Kings looking to move Landry for 1st rounder & $3M cash?

I would take any 2011 first rounder and cash for him now. I know we don't need 3 or 4 more rookies on an already young team. I am all about acquiring assets. I don't think Landry will be an asset to us past the trade deadline.
 
I don't think it'll happen but I'd do it. Especially since he'll be entering his 3rd year next year and I'm getting tired of dealing with rookies. I'd do it as long as it is top1-2 protected.
 
asakkings said:
I just saw an article saying that Warriors would be open to trading Steph Curry for the right package. How about our #1 pick and Landry for Steph. I feel like he's the perfect compliment guard to Tyreke, he can play on and off the ball. He also has high basketball IQ and we won't get someone with his credentials for that #1 pick.

What do you guys think?

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawaka...ade-is-off-limits-for-the-warriors-joe-lacob/
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That probably just means that if someone comes to him with Melo for Curry+filler he would take it.
 
est.1999 said:
I don't think it'll happen but I'd do it. Especially since he'll be entering his 3rd year next year and I'm getting tired of dealing with rookies. I'd do it as long as it is top1-2 protected.
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I think Curry would fill a need more than another top 5 rookie would. I'd be game. I seriously question whether GS would entertain such an offer, though, unless Nelson is coming back to play Landry at center.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
Several responses already, but...

According to Wiki, his injury in college was an ACL. But he's never had any trouble in the NBA, and I think this is a morbid attempt at humor given the Oden/Roy/Camby issues this year.
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I should have researched farther. The first Wiki that came up didn't mention the ACL injury. But if I typed in injury, a different one came up and did mention it. However if never said how servere the injury was. Whether it was a strain of a tear or whatever. I agree with you though on the humor part since he's had no problems since, and ACL problems aren't nearly as bad as knee problems that require microfracture surgery..
 
bajaden said:
I'm a little confused by this statement. To the best of my knowledge Landry has no history of knee injuries. He had a foot injury at Purdue and had to sit out one year, but has had no reoccurence of the injury. The only other thing I can remember was, while with the Rockets he was shot in the leg while sitting in his car at a fast food resturant by a random drive by shooter. The wound wasn't serious and I think he only missed 3 or 4 weeks.

So I don't know where they get the knee injury stuff.
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It's called posturing. They're trying to get Landry on the cheap. It's that simple.
 
bajaden said:
I should have researched farther. The first Wiki that came up didn't mention the ACL injury. But if I typed in injury, a different one came up and did mention it. However if never said how servere the injury was. Whether it was a strain of a tear or whatever. I agree with you though on the humor part since he's had no problems since, and ACL problems aren't nearly as bad as knee problems that require microfracture surgery..
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With ACL injuries a lot relies on the athlete to do what is considered a pretty grueling rehab. TEchniques have gotten much better. Some palyers who have had ACL surgeries (as seen by a search of several sites):

NBA : Al Harrington; Baron Davis (college); Bonzi Wells; Nene; Danny Manning; Ron Harper; Sean Elliot (at age 14, but he opted for no surgery!); Bernard King (1st player to come back and make an Allstar team); Bob Lanier (in the Final 4)

NFL (could be a really long list): Barry Sanders; Jerry Rice; Carson Palmer
 
bajaden said:
It remains to be seen how weak the draft will be. I'm a little higher on it than some, and it never hurts to have an additional first round pick. The pick could used to comsumate a possible trade at some point. It could also be used as a fallback, if we were to deal our original first round pick in a trade. To be honest, some of the players that I really like, and that might fit the Kings needs, aren't worthy of a top 5 pick, but would be a nice pickup in the middle of the round.

When you consider that the Maloofs are trying to find money anywhere they can, its probably a win/win as far as they're concerned.
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You're probably right. I will differ to you when it comes to college basketball, but from what I've seen and read so far, there isn't much to get excited about when picking in the mid-late teens this year. I have no problem with a top 5 pick, because whoever we draft there should be able to step in and help us next year. I don't really see the point in getting even younger than that by taking what could amount to a project later in the 1st round. IMO, aside from our top pick, this team needs to start surrounding its youth with vets(who still have a few years at the top, a Granger/Wallace type), instead of going even younger.

