Kingsfans Predraft Scouting Report: Jan Vesely

Bricklayer

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Name: Jan Vesely
Position: SF/PF
Age: 20
Hgt: 6'11"
Wgt: 230
College/Country: Czech Republic
Class: N/A
10-11 Stats: 27.0min 10.1pts (.536 .357 .444) 3.6reb 1.1ast 1.3stl 0.9blk 1.6TO
Projected Draft Position: #5-#8
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Kingfans Scouting Report #1:

Not much on the European guys yet, so I'll do my best on Vesely, a guy that people are probably interested in.
I find Vesely a very intriguing player. I like him, but I find it very difficult to get a good feel for how he'll turn out in the NBA. He does have the tools to be a very good player, but he also has some flaws in his game which may or may not be correctable.
Vesely is a very interesting athlete. He has great size, coming in at around 6'9'', perhaps even taller. He'll be a SF at the next level - if he's forced to play PF he's going to have problems. I'll get to that later. As a SF, his size is a huge advantage. He has long arms to match. He is very athletic; not what you typically imagine a European player to be. He is quick and fluid, and he has crazy hops. He will dunk on you if he gets the opportunity, and he won't feel bad about it. He loves to dunk. He's probably at his best right now when he's running the floor and can use his athleticism in the open court. He takes it to the hoop when he can, although his lack of strength will be a problem for him when it comes to finishing at the rim in the NBA. It sometimes cause him problems at his current level, so he will need to get much stronger in the NBA. He is far too light and that can't stay the same if he's to become an effective player.
His form on his shot is solid, and he has a pretty high release point. He is not a big threat from the outside yet, though, but there is certainly some room for improvement if he puts in the work. He could become a reliable shooter, and it will be very difficult to block his shot if it does due to his size and length. This will help open up his driving game. Although Vesely likes to take it to the rim, his handles are not yet good enough to make him a creator off the dribble. He is already a better ball handler than both Casspi and Greene, but that's not saying a whole lot. He will need to work on his ball handling to become a serious threat with the ball in his hands. Which leads me to my next point - his hands. They're not very good. They're not completely terrible, but he will fumble a pass or two a game (much like Casspi does). I don't know if this is a hand-eye co-ordination thing, or whether it stems from a lack of strength. Hopefully it will get better when he gets stronger, but typically I don't think many players are able to significantly improve their hands. Hopefully, I'm wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.
His rebounding is OK at the Euro level at around 3.5 boards a game in 27 minutes of PT. It's certainly not a strength at this point, but it is harder to rack up the boards in Euro ball than it is the NBA. He also spends alot of time away from the basket, so his rebounding should get better when he learns where to be on the court in the NBA and if he improves his strength. I don't see any reason he can't average at least 6 a game at SF if he earns the PT, considering his size, athleticism and length. He just needs to get stronger. 6 or 7 boards a game is very solid for a SF. Again, his hands may prove to be a detriment in this category too, although I really don't want to give the impression that his hands are Kwame-Brown-like. They're not that terrible.
As a passer, Vesely is solid. He's not Magic Johnson, but he's got a good understanding of the game and good fundamentals (like pretty much all Europeans, perhaps one of the very few advantages Euro guys may have over their American counterparts). He shouldn't be a black hole, and he should be able to be more than adequate in this department.
Defensively, he has some potential. Obviously his athelticism/size is reason enough for hope on this side of the ball. However, he isn't awfully quick laterally, and he is very weak at the moment. So right now I would have doubts about his ability to consistently guard SFs in the NBA. Again, so much of Vesely is potential - the tools are there but will he ever fulfill the potential? He has the physical attributes to contribute defensively. He already plays the passing lanes pretty well, he is a smart player and his long arms help him to disrupt the offense. I should point out that Vesely is a guy with a big work ethic and love for the game. So I think it's reasonable to assume that he will work hard. It's the dreaded P word again. He could potentially chip in with a couple steals and a block, as well as helping out on the defensive boards. But he will certainly need to get stronger though.
Now, even though I've already pointed out some of his weaknesses, here are some of the main doubts scouts have about him. Is he quick enough to play (and defend) SF at the next level? I think he could be, but maybe not right away. If it turns out that he isn't quick enough to play SF or doesn't have the skills to play it, then can he be an effective PF? I'm not sure he can be. He has the size, but he will get pushed around guarding guys 40lbs heavier than him. Is he strong enough for the NBA? In my mind, the answer to that at this point is no. He really needs to bulk up and hit the weights. His frame isn't huge but I don't see why he couldn't put on 20lbs of muscle and bulk up over the next couple years. It would help him alot. His hands are average at best. Is it due to lack of strength? Hard to tell, but I can't think of many players who've improved their hands over the years.
In short, here is what you're looking at with Vesely:
Strengths
  • Size
  • Athleticism and Length
  • Basketball IQ
  • Solid shooting, high release point.
  • Average ball handler
  • Defensive potential, could be solid rebounder.
Weaknesses
  • Very weak - doesn't have big frame.
  • Poor hands, fumbly.
  • Can't create own shot - average ball handling limits his effectiveness.
  • Is he a SF or PF?
So as you can see it's pretty hard to get a feel for where he should go in the draft, and how likely he is to fulfill his impressive potential. It should be pointed out that he is a good guy with a competitive streak and a good work ethic. He is productive on a good team in a good league. He's playing against good professionals at a young age, so it's certainly not something to be scoffed at. But is his potential enough to overcome his weaknesses? My personal opinion is that I like him. I wouldn't be upset at all if we took him with our pick as I think he could be a good fit with what he have - only problem is it would likely take some time for him to develop. That said, he's not my number one choice. He's just one of a few guys that I'd be happy with. Regarding the point of strength - I don't think he's any weaker than Casspi. So his lack of strength mightn't be as big as I've made out right off the bat. But you'd hope he can add muscle to his frame.
Here's a youtube video of some of his dunks. Do not expect to get a good picture of him from this, it's just a video of some of his dunks. No youtube video gives an accurate description of a player. The point of this video is just to show you his combination of size and athleticism. I think it's fairly clear that he's an explosive jumper for a guy of his size.

