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has anyone noticed Sabonis taking a step back defensively compared to 20ish games ago? He doesn't seem to offer much resistance at the rim. It could be the fatigue getting to him. Very thankful to him as our all-star, but his defense is dreadful sometimes. At the same time, is our perimeter defense ever going to get better? how do we allow them to shoot 53.8% from 3pt?

For being a defensive guru...Mike Brown kinda sucks at it
 

Tetsujin

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Yeah, but if Irving weren't Irving, that type of player is getting a Gobert level package. Wow, can't believe that's actually a thing, lol.
Kyrie is a free agent this summer, which also devalues him quite a bit in addition to him always being injured and apparently impossible to get along with. I’d argue DFS alone is worth more than a bunch of pick swaps too. The perfect modern 3-and-D wing. Dinwiddie gets to play for the team he had the most success with again. Feels like the Nets crushed this trade even if they gave away the far-and-away “best” player.
 

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has anyone noticed Sabonis taking a step back defensively compared to 20ish games ago? He doesn't seem to offer much resistance at the rim. It could be the fatigue getting to him. Very thankful to him as our all-star, but his defense is dreadful sometimes. At the same time, is our perimeter defense ever going to get better? how do we allow them to shoot 53.8% from 3pt?

For being a defensive guru...Mike Brown kinda sucks at it
Sabonis was never a rim protector going back to his OKC and Indiana days. It's unfair to Brown to try turning a bunch of offensive minded players into defense, he is a championship winning coach but even that is too much to ask.
 
Kyrie is a free agent this summer, which also devalues him quite a bit in addition to him always being injured and apparently impossible to get along with. I’d argue DFS alone is worth more than a bunch of pick swaps too. The perfect modern 3-and-D wing. Dinwiddie gets to play for the team he had the most success with again. Feels like the Nets crushed this trade even if they gave away the far-and-away “best” player.
I’m confused on why they passed on CP3, crowder and picks though. Unless they know something about CP3 that we don’t. He’s not the same, but, Dinwiddie? Eh.
 
has anyone noticed Sabonis taking a step back defensively compared to 20ish games ago? He doesn't seem to offer much resistance at the rim. It could be the fatigue getting to him. Very thankful to him as our all-star, but his defense is dreadful sometimes. At the same time, is our perimeter defense ever going to get better? how do we allow them to shoot 53.8% from 3pt?

For being a defensive guru...Mike Brown kinda sucks at it
Sabonis is the same as he has always been: average at best on defense, definitely not a rim protector. Seems like he has kept his fouls in check which is the most I could hope for.

Mike Brown isn't out there playing defense so not sure it's his fault, and honestly, I think it's almost impossible to defend consistently these days with the way the game is designed. I watch a lot of games and most games come down to shot making variance, iso crunch time offense, and how fouls are being called
 

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has anyone noticed Sabonis taking a step back defensively compared to 20ish games ago? He doesn't seem to offer much resistance at the rim. It could be the fatigue getting to him. Very thankful to him as our all-star, but his defense is dreadful sometimes. At the same time, is our perimeter defense ever going to get better? how do we allow them to shoot 53.8% from 3pt?

For being a defensive guru...Mike Brown kinda sucks at it
At least he makes up for it by not being Luke Walton or Ty Corbin or Kenny Natt or George Karl or Kieth Smart or ….
 
Sabonis was never a rim protector going back to his OKC and Indiana days. It's unfair to Brown to try turning a bunch of offensive minded players into defense, he is a championship winning coach but even that is too much to ask.
And Brown's defensive scheme has been a little exposed this year. Sabonis has actually been really impactful on defense at the rim this year though. It's actually quite surprising.
 

Tetsujin

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I’m confused on why they passed on CP3, crowder and picks though. Unless they know something about CP3 that we don’t. He’s not the same, but, Dinwiddie? Eh.
I’m guessing there were protections on the picks. Also CP3 has been worse than his numbers indicate this season, is 37 going on 38 years old, and is making 60 million dollars over the next two seasons, which would absolutely make it impossible for the Nets to do anything to improve their team. It’s a bit of the same logic as the C-Webb moveable pieces deal except Dinwiddie and DFS are actually good and not Kenny Thomas.
 
has anyone noticed Sabonis taking a step back defensively compared to 20ish games ago? He doesn't seem to offer much resistance at the rim. It could be the fatigue getting to him. Very thankful to him as our all-star, but his defense is dreadful sometimes. At the same time, is our perimeter defense ever going to get better? how do we allow them to shoot 53.8% from 3pt?

For being a defensive guru...Mike Brown kinda sucks at it
I mean did anyone really think 38+ MPG he plays basically every night out wouldn't catch up to him? Also the broken thumb probably isn't too helpful to playing 100%, although he's done a famn good job of masking that.

If we don't find a fix here at the deadline, Monte has to make find someone who can play 15+ MPG in that slot. 33-34 MPG Domas would absolutely help keep him effective and healthy
 
Just embarrassing and maddening as hell. I just turned it off didn’t even make it all the way through second quarter; hit fast forward hoping to see a increase in our numbers but before I knew it I hit delete. SMFH
 
has anyone noticed Sabonis taking a step back defensively compared to 20ish games ago? He doesn't seem to offer much resistance at the rim. It could be the fatigue getting to him. Very thankful to him as our all-star, but his defense is dreadful sometimes. At the same time, is our perimeter defense ever going to get better? how do we allow them to shoot 53.8% from 3pt?

For being a defensive guru...Mike Brown kinda sucks at it
That could be part of the fatigue. He has to do a lot and needs more help, but, the perimeter defenders need to be much MUCH better.
 
With the recent play, including the home losses, I don't see this team securing a top 6 seed. There's too much experienced talent in the teams they're competing with for these spots, that will play well down the stretch.

Regardless of who plays and who doesn't, for whatever reasons, most of us realize this will likely come down to a game or two making a big difference.
 
With the recent play, including the home losses, I don't see this team securing a top 6 seed. There's too much experienced talent in the teams they're competing with for these spots, that will play well down the stretch.

Regardless of who plays and who doesn't, for whatever reasons, most of us realize this will likely come down to a game or two making a big difference.
eh, those experienced teams are suffering from the same kinda losses right now. This season is just different
 
All Star Weekend couldn't come at a better time for us. We need the rest. We need to refuel. We need to refocus. All is not completely lost, yet, but you can kind of see where the brutality of the NBA schedule might be slowly creeping up on us. We have 5 games left before the break (2 @ Houston, 2 Vs Dallas, 1 @ Phoenix). My wish is for us to just show up for all 5 games. I don't care about wins. I don't care about losses (OK, maybe I care about wins and losses, but that's not my point here). I care that we just continue to play Kings basketball. We continue to fight. We continue to tell the league that we're back.

And then, after the break, we gear up for that postseason push.

The "2nd half" of the season is gonna be wild, Kings fans!!! I can't wait to jump on board and enjoy this ride with y'all!!! :p:p:p
 
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