If we had a different coach, and this organization had shown the ability to develop young talent, I might feel differently. Tyreke is getting his time, and so is Cousins. Same as Omri, finally, to a certain extent. But the way in which Westphal/Petrie have developed JT/Donte/Omri(up until a few months ago), by constantly altering their roles and playing times, makes me nervous about drafting someone who isn't ready to step in immediately.

Going into next season, I can see the same type of marketing as we saw this past summer, talking playoffs and "Here We Rise" type stuff. Wins and losses will mean more next year. We will most likely sign at least 2 FA's who can step in and help. I could see it being a mess for a rookie who needs time and patience. We already have one in Whiteside who will need to be developed over the next couple of years, and I'm not confident in this organizations ability to develop more than one youngster at a time going forward. Westphal ahs already shown he would rather bench Cousins for final 16 mins of a game, and play Dally instead, so we can chase our 10th victory of the season. And that is one example of many. What will happen with Donte once Cisco comes back?

Of course getting something for Landry is better than him walking and getting nothing. It will free more time up for JT, and possibly Whiteside. I am waiting to see what Petrie does with our cap space after the new CBA is in play. It's a waiting game, and I'm not crucifying Petrie at this point, and will take a wait and see approach. I'm well aware next summer is when Petire will look to make a splash in FA.
 
rainmaker said:
Westphal ahs already shown he would rather bench Cousins for final 16 mins of a game, and play Dally instead, so we can chase our 10th victory of the season.
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Cousins needed benching because he wasn't bringing it that night, and Dalembert was. Overall, I generally agree with everything else you said.
 
MANoICE said:
Done and Done. I think there is some potential great value in the mid to late first round this year. Or package up the 2 second rounders with the later first rounder and move up and get two key pieces.

This season is lost anyway, we might as well play the young guys and see what we have.
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Yah but when has Petrie ever packaged mid/late picks to move up? I don't remember him ever doing so. If he has then my bad :D
 
rainmaker said:
You're probably right. I will differ to you when it comes to college basketball, but from what I've seen and read so far, there isn't much to get excited about when picking in the mid-late teens this year. I have no problem with a top 5 pick, because whoever we draft there should be able to step in and help us next year. I don't really see the point in getting even younger than that by taking what could amount to a project later in the 1st round. IMO, aside from our top pick, this team needs to start surrounding its youth with vets(who still have a few years at the top, a Granger/Wallace type), instead of going even younger.

If we had a different coach, and this organization had shown the ability to develop young talent, I might feel differently. Tyreke is getting his time, and so is Cousins. Same as Omri, finally, to a certain extent. But the way in which Westphal/Petrie have developed JT/Donte/Omri(up until a few months ago), by constantly altering their roles and playing times, makes me nervous about drafting someone who isn't ready to step in immediately.

Going into next season, I can see the same type of marketing as we saw this past summer, talking playoffs and "Here We Rise" type stuff. Wins and losses will mean more next year. We will most likely sign at least 2 FA's who can step in and help. I could see it being a mess for a rookie who needs time and patience. We already have one in Whiteside who will need to be developed over the next couple of years, and I'm not confident in this organizations ability to develop more than one youngster at a time going forward. Westphal ahs already shown he would rather bench Cousins for final 16 mins of a game, and play Dally instead, so we can chase our 10th victory of the season. And that is one example of many. What will happen with Donte once Cisco comes back?

Of course getting something for Landry is better than him walking and getting nothing. It will free more time up for JT, and possibly Whiteside. I am waiting to see what Petrie does with our cap space after the new CBA is in play. It's a waiting game, and I'm not crucifying Petrie at this point, and will take a wait and see approach. I'm well aware next summer is when Petire will look to make a splash in FA.
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Actually there are several players that I'm excited about that would be available in the mid to late teens. Ironic that two players you mentioned as guys that could help the team in Wallace and Granger, were both picked in the lower half of the first round. If you do your homework and choose wisely, you just might come up with someone thats better than a top 10 pick. Does Landry Fields jog anyone's memory.

