SLAB
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The Kings could hang banners with all the moral victories over the past X amount of years!
[Game] Kings @ Warriors, 10/23/2022 5:30pm Pacific, 8:30pm Eastern
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The Kings could hang banners with all the moral victories over the past X amount of years!
We should probably fill out a missing jumper report for Harrison Barnes at this point. 1 for 1 dude? Against Golden State?
ShastaKingsFan
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"Great"? Come on man. He showed up
Tetsujin
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Schedule makers still hate us.
iowamcnabb
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I’m curious what teams records are on the second game of a back to back.
Not sure I love us giving Keegan 38 mins on a 2nd night of a B-B after him recovering from Covid. I get we basically need him on the floor at all times, but got to be smarter with his minutes load.
-Holmes and Monk joined the party. As Sactownkid said, getting some PnR action worked perfectly. That's far more what we're expecting of them
- Sabonis 19/14/4 on 6-10 shooting in 22 minutes, but dang, it just didn't feel super impactful as that stat line suggests. Still, good to see him putting up his typical line.
-Fox continues the all-star push. Didn't have the shot tonight, but he's basically getting to the rim whenever he wants. 10-14 on 2pt FGA and 10ast/3TO ratio is excellent.
-Keegan continues to be a stud, I think was getting pretty tired near the end of his minutes there. He needs to start and he needs to overlap quite a bit with Fox/Sabonis to maximize them as a duo.
-Huerter hot shooting came to a close, but I think he mostly took good shots we want him pulling. Still just a
-Harrison Barnes... oof. Disinterested, bad on D, not hitting any shots, another 2-4 from FT. There's just no juice there when he plays and we see a notable difference when Keegan comes in or when TD/Monk(tonight especially) are in the game just from an effort level.
-Holmes and Monk joined the party. As Sactownkid said, getting some PnR action worked perfectly. That's far more what we're expecting of them
- Sabonis 19/14/4 on 6-10 shooting in 22 minutes, but dang, it just didn't feel super impactful as that stat line suggests. Still, good to see him putting up his typical line.
-Fox continues the all-star push. Didn't have the shot tonight, but he's basically getting to the rim whenever he wants. 10-14 on 2pt FGA and 10ast/3TO ratio is excellent.
-Keegan continues to be a stud, I think was getting pretty tired near the end of his minutes there. He needs to start and he needs to overlap quite a bit with Fox/Sabonis to maximize them as a duo.
-Huerter hot shooting came to a close, but I think he mostly took good shots we want him pulling. Still just a
-Harrison Barnes... oof. Disinterested, bad on D, not hitting any shots, another 2-4 from FT. There's just no juice there when he plays and we see a notable difference when Keegan comes in or when TD/Monk(tonight especially) are in the game just from an effort level.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
generally not great
16-8-7 and 3 steals in 28 minutes is "showing up?" Give me a damn break and get over your own bias that you've had since we signed him.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
If Monk really wanted to put up a great performance, he should have fouled out in 15 minutes like TD did.
iowamcnabb
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I loved seeing Keegan’s defense this game. I think he can for sure play the three after not being so sure in summer league. That is fantastic news for us.
SLAB
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Dang, that was Monk’s night? My viewing kept getting interrupted and really only noticed him clanking and airing a couple threes. Hopefully he keeps it up.
captain bill
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It feels like we haven’t seen the offense run thru Sabonis and the magic that brought just a little last year. He ran the floor some tonight but that’s it.
ShastaKingsFan
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He got some numbers in a blow out. It wasn't "great" play by any stretch. Have no idea what you're talking about with a "bias". I call it how I see it.
It took 2 games, but we're already at a point where we basically need him on the floor for every minute he can handle.
Kingz19
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Keegan with a nice little padder to close
well I appreciate that they didn’t roll over.
not as much to dissect as the other two games. They gave up a 50 point quarter against a far more talented team. That’s why they lost
Sabonis played pretty well. Seemed more like him. I seamless 19-14-4 and it seemed like a pretty run of the mill game from him. Nothing special…but if we got that in the other two games they win soundly.
Fox continues to play well though i didn’t like a couple shots he took near the end
Monk had an excellent game
Huerter played OK overall. Getting some boards. Creating a bit. Being involved and within the flow. He got his shots just wasn’t making them tonight. Most nights he will.
Keegan is an easy double figures already. He is also pretty solid defensively on wings. Though some of guards put him in the blender. I’d like to see some more of the floater and midrange as well. He’s very good. A little cold in the second half but those are great shots he got. He’s going to have a lot of big scoring games this season.
Mitchell had a rough one.
It was good to see Holmes find his offense.
