[Game] Kings vs Nuggets 1/26/14 11 AM JST/ 6 PM PST/ 9 PM EST

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Game 43
Sacramento Kings versus Denver Nuggets

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And one?
Well that happened. In one of the most improbable game in recent Kings history, Marcus Thornton, Isaiah Thomas, and the collection of guys not named Rudy or Boogie somehow managed to take arguably the best team in the league to overtime. Despite lacking the two players most people around the league would deem to be our best thanks to the misfortune that was the last game, what was left of our roster put up a fight and went the distance, presumably leaving it all out on the court.

So why are we all so angry?

Well, despite the end result, our ragtag bunch of scoring guards, role players, sixth men returning from injuries, and whatever the hell Travis Outlaw is were ahead and in the driver's seat for a lot of the game. Sure, momentum was starting to slip at the end of the third quarter but the lead was ours and Sleep Train Arena was pumped up and ready to go. Even as the fourth quarter progressed and the Pacers pulled tighter and tighter, we still felt like we were going to somehow pull it out. And then came the final stretch run and two of our most persistent nemesis's (nemisi?): terrible refereeing and heroball.

For the second game in the last week, awful officiating directly contributed to a Kings loss, though I'd have to say that this call was far worse than the Memphis debacle. Sureyou can make the argument that D-Will shouldn't have fouled at all but that foul was clearly on the floor and I am still having trouble trying to figure out how the hell the refs could have seen it otherwise seeing as how the argument could be made that George travelled anyways on that continuation. If anyone was wondering if Paul George is a superstar, the answer is yes. Only superstars get that call. That was a Kobe call, a Kobe play. Even if there was no four-point play opportunity, the shot would still be, as the scientists put it, clutch as hell. I have no idea how good the dude's going to be when it's all said and done but I think we can all agree that he's pretty special.

Meanwhile, the clock struck twelve and the Isaiah carriage once again turned into a pumpkin as he completely dominated the ball over the last ten or so minutes of the game, a stretch where it seemed that the littlest general took a billion shots and the hottest shooter on the team only took one. The Pacers defense is good enough without having IT freeze out the hot hand for the night. While IT put together an average night for most of the game, he still wound up with an almost 1 to 1 assist to turnover ratio with 5 TOS and 6 dimes. Couple that with the game sealing turnover and several ill-fated shots late in the game and IT is at the center of yet another late-game meltdown, which has done wonders for our site viewership but nothing but bad things for the fanbase in its entirety.

And so, at the end of the day, we lose and the debate rages on yet again, across every dimension and every realm of the Kings Fans domain. And when we argue about stupid things, we all lose. Even the dudes who are right.


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I feel like the awkward athletes-grind-together picture is a staple of the coverage of any sporting event.
Observations