I agree that the team needs some veteran leadership. And I'm not talking about a Cisco type player, but a star type player that the young guys will respect and listen to. But that would have nothing to do with another draft pick in the first round. That pick should be looked at as an asset, to be used in whatever way possible to help the team.
 
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4ne3jgy

KNICKS/KINGS trade

This is really a way for the Knicks to get some big guys to play with them because they need some bigger bodies and they get a SF and the Kings get a SF and a C that can get some playing time in the Kings lineup while on loan.

KINGS GET: Curry, Chandler, Mason
KNICKS GET: Landry, Casspi, Dalembert, '13 protected 1st or 2nd round pick
 
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4vc5k8x

KINGS/GRIZZLIES/PACERS Trade

KINGS GET: Granger, Thabeet, S.Young
GRIZZLES GET: Casspi, Dunleavy, Protected Future 1st Rnd or 2nd Rnd
PACERS GET: Landry, Mayo, Garcia, 2nd Rnd

Kings would be giving up the 1st/2nd Rnd picks and aquire Granger
Grizzles get a young SF and shooter in Dunleavy but they get rid of Mayo for future picks and don't lose scoring and gain defense
Pacers get SG in Mayo and backup SG Garcia but they really get a much needed a big man to help out the front line with Landry and a possible future 1st rnd pick

Most of the contracts are short term and don't hurt teams salary caps expect for Granger in which the Kings want a player like him for a longer term.
 
Lafayette said:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4ne3jgy

KNICKS/KINGS trade

This is really a way for the Knicks to get some big guys to play with them because they need some bigger bodies and they get a SF and the Kings get a SF and a C that can get some playing time in the Kings lineup while on loan.

KINGS GET: Curry, Chandler, Mason
KNICKS GET: Landry, Casspi, Dalembert, '13 protected 1st or 2nd round pick
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Not overly thrilled with this trade. I have no use for Curry, and I'm not a big fan of Mason's. I like Chandler, but I'm not sure he's that much beter than Casspi down the road. So I'm not sure I'd trade Casspi straight up for Chandler, much less throw in a draft pick, and I wouldn't come close to giving up a first round pick. In your trade your giving the Knicks a good defensive center and a PF that can score 15 pts a game and Casspi and a first round pick. Potentially 4 servicable players, and in return, were getting 1 servicable player, because I don't consider either Curry or Rodger mason players I want on my team.
 
Lafayette said:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4vc5k8x

KINGS/GRIZZLIES/PACERS Trade

KINGS GET: Granger, Thabeet, S.Young
GRIZZLES GET: Casspi, Dunleavy, Protected Future 1st Rnd or 2nd Rnd
PACERS GET: Landry, Mayo, Garcia, 2nd Rnd

Kings would be giving up the 1st/2nd Rnd picks and aquire Granger
Grizzles get a young SF and shooter in Dunleavy but they get rid of Mayo for future picks and don't lose scoring and gain defense
Pacers get SG in Mayo and backup SG Garcia but they really get a much needed a big man to help out the front line with Landry and a possible future 1st rnd pick

Most of the contracts are short term and don't hurt teams salary caps expect for Granger in which the Kings want a player like him for a longer term.
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This one is better, but I still don't want to give my first round pick. You want to throw in the second round pick fine. I love Granger, and I like Sam Young. Not a fan of Thabeet. But if he's just a throw in, I'll take him on the hope that the basketball fairy will visit him in the night and work some magic.
 
bajaden said:
Not overly thrilled with this trade. I have no use for Curry, and I'm not a big fan of Mason's. I like Chandler, but I'm not sure he's that much beter than Casspi down the road. So I'm not sure I'd trade Casspi straight up for Chandler, much less throw in a draft pick, and I wouldn't come close to giving up a first round pick. In your trade your giving the Knicks a good defensive center and a PF that can score 15 pts a game and Casspi and a first round pick. Potentially 4 servicable players, and in return, were getting 1 servicable player, because I don't consider either Curry or Rodger mason players I want on my team.
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The idea of this trade is to aquire Chandler and dump the other 2 at seasons end and I could see trade going down with just a 2nd round pick
 
Landry for mid-late first is pretty much best case scenario IMHO.