Barnes is lost. Though as others noted, there might be a story going on we don’t know about with his trips to the locker room…but he’s hurting the team out there so if he’s ailing..maybe rest him.
well I appreciate that they didn’t roll over.
not as much to dissect as the other two games. They gave up a 50 point quarter against a far more talented team. That’s why they lost
Sabonis played pretty well. Seemed more like him. I seamless 19-14-4 and it seemed like a pretty run of the mill game from him. Nothing special…but if we got that in the other two games they win soundly.
Fox continues to play well though i didn’t like a couple shots he took near the end
Monk had an excellent game
Huerter played OK overall. Getting some boards. Creating a bit. Being involved and within the flow. He got his shots just wasn’t making them tonight. Most nights he will.
Keegan is an easy double figures already. He is also pretty solid defensively on wings. Though some of guards put him in the blender. I’d like to see some more of the floater and midrange as well. He’s very good. A little cold in the second half but those are great shots he got. He’s going to have a lot of big scoring games this season.
Mitchell had a rough one.
It was good to see Holmes find his offense.
Barnes is lost. Though as others noted, there might be a story going on we don’t know about with his trips to the locker room…but he’s hurting the team out there so if he’s ailing..maybe rest him.
You know, I came away with the exact opposite impression. I thought they were forcing the ball to Sabonis in the high post for long stretches and it mostly wasn't working. Nobody was able to create passing lanes so it was just a lot of horns action to shooters on the wings who couldn't create enough separation to shoot it cleanly because GS is good and sniffed out exactly what we were doing. In the second half we finally started to generate some momentum when we opened the floor up more and let our guards get into the paint.
The irony of you not understanding your bias in this sentence is pretty great.
SacTownKid
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They've been squeezing him down into the low post more than Gentry did also. Gentry ran pick and roll a plenty, Brown has been off and on running a lot more dribble hand off and split action, pin downs, etc.
iowamcnabb
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I actually thought he did pretty well defending guards too. Curry and others zipped by him but he did a pretty good job taking good angles to recover and he wasn’t scored on much.
ShastaKingsFan
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Yeah, I don't get your comment. I didn't give an opinion of Monk at all when he was signed. Are you confusing me with someone else?
No worries. Moving on
Sabonis reaction time just hasn't been great when he gets the ball either. He's dancing a lot with his footwork and by that time the double gets sent the set gets blown up. Not sure why he's been so indecisive so far, but it's not been great for the offense as a whole. It's really hurt him being the engine of the team like he was last year.
I think right now we look like a team with some really good talent that doesn't know how to play with each other yet. We basically just need to stop the bleeding the first 10 games and not totally take ourselves out of the race going through these growing pains. I look at these 3 games and you see a lot of really good potential upside. We really haven't been able to say that about many Kings rosters in the past.
I guess the biggest positive for me out of tonight is that an adjustment was made and the team started to turn things around. A couple of those misses at the end were rim-outs that were good shots and could have cut the lead to one basket if they went in. I expected them to do the typical Kings thing of just going with what isn't working over and over again and then subbing in the garbage-time crew for the last 10 minutes but this team showed some fight on a scheduled loss game (second night of a back to back on the road against a well rested GS state team who just lost their last game). If this is a playoff team and they hadn't already started 0-2 you easily write this off as "close enough" but we're not that team yet so the loss still hurts.
Yeah at what record does Davis chair start warming up? 1-5, 2-7, 5-13..etc?
Yeah, agreed. At least Sabonis is trending in the right direction. He still looks sluggish but he was basically sleepwalking through game 1 and game 2 wasn't much better. There were signs of life here. He did make that bad pass to Keegan in the corner and it looked like Keegan stonewalled his impish "my bad" grin which I thought was hilarious coming from a rook. He basically was saying "All-Stars don't get to make those dumb mistakes" with his body language. I feel like Sabonis knows that though, he's just a little slow finding his rhythm right now. The good thing about the NBA is that 1/3 of the league starts mailing it in by mid-February so a team can start slow and still make the post-season.
On the bright side, I am guessing that we are first in the league in hitting meaningless threes at the fourth-quarter buzzer.
Davis?
White_Chocolate
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My two biggest concerns are Barnes and Mitchell. We need a quality starter in Barnes’ spot (whether that is Barnes - maybe he finds his form ). Mitchell has to provide something outside of pesky defense. I think we are a solid squad ( play in maybe a bit better depending on team cohesion and growth). I’m not panicking yet, but it’s frustrating. It’s been frustrating since 2006 haha
Sorry Brown.....
sactowndog
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This team has potential but Fox needs to stop forcing crap down the stretch. He did so against Portland and in this game to poor effect. He has shooters in the game, collapse the defense and kick it out.
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