The View From the Other Side

All posts taken from Pacers Digest.
  • 7:34 Woo WOOOOOOO. Sleep Train.
  • 8:17 This should be impossible to lose. IMPOSSIBLE.
    • 8:30 Never underestimate an opponent in dire circumstances. I believe it was the great basketball philosopher K.M. Garnett who once declared anything to be possible.
  • 10:56 I'm worried about the game tonight. With both Cousins and Gay out, other guys will play hard to prove themselves. If Marcus Thornton gets hot, then we may have a problem
  • 11:27 Sounds like Melo scoring 62 may not be the highest output of the night... #AttemptedJinx
  • 11:30 Jesus, what the hell!?!
  • 11:32 I'm very confident in our chances to win this game. But wow, really have to give Thornton and Co. Credit... Heck of a quarter.
  • 11:39 Danny Granger is absolutely killing us. Terrible effort.
  • 11:39 Giving up offensive rebounds in the rare case that the opponents miss is NOT a good idea.
  • 11:43 Maybe we can give up 124 pts again tonight.
  • 11:47 Time to turn this off for awhile.
  • 11:50 Ok, we need to hold them scoreless the last 6 minutes of the half
  • 11:53 The worst part is that we haven't even turned the ball over yet. We only have 1 turnover (Paul's offensive foul). What is going to happen when we start turning it over?
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    Let's hope that we don't.
  • 11:57 somebody need to tell Hill that he isn't guarding "that" Isaiah Thomas
  • 12:03 Man I have been wanting Thorton on the Pacers for years .. Is there anyway we can get him
  • 12:03 I'm watching Treehouse Masters on the Animal Planet channel....that's more interesting than this game now.
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  • 12:05 Aaron Gray is doing his best to keep us in this game, but he can't do it alone!
  • 12:06 How does Aaron Gray have an NBA gig? Awful.
  • 12:14 This thread is hilarious.
  • 12:15 We're fired up. There's no way the Kings will do what they did in the first half. I wouldn't be surprised if this thing turns very quickly and we win by 10+.
  • 12:28 That pass is just unbelievable by Lance. Who is the last player on the Pacers capable of that kind of pass?
    • 12:28 Tinsley.
  • 12:32 Issiah(I know I'm spelling that wrong) is a hell of an offensive player.
  • 12:36 Make Derrick Williams, Carl Landry, and Jason Thompson beat you.
  • 12:37 Lance is really gonna be the first player suspended for flopping. He just doesn't learn.
  • 12:40 PAUL ****ING GEORGEEEEEE
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  • 12:40 Paul George drawing boo's from the Sacramento crowd
  • 12:41 Snatch their souls from them
  • 12:44 Bill Spooner is a worthless piece of ****.
  • 12:46 Sacramento Kings of Flop
  • 12:48 I get it that Thornton is hot, but leaving him wide open for 3's isn't helping either.
  • 12:49 That was a nice fake lob there by Thomas to set up that three from Thornton. That's a CP3 move.
  • 12:52 wth is up with this officiating crew
  • 12:53 In my lifetime I have never ever seen that call go against the defender.
  • 12:59 Aaron Gray for Pacers MVP.
  • 1:00 Paul George needs to stop helping off Marcus Thornton. He's playing with gasoline right now. Make someone else besides Thornton and Thomas beat us.
  • 1:01 Kings should change their name to the Sacramento Floppers.

    Guess they've taken advantage of their location and decided to take acting lessons.
    • 1:02 Except Sacramento and Hollywood have 0 relation to each other.
      • 1:04 Because acting exists only in Hollywood.

        I bet nobody ever drives 5 hours for auditions and that no acting lessons take place in Sacramento.

        smfh
        • 1:05 Lets have an argument over which cities have the best acting lessons.
  • 1:12 Sign Isaiah Thomas.
  • 1:15 I love how Buckner just said "Thornton isn't gonna get a good look" just 5 seconds after his last wide open shot...
  • 1:16 Hibbert is a mental midget.

    You guys are hilarious for saying Oden wont stop him. This guy just isnt good offensively.

    Gray is punking him tonight.
  • 1:23 Geeze did this Sac team underwent flopping workshop or something?
  • 1:24 Thompson has two MEGA Flops tonight.
  • 1:25 That's just a great shot by Thomas. Well defended.
  • 1:26 What an amazing shot by Thomas. You have to tip your hat to that.

    Now, get the ball to David West in the post.
  • 1:28 Why do I feel like sacramento's chance of winning are better without Thompson...
  • 1:28 We really can't afford a loss tonight because we are definitely going to lose tomorrow night.
  • 1:28 Apparently the fact that he's ****ing short means Isiah Thomas can foul the hell of Hill on every single play...
  • 1:31 Who hits the game-winning three, Thornton or Thomas?
  • 1:32 Roy has the hands of bricks
  • 1:32 That loses it there.
  • 1:32 This is just sad....
  • 1:34
  • Yeah no denying it. This is a really bad loss
  • 1:35 Lol.

