qualifications.... less clear
I'm not saying that the front office can't be questioned, but you've really outdone yourself if you think you know more than Petrie. I'm all for examining faults, but I'm not about to pronounce myself Kings God and claim I know more than the actual experts.
nbrans said:Your "record" consists of sitting back and criticizing every possible move without offering any plausible alternative. And even with that tendency you STILL thought this team would be good.
And even with that said, you still have no basis for knowing what Petrie thought this team would be capable of. Yeah, Petrie probably thought this team would be decent. SO DID YOU. And yet you have crowned yourself savant of the Kings and claim a better expertise than a guy who just happened to be a stellar NBA player, built a contending franchise from scratch and basically could have had the Executive of the Year award named after him. Your qualifications.... less clear
I'm not saying that the front office can't be questioned, but you've really outdone yourself if you think you know more than Petrie. I'm all for examining faults, but I'm not about to pronounce myself Kings God and claim I know more than the actual experts.
Bricklayer said:Any plausible alternative? I have offered nothing but. Not plausible to you, but then again your own acumen has consisted of such wonderful little gems as Reef was going to come in and grab us 10 boards a game. And if you would like to go work on your reading comprehension you will note that I said I have had a BETTER read on the team than Geoff Petrie. Not a perfect one. And the proof, as they say, is in the pudding.
Thay don't need to admit this team is not good, the record speaks for itself. If this was my team, and I had huge $$$$$ invested, I wouldn't come to all the games either, I would be chilling in my Palms hotel.kennadog said:I don't need details, just admit this is not good and that it matters to you, Joe and Gavin!
thesanityannex said:Thay don't need to admit this team is not good, the record speaks for itself. If this was my team, and I had huge $$$$$ invested, I wouldn't come to all the games either, I would be chilling in my Palms hotel.
I'm sure it does affect them 10 times more, which is why I understand them missing games. With all that $$$$ invested, they want them to win more than any of us. It would be tough for me, if in that position, to watch every game knowing I'm losing fans and money.SacTownKid said:Well, I just have to believe that it comes down to more than that. The Maloofs appear to be very passionate about the sport of basketball. I have to believe the way the Kings are playing effects them 10 times as much as it effects us. They have a lot riding on the success of their franchise that may very well be connected to its very existence.
Bricklayer said:...
Have I mentioned recently that we may have the wrong guy in charge?
Let me translate "patience" as argued for by Mr. Petrie:
"Patience" is having by far the two most logical pieces to be swapped out be Petrie's favorite coach and pet player. Hence any excuse not to do anything. Patience is being such an emotional automaton that he can not feel the life being sucked out of the fanbase, does not understand the need for hope. Patience is having FAR too much job security and carte blanche, and being able to stare impassively at the mess you yourself have created without ever feeling the barest lick of flame under your own butt spurring you to do something about it.
And "patience" most of all is an utter load of bull coming from a man who tore the heart and soul from this team piece by piece over a 12 month period just last year, and NOW is going to claim that his 13-19 bastard child of a brainfart cannot be tinkered with?
But Kings (and fans) lose.GoGoGadget said:Brick wins the thread.
Ding Ding Ding Ding!! We have a winner!!Bricklayer said:And the Christie thing...
1) traded him for Cat = good
2) then let Cat walk for nothing = terrible
Net result = Christie for nothing. If you're going to do that, jsut let him retire as a King.
Vlade = also for nothing
Webb = Thomas, Skinner, Corliss
That's how your franchise gets bad in a hurry.