-- Courtesy of KF Scout Dime Dropper
 
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
Kingfans Scouting Report #2:

Jan Vesely: 21 years old, 6'11", 240lbs, Partizan Belgrade

Jan might be the most high-risk high-reward player in this years draft. Jan is an athletic enigma, an electric finisher who is a highlight reel waiting to happen. The question is, how much substance is behind the flash?

Right now, Jan is the most athletic wing player to ever come out of Europe. At 6'11", with long, wirey arms, and a thin build, he has a bodytype which based on appearance alone, resembles AK47. However, AK47 could never dream of having the athleticism Jan has, which is strikingly similar to a young Shawn Marion. Not only is Jan an explosive leaper, but he is very quick off his feet as well.

At this point, Jan's game is based on his athleticism, and motor. I would compare him to a young AK47, where he has the ability to guard 2-3 positions, switching from guarding the perimeter to the post, with out much trouble. He has very active hands on defense in the passing lanes, and is becoming more aggressive on that end as well.

His rebounding brings up questions. At his height, with his athleticism, he should be hitting the glass with better results than he has. Part of the reason for his low rebounding numbers is he's out on the perimeter guarding sf's, taking rebounding opportunities away from him. But he needs to learn to play a more physical style of basketball, and not rely on out-jumping the opposition.

Another question about Jan is his outside shooting, which will need to improve in order to become a respected sf in this league, which keeps the defense honest. I will say Jan's outside shooting has improved(to the point Jay Bayless called him a shooter after watching him in the Serbian championship), and he is not as poor of a shooter as many make him out to be. He does not have the ability to get his shot off in one-on-one situations, although has the potential, but has become a much more consistent spot-up shooter, out to the 3pt line. The mechanics on his shot have also improved considerably over the past 3 years, as he has shown the willingness to put time in in the gym.

Jan's ballhandling is underrated. While he can't stop and pop off the dribble, and isn't a one-on-one player, he can take defenders off the dribble from 15-23 ft from the basket. At this point, when beating a defender off the dribble he attacks the rim with anger. He does not have confidence in his mid-range ability, or the ability to pull up from 10 ft away. I expect this to gradually improve over times as he adds to his game. In comparison, he's a better ballhandler than either Omri or Donte at this point in time.

While there are many comparisons between Jan and AK47, mentality is not one of them, and might be what ends up making Jan successful in the league. He has a motor which doesn't stop, and a growing nastiness to his game. When driving to the basket, he doesn't look to draw fouls or get a shot off, but instead looks to cram it on your centers head, and frequently does just that. His passing ability is nowhere near the level of AK47, nor is his free throw %, which is downright poor, and has hovered in the 40-50% range all year.

What is Jan's ceiling? A more aggressive, much more athletic version of AK47. He will contribute defensively before he will on the other end. He has the potential to become a menace on the defensive end of the floor, not only by reaking havoc in the passing lanes and coming from the weekside to block shots, but also in his ability to defend multiple positions. As his jumper improves, which I definitely think it will to the point of keeping the defense honest, his role on offense will only grow.

Jan will not become a star on the offensive end. If he becomes a star, which he has the talent to become, it will be because he impacts the game in every way imaginable.

Numbers in prime: 15-18ppg, 5-7 rpg, 1-1.5 bpg, 1.5-2.3 spg

-- Courtesy of KF Scout rainmaker
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#3
I consider Vesely the 2nd most exciting player in the draft FOR US after Fredette. They will both get the crowd going. As he is right now, he is better than what we have at SF. I don't see him getting much stronger because of his frame. I also don't have a lot of hope for his perimeter defense (he's 6'11" for cripe's sake) and won't be an Artest or even levels below Artest. His length and foot speed should be a problem for shorter SFs. I don't know how quick his lateral movement is. I also have concerns about his shooting. What he does though is run the floor like an antelope and has hops. Some white men CAN jump. The big question is either will the fact he is a dunking machine be good enough (probably) and whether he will develop other skills. Other than in outside shooting, I am not confident about improvement. I am happy Petrie sent SAR to scout him as the prediction game is very difficult with him and he isn't a typical Petrie pick - shooter.

