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Fresno King
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Hey we ourebounded them 55-38!!!
Williams had 10 boards in 15 minutes!!!
Hawes had 12 points and 6 rebounds!!!
Francisco had 31 points!!!
Salmons played 41 minutes, so he won't be pissed off!!!
I'm grasping at straws!!!
Williams had 10 boards in 15 minutes!!!
Hawes had 12 points and 6 rebounds!!!
Francisco had 31 points!!!
Salmons played 41 minutes, so he won't be pissed off!!!
I'm grasping at straws!!!
PurpleHaze
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Final: Phoenix Globetrotters 127 Sacramento Generals 111
Pretty much to be expected with no Ron or Beno. But hey, Sac won the second half 48-47. Kinda reminded me of when the real Globetrotters do all their stunts in the first half to go up big and then let the Generals rally a tiny bit just to make it interesting
Pretty much to be expected with no Ron or Beno. But hey, Sac won the second half 48-47. Kinda reminded me of when the real Globetrotters do all their stunts in the first half to go up big and then let the Generals rally a tiny bit just to make it interesting
kingsfan916
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JW was looking good in the paint
Jechtsphere
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lol it's supposed to be pretty deep.
Yeah, excellent draft this year. Top couple of picks will be franchise players, and the ones several lower aren't shabby either.
piksi
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well if You get a top 3 pick - any draft is deep enough
PurpleHaze
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http://www.draftexpress.com/
Draft Express rates top 30-60 NBA draft prospects with Mayo, Beasley and Rose the top 3 - according to them.
Draft Express rates top 30-60 NBA draft prospects with Mayo, Beasley and Rose the top 3 - according to them.
Jechtsphere
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I noticed when Hawes did try to go down low he gets no push to back his man down or get better position in the first place.
Once he really gets stronger he can be pretty good down there.
Once he really gets stronger he can be pretty good down there.
piksi
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Even Kobe isn't good enough to carry a team by himself
This comes as a surprise? I mean, I think Martin's a great talent, and Petrie definitely got a steal taking him 26th in the draft... But honestly, you could swap him out with Morris Peterson or DeShawn Stevenson or JR Smith on this team, and probably get the same result... And we'd be just as bad.
Bricklayer
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Well, I think he is better than any of those guys (possibly Smtih might be comparable, but the guy is such a moron we'll never know).
But I heartily agree that a) this should come as no surprise; and b) that its not even really how he should be judged. Ironically as always its people who buy into the hype and get over-hyped about a player like Kevin that are the most likely to be disappointed wiht him when he "fails". But he hasn't really. He is what he is. A very good scorer. Not much else. A 4reb 2ast type guy noi matter how many points he scores (in other words average or below at eveyrthing except putting it in the hoop). He might make a solid #2 guy on a good team (although his seeming struggles to find his way alongside Artest and Bibby raise some questions there -- can he function wiht a player higher in the pecking order?). He would make an absolutely potent #3 guy. But as a #1....he's just a scorer. If the other team lets him get off, then he can be dangerous. But only rarely is he going to carry you and make the whole team better. And that's just who he is. And its not a disappointment, or a what's the matter with Kevin. Its just who he is, and he can only do what he's capable of doing.
I wasn't disputing that. And both of those guys (Stevenson and Peterson) have actually shown that, even with minutes, they're nothing special. On the other hand, neither of those guys have been the number-one option on an NBA team, either.
Basically, all I was trying to say is that Martin is good at what he does, and should become an All-Star, but I have my doubts that he'll ever be a superstar, or the centerpiece for a winning team.
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KingsCitizen
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Maybe Martin is trying to show his not liking the way the ball hoggers are playing in this team now.
Entity
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Even though it was not NBA starter level talent. Justin Williams showed his hustle and capabilities to dominate the glass when he got some time. Watkins showed that he is still unmotivated as he was in college and just doesn't show the hustle it takes. He probably has until the garunteed money deadline to show he is can get that fire in him or he will no longer be with us maybe some trade fodder along the line.
AleksandarN
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kevin reminds me of this guy. I do not think he is a number 1 option but a good second option
kevin reminds me of this guy. I do not think he is a number 1 option but a good second option
Reminds me more of Ray Allen or Reggie Miller. He's a better slasher than those guys though, except maybe Ray. Still though I think he'd be a good #2 more than a good #1. But who knows. We just need to get some other guys around him and become a good team again. If he had a PG who could make plays for him like Derrick Rose, well just look at what JKidd does for Vince Carter. And Theus is asking him to rebound, that just takes away from him doing what he's good at-scoring. If we were a good team, we'd have bigs that can rebound and we wouldn't need to have him be one of our best rebounders. We need atleast a supporting cast for the guy and probably an offensive player that's as good as or better then he is.
Big Cuz 15
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Yeah, if it weren't for Hawes' 4 turnovers, they would have made one perfectly dandy PF/C between them. Maybe not a Camby, but a Lee, or easily a Haslem, which isn't bad for guys with an average of maybe 2 hours of NBA PT.
In 35 minutes (combined): 18 points on 8 of 14 shooting, 16 boards (9 offensive, 7 defensive), one block and one PF.
GoGoGadget
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That's the concern that I have with Kevin's game.
I definitely acknowledge and appreciate all that he is capable of, but he's getting to the point in his career where we can't really blame the meanies for not passing him the ball anymore -- either he's got to settle into being a productive #2 guy, or get aggressive enough to make himself a #1 guy (and that includes broadening his repertoire to include more than scoring and getting to the free throw line). So far, he hasn't really done either of those things.
I know, Brick, that you've pointed out the similarities before, but it's very reminiscent of some of the questions that always lingered around Peja's game.
GoGoGadget
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Also, I know that his offensive explosion of the last two nights is the very definition of a fluke, and I'm realistic about his talent level and place in the league, but... I really miss Brian Skinner.
Big Cuz 15
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what is it going to take for the maloofs to realize this team stinks and needs to move in another direction? are going to continue to "refurbish" this team? i'm tired of seeing minutes being given to thomas rather than a young player that could use it.
KingsCitizen
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what is it going to take for the maloofs to realize this team stinks and needs to move in another direction? are going to continue to "refurbish" this team? i'm tired of seeing minutes being given to thomas rather than a young player that could use it.
I just hope that playing Thomas at this time is only part of the marketing strategy by the Kings. And hopefully he'll be packing before January. I mean having some teams see him play may just increase his marketability(although it's close to 0%).
Trading Garcia+Douby + KT/SAR may just be interesting enough as trade bait for a bench player that can distribute the ball enough and some draft picks.
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