[Game] Kings @ Pelicans 2/5/2023 4pm Pacific 7pm Eastern

[NewArena]

K, i've calmed down now. Good to see the Nuggets blown out by 30 without their star as well

Horrible timing by Fox but it's not his fault of course

 

[SLAB]

Monte, hop on the phones please. If Kyrie can be traded for garbage, surely we can get a decent backup PG and/or Center

There’s a pretty solid entire book of reasons Kyrie was traded for garbage. The rest of the sane NBA fall under “Gobert Trade” level returns.

 

[NewArena]

Unless the league realized that the Gobert trade was stupid, and is now doing a course correction.

I think that's exactly it. That Gobert trade is worse than any trade Vlade ever made

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

when he slumps, he slumps hard. he needs more confidence in himself imo

He definitely does not appear to be on track for that third-straight Rookie of the Month award.

 

[206Fan]

has anyone noticed Sabonis taking a step back defensively compared to 20ish games ago? He doesn't seem to offer much resistance at the rim. It could be the fatigue getting to him. Very thankful to him as our all-star, but his defense is dreadful sometimes. At the same time, is our perimeter defense ever going to get better? how do we allow them to shoot 53.8% from 3pt?

For being a defensive guru...Mike Brown kinda sucks at it

 

[KF8]

do you know what the wins are?

Denver and I don't remember the other

 

[Tetsujin]

Yeah, but if Irving weren't Irving, that type of player is getting a Gobert level package. Wow, can't believe that's actually a thing, lol.

Kyrie is a free agent this summer, which also devalues him quite a bit in addition to him always being injured and apparently impossible to get along with. I’d argue DFS alone is worth more than a bunch of pick swaps too. The perfect modern 3-and-D wing. Dinwiddie gets to play for the team he had the most success with again. Feels like the Nets crushed this trade even if they gave away the far-and-away “best” player.

 

[Tizzy Flip]

Denver and Charlotte

Yep, and Denver was on a B2B along with us

 

[kingsboi]

I'm curious...what is the Kings' record when facing opponents on a back to back?

 

[iowamcnabb]

Denver and I don't remember the other

that back to back was against us. 1-7 against teams who are on the back to back and we have fresh legs. Even worse haha

 

[206Fan]

They're just as boned when their star is out too, haha.

eh... it's a big difference. We were just without our 2nd best player. They were without: Jokic, Murray, Gordon, KCP, and Hyland.

 

[kingsboi]

has anyone noticed Sabonis taking a step back defensively compared to 20ish games ago? He doesn't seem to offer much resistance at the rim. It could be the fatigue getting to him. Very thankful to him as our all-star, but his defense is dreadful sometimes. At the same time, is our perimeter defense ever going to get better? how do we allow them to shoot 53.8% from 3pt?

For being a defensive guru...Mike Brown kinda sucks at it

Sabonis was never a rim protector going back to his OKC and Indiana days. It's unfair to Brown to try turning a bunch of offensive minded players into defense, he is a championship winning coach but even that is too much to ask.

 

[iowamcnabb]

I'm curious...what is the Kings' record when facing opponents on a back to back?

kf8 answered that. 2-8. One of the win was a back to back against us vs Denver

 

[NewArena]

Kyrie is a free agent this summer, which also devalues him quite a bit in addition to him always being injured and apparently impossible to get along with. I’d argue DFS alone is worth more than a bunch of pick swaps too. The perfect modern 3-and-D wing. Dinwiddie gets to play for the team he had the most success with again. Feels like the Nets crushed this trade even if they gave away the far-and-away “best” player.

I’m confused on why they passed on CP3, crowder and picks though. Unless they know something about CP3 that we don’t. He’s not the same, but, Dinwiddie? Eh.

 

[chief bromden]

has anyone noticed Sabonis taking a step back defensively compared to 20ish games ago? He doesn't seem to offer much resistance at the rim. It could be the fatigue getting to him. Very thankful to him as our all-star, but his defense is dreadful sometimes. At the same time, is our perimeter defense ever going to get better? how do we allow them to shoot 53.8% from 3pt?

For being a defensive guru...Mike Brown kinda sucks at it

Sabonis is the same as he has always been: average at best on defense, definitely not a rim protector. Seems like he has kept his fouls in check which is the most I could hope for.

Mike Brown isn't out there playing defense so not sure it's his fault, and honestly, I think it's almost impossible to defend consistently these days with the way the game is designed. I watch a lot of games and most games come down to shot making variance, iso crunch time offense, and how fouls are being called

 

[iowamcnabb]

Sabonis had a really great stretch of defense earlier but I think he is worn out.

 

[SLAB]

has anyone noticed Sabonis taking a step back defensively compared to 20ish games ago? He doesn't seem to offer much resistance at the rim. It could be the fatigue getting to him. Very thankful to him as our all-star, but his defense is dreadful sometimes. At the same time, is our perimeter defense ever going to get better? how do we allow them to shoot 53.8% from 3pt?