As we don't need a shooter, what he does may make him a better fit for the Kings than for less offensively blessed teams. He can run the floor and destroy the opposition with glee. This is his primary skill. He will posterize and take out the camera to memorialize it all at the same time.
 
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Bricklayer

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Yes, you don't see European players atack the rim like that very often.

Of course I said somethign similar about Yi Jinalin based on his Chinese league play so...
 
#5
Yes, you don't see European players atack the rim like that very often.

Of course I said somethign similar about Yi Jinalin based on his Chinese league play so...

I can assure you that Vesely is nothing like Yi, although I'm sure that's not what you were implying.

I like Vesely. He'll have to put on a little weight if he's to finish at the rim like that consistently in the NBA. He's a competitor, so he won't flame out due to lack of work ethic.
 
#7
Yes, you don't see European players atack the rim like that very often.

Of course I said somethign similar about Yi Jinalin based on his Chinese league play so...

Don't think we have to worry about him turning into Yi. This guys seems to have a lot of fire in him, unlike Yi who was so reserved and timid.
 
#8
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/6/16/2227984/jan-vesely-nba-draft-rumors-2011

Jan Vesely will work out for five teams on Sunday in his lone stateside appearance before the 2011 NBA Draft, reports Michael Lee of the Washington Post. Lee reports that the Washington Wizards -- a team consistently rumored to be heavily interested in the 21-year-old Czech small forward -- will be one of the teams in the gym in New Jersey to see Vesely. The others are the Utah Jazz (No. 3 and No. 12), Cleveland Cavaliers (No. 1 and No. 4) Toronto Raptors (No. 5) and Detroit Pistons (No. 8). The Wizards have the No. 6 pick in the June 23 draft.

The absence of the Sacramento Kings (No. 7) is notable, as they are considered a prime candidate for one of the draft's top-tier small forwards.


So this basically means no Vesely for sure?
 
#9
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/6/16/2227984/jan-vesely-nba-draft-rumors-2011

Jan Vesely will work out for five teams on Sunday in his lone stateside appearance before the 2011 NBA Draft, reports Michael Lee of the Washington Post. Lee reports that the Washington Wizards -- a team consistently rumored to be heavily interested in the 21-year-old Czech small forward -- will be one of the teams in the gym in New Jersey to see Vesely. The others are the Utah Jazz (No. 3 and No. 12), Cleveland Cavaliers (No. 1 and No. 4) Toronto Raptors (No. 5) and Detroit Pistons (No. 8). The Wizards have the No. 6 pick in the June 23 draft.

The absence of the Sacramento Kings (No. 7) is notable, as they are considered a prime candidate for one of the draft's top-tier small forwards.


So this basically means no Vesely for sure?

It would appear so. Very disappointing if true. What harm can there be in sending someone to watch?
 
#10
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/6/16/2227984/jan-vesely-nba-draft-rumors-2011

Jan Vesely will work out for five teams on Sunday in his lone stateside appearance before the 2011 NBA Draft, reports Michael Lee of the Washington Post. Lee reports that the Washington Wizards -- a team consistently rumored to be heavily interested in the 21-year-old Czech small forward -- will be one of the teams in the gym in New Jersey to see Vesely. The others are the Utah Jazz (No. 3 and No. 12), Cleveland Cavaliers (No. 1 and No. 4) Toronto Raptors (No. 5) and Detroit Pistons (No. 8). The Wizards have the No. 6 pick in the June 23 draft.

The absence of the Sacramento Kings (No. 7) is notable, as they are considered a prime candidate for one of the draft's top-tier small forwards.


So this basically means no Vesely for sure?

Reportedly Kings going to see him in New Jersey
 
#14
Link or source? Where did you hear this?

See Rainmaker and Hallama's posts below my friend :)



A lot of teams seems to be interested in him. and he reportedly impressed with his playoff play leading his team to the championship. Kings are probably going to be looking at this guy's jumper. We don't need anymore dudes that can't shoot on this team.
 
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#16
Not sure if Vesely will be better than Fredette, Leonard, or Tristan Thompson, but I'd love to have him just to see him posterize a Laker or two. That would be worth the price of admission. The euro-ghost of Tom Chambers.
 
#18
I've watched Vesely closely for the last 3 years playing for Partizan Belgrade and Bricklayer's analysis is spot on. I was going to add something about him, but it's all there. Given his determination and competitive spirit, I don't think that he'll have a problem putting on some weight/muscle and end up being a player somewhere between Nowitzki and Kirilenko. It will take some time, but if he stays injury free he will be a fun player to watch on offense and a glue on defensive end.