We arnt going to get much more than that, and its better than just letting him walk....Or (nightmare scenario) actually resigning the bum.


Lotta decent players are nabbed in the middle of the first roung too. We can gamble on someone, or grab us a roleplayer. I think thats pretty good for Landry.

In a perfect world, we would have traded Martin for something better...Ah well, at the time the trade seemed win/win. Not our Petrie's fault Westphal gets the worst out of his players.
 
Id be all about that type of deal for just Landry, I would def trying to package up one of our sfs and swapping first rounders with Indy for Granger though. I like what Landrys given us but I'm not fooling myself into thinking he's worth a long term deal here I would rather give that money to Dally.

A couple pages back there was Steph Curry talk and that my friends is the guy who we need next to Reke he can catch fire in a instant and is def more of an ideal match with Reke than Monta. Sadly I believe GS parts with him for a known star so its pretty safe to say that's not happening for us.
 
Lafayette said:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4ne3jgy

KNICKS/KINGS trade

This is really a way for the Knicks to get some big guys to play with them because they need some bigger bodies and they get a SF and the Kings get a SF and a C that can get some playing time in the Kings lineup while on loan.

KINGS GET: Curry, Chandler, Mason
KNICKS GET: Landry, Casspi, Dalembert, '13 protected 1st or 2nd round pick
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Yikes.. We are giving them the farm for a bunch of scrubs.
 
Lafayette said:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4vc5k8x

KINGS/GRIZZLIES/PACERS Trade

KINGS GET: Granger, Thabeet, S.Young
GRIZZLES GET: Casspi, Dunleavy, Protected Future 1st Rnd or 2nd Rnd
PACERS GET: Landry, Mayo, Garcia, 2nd Rnd

Kings would be giving up the 1st/2nd Rnd picks and aquire Granger
Grizzles get a young SF and shooter in Dunleavy but they get rid of Mayo for future picks and don't lose scoring and gain defense
Pacers get SG in Mayo and backup SG Garcia but they really get a much needed a big man to help out the front line with Landry and a possible future 1st rnd pick

Most of the contracts are short term and don't hurt teams salary caps expect for Granger in which the Kings want a player like him for a longer term.
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Watch out, word is that the Pacers are going to be cleaning house... hopefully Petrie is reading this board.
 
Lafayette said:
Watch out, word is that the Pacers are going to be cleaning house... hopefully Petrie is reading this board.
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Yes, they are shopping Danny Granger who is having an off year by scoring 20.5 ppg. A couple years ago he made 25 ppg. He has not been mentioned in trade talk although that may not mean anything. He would be the third stud and I think the Kings would give up a lot to get him except for Cousins and Reke. Because the team would undoubtedly win more until the end of the year, that #1 draft pick might not be as valuable as it is at the moment. In any case, three stars is what a team needs, esp. when they are roughly the same age. Pacers don't need Dalembert but I could see Casspi, JT and our #1 draft pick for Granger. Maybe more. It might be that one trade that takes us over the hump and I don't think we should play hard ball.
 
asakkings said:
I just saw an article saying that Warriors would be open to trading Steph Curry for the right package. How about our #1 pick and Landry for Steph. I feel like he's the perfect compliment guard to Tyreke, he can play on and off the ball. He also has high basketball IQ and we won't get someone with his credentials for that #1 pick.

What do you guys think?

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawaka...ade-is-off-limits-for-the-warriors-joe-lacob/
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Are you kidding me? If that trade were available you do it YESTERDAY. Curry would be a perfect fit with Tyreke. I'm thinking no way GS takes that trade though...
 
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