The only argument against him starting is that the 2nd lineup needs his scoring, and he'll be able to get more opportunities with the backup vs. starters
[Game] Kings vs. Clippers, 10/22/2022 7pm Pacific, 10pm Eastern
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PorchSurfin
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I've been saying this for 2+ weeks and getting so much pushback for it. But it is what make sense.
sactowndog
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I think Monk will quickly lose his spot in the rotation to Davis
The only thing I don't get is the folks that agree with us but say "Brown won't do it". I don't think he'll do it tomorrow night, but I think he'll be doing it by January at the latest.
Tetsujin
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Wait until next season when we can get a combined 70-75 Murray minutes between Keegan and Kris.
SacTownKid
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The question is as what though? Him trying to run offense isn't something he's ever been known for.
My in person take
Fox easily our best player and second best player on floor tonight. PG was spectacular
Keegan Murray was the best defensive guy on PG….he’s more physical than KZ
Domas has 4-5 guys on him every time he touches it in the paint
Holmes is bad
Monk, Davion, HB AND Domas off to a slow start….that won’t last
Clippers have like 32 full sized wing guys it seems. Defensively, they are really good. It’s encouraging and frustrating after 2 games as we look good but missing FT’s is a hell of a way to lose a game.
Fox easily our best player and second best player on floor tonight. PG was spectacular
Keegan Murray was the best defensive guy on PG….he’s more physical than KZ
Domas has 4-5 guys on him every time he touches it in the paint
Holmes is bad
Monk, Davion, HB AND Domas off to a slow start….that won’t last
Clippers have like 32 full sized wing guys it seems. Defensively, they are really good. It’s encouraging and frustrating after 2 games as we look good but missing FT’s is a hell of a way to lose a game.
I'm not worried about Monk either. 2 bad games doesn't throw out 2 quality years of player growth that he's had. Once we get his role ironed out, he should be fine.
The only 2 guys who are "uh oh, something looks really off" at this point are Barnes and Holmes. Davion shot hasn't been good, but the defense is still there and he's getting that mid-range creation move locked down. Would like him to be better, but he's not "Uh oh" territory quite yet.
captain bill
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When I go back beyond 25 years, Peja was drafted in 96 but didn't play until J-Will's rookie year ... beyond that I don't see anyone we drafted in the 90s likely to have dropped more than 20 on their debut except maybe Brian Grant, Walt Williams or L-Train. Wonder who it was or if they just didn't want to bother going back almost 40 years. Outside chance of Tyus Edney I guess.
reptilexcq2
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I always thought Keegan Murray is a starter, I don't know why they didn't start him. He's got the length to play D, he can block shot, rebound, shoot, assist, poise...I mean what more do you need? Experience? Of course. But if you're talking about experience...how is Okpala a starter? I knew nothing about him...never heard of him until today.
Oh and by the way, Malik Monk is terrible. I thought he's going to be great after having heard how good he play for the Lakers last year. But he is just terrible...he's out of control driving to the basket (lacking awareness), turning over the ball...can't shoot, doesn't do anything well. I guess he want to be a Kings so he and Fox can hang out and forget about practice and honing his game? He should not get any minutes from what I seen the last two games. There is a reason Mike Brown bench him for a stretch in the 2nd Half...he seen enough. Terrence Davis should be coming off the bench, not him. This team is still learning to play D under Brown. But I think Keegan need to start right now!
Oh and by the way, Malik Monk is terrible. I thought he's going to be great after having heard how good he play for the Lakers last year. But he is just terrible...he's out of control driving to the basket (lacking awareness), turning over the ball...can't shoot, doesn't do anything well. I guess he want to be a Kings so he and Fox can hang out and forget about practice and honing his game? He should not get any minutes from what I seen the last two games. There is a reason Mike Brown bench him for a stretch in the 2nd Half...he seen enough. Terrence Davis should be coming off the bench, not him. This team is still learning to play D under Brown. But I think Keegan need to start right now!
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
It really doesn't matter who starts but I think a good way to build is to figure out who makes the game easiest for Fox/Sabonis. That's your engine. We've seen Harkless being the defensive bandaid the last few seasons, give me the shooting/spacing/talent and figure it out later. The potential for the bench is there but Davion has struggled playing actual backup PG this year and Holmes has done nothing on either end. Although offensively he's not really getting his typical looks either. If he does and buys in bench productivity should be solved.
captain bill
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Portland felt like 2 bad teams playing each other and us losing to a team we should be slightly less bad than
Tonight felt like 2 good teams playing and losing against a more seasoned team that had the better night
Tonight felt like 2 good teams playing and losing against a more seasoned team that had the better night
Yeah, mostly agreed. The problem we're having is the lead cogs off the bench have been so bad when we're built in a way where we should be crushing those minutes. Along with sub-par Sabonis performances and downright awful Barnes games with the starters.
Regardless, don't think any major changes should be made until you at least get some sort of a sample on what's going on. After 2 games, where we mostly just beat ourselves out of being 2-0, I think just assuming guys start performing to expectation is the better route than drastically overhauling the off-season plan.
HndsmCelt
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Agreed, which is why I was so perplexed not to see Alex get some minutes especially when Holmes sucked so badly.
I agree that a larger sample size is needed and I also think Brown is still doing some game time assessments with the bench and some will see expanded minutes while others will be cut dramatically in short order.
serbiangoat
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Miami could really use Harrison Barnes just saying.....Not sure pairing Monk/Mitchell two low IQ players on offense is a great idea either.
Barnes has been killing us latelly.... Not sure what happened to his shot.
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