    Losing to the Kings. What else is there to do but laugh?
  • 1:35 This team still has a way to go. Losing two Sacramento without Cousins or Gay is the equivalent of losing to Milwaukee. Absolutely embarrassing and pathetic.
  • 1:37 Holy crap
  • 1:37 And then you remember you have an MVP candidate.
  • 1:37 Reggie Miller is reborn
  • 1:37 Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Sacramento being Sacramento...foul a guy on a 35-footer
  • 1:38 This is just going to make it more painful when Thomas or Thornton banks in a 3.
  • 1:40 Imagine a Lance Stephenson full-court game-winner. I'm pretty sure he would explode on the spot.
  • 1:42 This is insane.
  • 1:42 this game went from a huge dissapointment to a possible Paul George classic.
  • 1:45 I think that arena still has it's original late 80's scoreboard.
  • 1:50 What's the Sacto coach pointing at Lance for? ****ing asshat.
  • 1:51 The 5'9" guy is angry....
  • 1:52 Smallest effer on the court and we can't keep him from shooting.
  • 1:54 I wanted Thomas so bad this summer.
    • 1:56 I am convinced. If no Lance sign him to play a few minutes. Not bad defensively either
      • 1:59 I don't know if you are confused, but Thomas is not some random scrub going off. He is going to make at least 10 million a year.
  • 1:57 Paul George just embarrassing Thomas there.
  • 1:58 In Paul We Trust.
  • 1:59 AHHHH. I turned it off with about 18 seconds to go in regulation. What happened?
    • 2:04 It escalated very quickly, then Paul killed a guy with a trident.
  • 2:00 I LOVE THIS TEAM
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Tonight's Game

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Another game, another struggle without Cuzudy. Thankfully, the Denver Nuggets are nowhere near the team that the Indiana Pacers are, which isn't to say they're a bad team, just that the Pacers are quite adept at the sport. With our two half-court churners presumably out of the game, I'd expect this to be a faster paced game, featuring two heroball scoring shortguards (not including Nate Robinson) and a relative lack of big man highlights. Considering how neither team is currently equipped to play much defense of any kind, things could get explosive in the Keith Smart sense of the word. Lots of points, lots of heroball, lots of chucking.

The backcourt is where I'd expect a lot of the action to happen today. Denver features Ty Lawson, a rich man's IT (a couple inches taller, a little better at defense, a better passer while not being as explosive a scorer as the Pizza Gentleman). Backing him up is another beta-testing model of IT in Nate Robinson, a man who wrote the book on heroballing in the modern NBA. Meanwhile, Andre Miller is probably sitting on a toilet somewhere playing Angry Birds. While I don't expect either side of the point guard battle to be able to stop each other, the guard who maintains his composure the most in the fourth quarter probably wins. The Nuggets start Randy Foye alongside Lawson. A guy who I keep forgetting is still in the league, Foye is kinda like Marcus Thornton except 30 years old and not as explosive a scorer. Conveniently for him, he gets to face Marcus Thornton, who was on pace to eclipse the 50 point mark until some of his teammates decided to shut him down against the Pacers. Of late, Marcus has made some modest attempts to play defense so he has that going for him.

It's seemingly a miracle that the Nuggets have won as many games as they have. With a front court boasting a rotation of JJ Hickson, Ken Faried, and Timofey Mozgov, I'm hard pressed to think of a team that would likely be on the cusp of the playoffs. While there's nothing particularly wrong with any of them, none of the three really stand out as more than hustle guys. It's really a shame that Cuz probably won't play because this is one of those games where he would have probably been able to cut through their big guys like a knife through butter. As is, Carl Landry is the wild cared here. If he rounds further into form and can provide a threat in the post, it will help to open up opportunities for IT/MT/D-Will. My sleeper pick for matchup of the game is Fareid versus Acy. Two smaller bigs who rely on their energy and surprising athleticism to make themselves useful.

Prediction and Closure
I'm predicting a comeback palette cleansing win after last game and the chaos of the last couple of minutes.
 