For being a defensive guru...Mike Brown kinda sucks at it

At least he makes up for it by not being Luke Walton or Ty Corbin or Kenny Natt or George Karl or Kieth Smart or ….

 

[SacTownKid]

Sabonis was never a rim protector going back to his OKC and Indiana days. It's unfair to Brown to try turning a bunch of offensive minded players into defense, he is a championship winning coach but even that is too much to ask.

And Brown's defensive scheme has been a little exposed this year. Sabonis has actually been really impactful on defense at the rim this year though. It's actually quite surprising.

 

[Tetsujin]

I’m confused on why they passed on CP3, crowder and picks though. Unless they know something about CP3 that we don’t. He’s not the same, but, Dinwiddie? Eh.

I’m guessing there were protections on the picks. Also CP3 has been worse than his numbers indicate this season, is 37 going on 38 years old, and is making 60 million dollars over the next two seasons, which would absolutely make it impossible for the Nets to do anything to improve their team. It’s a bit of the same logic as the C-Webb moveable pieces deal except Dinwiddie and DFS are actually good and not Kenny Thomas.

 

[iowamcnabb]

Ellis 10 points 4 rebounds 2 assists 2 steals and a block. Filling the stat sheet

 

[The_Jamal]

has anyone noticed Sabonis taking a step back defensively compared to 20ish games ago? He doesn't seem to offer much resistance at the rim. It could be the fatigue getting to him. Very thankful to him as our all-star, but his defense is dreadful sometimes. At the same time, is our perimeter defense ever going to get better? how do we allow them to shoot 53.8% from 3pt?

For being a defensive guru...Mike Brown kinda sucks at it

I mean did anyone really think 38+ MPG he plays basically every night out wouldn't catch up to him? Also the broken thumb probably isn't too helpful to playing 100%, although he's done a famn good job of masking that.

If we don't find a fix here at the deadline, Monte has to make find someone who can play 15+ MPG in that slot. 33-34 MPG Domas would absolutely help keep him effective and healthy

 

[DynaPamm]

Just embarrassing and maddening as hell. I just turned it off didn’t even make it all the way through second quarter; hit fast forward hoping to see a increase in our numbers but before I knew it I hit delete. SMFH

 

[reptilexcq2]

I didn't bother to watch. I hate watching games where key guys are out.

 

[NewArena]

Im saving this for the Houston games… even without Fox (potentially) you cannot lose to that team.

Tides are truly turning because im already over this loss lol

 

[NewArena]

has anyone noticed Sabonis taking a step back defensively compared to 20ish games ago? He doesn't seem to offer much resistance at the rim. It could be the fatigue getting to him. Very thankful to him as our all-star, but his defense is dreadful sometimes. At the same time, is our perimeter defense ever going to get better? how do we allow them to shoot 53.8% from 3pt?

For being a defensive guru...Mike Brown kinda sucks at it

That could be part of the fatigue. He has to do a lot and needs more help, but, the perimeter defenders need to be much MUCH better.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

With the recent play, including the home losses, I don't see this team securing a top 6 seed. There's too much experienced talent in the teams they're competing with for these spots, that will play well down the stretch.

Regardless of who plays and who doesn't, for whatever reasons, most of us realize this will likely come down to a game or two making a big difference.

 

[NewArena]

With the recent play, including the home losses, I don't see this team securing a top 6 seed. There's too much experienced talent in the teams they're competing with for these spots, that will play well down the stretch.

Regardless of who plays and who doesn't, for whatever reasons, most of us realize this will likely come down to a game or two making a big difference.

eh, those experienced teams are suffering from the same kinda losses right now. This season is just different

 

[NewArena]

Am i trippin or did we not already play in Houston? How do we have two more games in their building

 

[QWERTYLICIOUS]

All Star Weekend couldn't come at a better time for us. We need the rest. We need to refuel. We need to refocus. All is not completely lost, yet, but you can kind of see where the brutality of the NBA schedule might be slowly creeping up on us. We have 5 games left before the break (2 @ Houston, 2 Vs Dallas, 1 @ Phoenix). My wish is for us to just show up for all 5 games. I don't care about wins. I don't care about losses (OK, maybe I care about wins and losses, but that's not my point here). I care that we just continue to play Kings basketball. We continue to fight. We continue to tell the league that we're back.

And then, after the break, we gear up for that postseason push.

The "2nd half" of the season is gonna be wild, Kings fans!!! I can't wait to jump on board and enjoy this ride with y'all!!!

 

[QWERTYLICIOUS]

Am i trippin or did we not already play in Houston? How do we have two more games in their building

You be trippin'. We played them at home...