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VFTOS is done. Gonna go grab some caffeine from the convenience store and hammer out the rest of this bad boy in a bit.
 
Saw most of Nuggets vs Pacers game yesterday, and have to say:
1. Gray will be lucky to get 10 minutes.
2. Acy on the other hand will see a lot of time.
3. Williams might get torched by Chandler - he was just feeling it yesterday.
4. Battle of chuck brothers will be a show.
 
I guess the Kings flop a lot? Judging by the other side view.

Well just from my observations I always thought that we do indeed flop quite a bit. JT was flopping trying to draw fouls on West, IT almost always flops/exaggerates contact any time he gets the tiniest bit of contact going around a screen. Cuz has also learnt to exaggerate contact when he cuts across the lane trying to establish position, but in his case I really don't blame him. So yes, the Kings do flop a lot. But I'm guessing so do all the other teams if you paid careful attention to them.
 
Well just from my observations I always thought that we do indeed flop quite a bit. JT was flopping trying to draw fouls on West, IT almost always flops/exaggerates contact any time he gets the tiniest bit of contact going around a screen. Cuz has also learnt to exaggerate contact when he cuts across the lane trying to establish position, but in his case I really don't blame him. So yes, the Kings do flop a lot. But I'm guessing so do all the other teams if you paid careful attention to them.

They are learning to flop especially JT. However, I wonder how many charges we get are considered by opposing fans as flops? Seems to me if a foul is called, it erases the idea that it is a flop.
 
We could actually small ball our way to victory here.

IT and MT go off. Plus a big game from one of Landry, Williams, or JT.
 
I like the Nuggets here, without Gay and Cousins we need to play a helter skelter type game, which is exactly what Denver does every single night. We have a chance if we catch them on a bad night(possible as they are playing a back to back).
 
No traffic at the tickets part of the site
I have 2 tickets for tonights game. can't go. 2 for 1. $25 for both. I live across from arco. Let me know if someone wants them.
 
Denver plays their style with purpose: yesterday, whenever Hibbert and West were on the floor, Lawson and Co were pushing insane pace: Faried got quite a few at the rim shots by simply outrunning his opponent. But when Indiana went smaller due to foul trouble, Nuggets had no problems pounding through the middle.
 
We could actually small ball our way to victory here.

IT and MT go off. Plus a big game from one of Landry, Williams, or JT.

Its their natural setting.

Unfortunately as it has been with all of our stupid loser smallball offense oriented teams for half a decade now, the other team does it better, and with an eye on the final score, not their own numbers.
 
BTW, note of interest, IT took 31 shots last time, which made him only the 5th King in Sacramento history to take that many FGs in a game (Webber did it 6 times, Mitch 2, and Simmons and Bibby 1 each, + now IT).

Wonder what the over/under is for this one?
 
BTW, note of interest, IT took 31 shots last time, which made him only the 5th King in Sacramento history to take that many FGs in a game (Webber did it 6 times, Mitch 2, and Simmons and Bibby 1 each, + now IT).

Wonder what the over/under is for this one?

I"m surprised Tony Delk didn't hit 31.......
 
Over/under is his height in inches

Final score prediction: Den 157 Sac 143. Isaiah scores 57 and Marcus shoots 23 3's

I doubt Marcus will get the chance to shoot 23 3's. With all the high scoring records being made IT probably tries to beat Wilt's record in this one.
 
Damn at least 2 more games of watching this team without the 2 best players :(

and i highly doubt they can replicate the performance from friday night, Thornton is only good for a hot shooting night about once a year
 
Damn at least 2 more games of watching this team without the 2 best players :(

and i highly doubt they can replicate the performance from friday night, Thornton is only good for a hot shooting night about once a year
Where did you read that may I ask? Do you mean both will will at least two more games or just one of them?
 
it isn't confirmed but i read they might not even travel with the team to Utah tomorrow so that doesn't really sound good for their chance to play tomorrow night
 
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