I don't want to hate him but considering I apparently had him way overvalued in the $12-14 range but he felt he was too good for us, I won't miss him.
Kings extend QO to Willie Cauley-Stein
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good question.Where did our man Ozy go?
SLAB
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Sounds like something he does in his spare time. Listens to Mandarin Chinese Rosetta Stone lessons while painting his latest masterpiece.
Where did our man Ozy go?
He got angry that a mod took his mock draft out of his Draft Prospects thread and put it into a new thread (to try to increase its exposure) and he left in a huff.
kingsfan1984
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Not surprisingly one bit. Been saying since the mid way point that he will be getting a rude awakening in free agnecy. Not worth over 10 mil. Look at the kack of big offers Capela got, and if Capella is the "Gold" standard of WCS archtype, then willie is not copper but zinc pennies in comparison.
Dime Dropper
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That's very surprising. Willie might feel that contributing to a contender will increase his value. Have to imagine it's a short deal but that's an assumption on my part.
I have to say, I don't really like the comments here. I know Willie wasn't the most popular here, but people can show more class. It's not as if he did anything terrible during his time here. I wish him all the best, as long as it's not against the Kings.
I have to say, I don't really like the comments here. I know Willie wasn't the most popular here, but people can show more class. It's not as if he did anything terrible during his time here. I wish him all the best, as long as it's not against the Kings.
kingsfan1984
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Big plate of crow waiting for him if he comes back
kingsfan1984
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Is willie getting kess than Looney?
Entity
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Latrell Spreewell was the best al time. Turned down 3 years 21 mil. This was back in 2004-2006. That was nice contract back then. Nobody else offered. He retired
Kings_of_California
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I don't know why I'm so mad. The reason I started following the Kings in the first place is because I was a big fan of his coming out of the draft. Now he's betrayed me and joined a team I hate more than words can describe.
And I've got a feeling the Warriors will turn him into what he was supposed to be, on a minimum contract no less. I hope I'm wrong. And I hope Willie is still lazy.
And I've got a feeling the Warriors will turn him into what he was supposed to be, on a minimum contract no less. I hope I'm wrong. And I hope Willie is still lazy.
Dime Dropper
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Funnily enough, I think the Kings withdrawing the QO might have played a part in tanking his value.
Kings_of_California
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He signed near minimum deal.
Kings_of_California
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And don't forget, he said "I need to feed my family" LOL
SLAB
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Lmao... okay then.
AleksandarN
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LMAO. That serves him right
Padrino
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Surprising to me, as well. I was among those who wanted to see him re-signed if the money was right, and I figured somewhere in the $10-$12 million range would be a steal. I understand that Willie was unpopular with a sizable segment of the fanbase, but he's just coming off his rookie contract. He's still only 25, and while he'll likely never live up to the potential many saw in him on draft day, he's absolutely a rotation big in the NBA, and certainly an above-minimum player.
Kings_of_California
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I wonder how the convo with his agent went:
"So uhh Willie...I uh...well, I have an offer"
"Ok what is it?"
"Well, it's from the Warrio-"
"Oh sh*t really!!!?"
"Yea...but for near minimum..."
*silence*
"So uhh Willie...I uh...well, I have an offer"
"Ok what is it?"
"Well, it's from the Warrio-"
"Oh sh*t really!!!?"
"Yea...but for near minimum..."
*silence*
This is shocking to me.
I have to figure it's related to off-the-court stuff and his obvious motivation problems, because he brought a lot more that a min contract to the table.
He had serious issues defending right at the rim (oddly, because that's one thing he should excel at) and he never got his jumper working, and his FTs sucked, but still, he put up 6.7 Win Shares last season (that's worth like $20M), WS/48 of 0.148 (well above average of 0.100), VORP liked him fine at 2.3, his PER was 18.0...all of the "basic" advanced stats liked him or loved him. He's got great size and great mobility for a big man, he can handle a switch onto a perimeter guy better than most big men ... and there was literally no market.
I don't get it.
chief bromden
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This may really hurt his fashion game...
farewell Willie, I enjoyed your time here. You also gave us one of the great quotes:
Cause that's my guy!!
farewell Willie, I enjoyed your time here. You also gave us one of the great quotes:
Cause that's my guy!!
Kings_of_California
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Yea as much as I dislike him now, I definitely agree he is worth way more than this near-minimum. Any chance he actually agreed to play for that amount instead of big $ somewhere else? He was always so high on himself. Hmm.
You know, if you really feel the need how about you serve that crow up to me instead, seeing as I took the same position he did. I'm not a big fan of watching the crowd gang up on another guy, but I can take it myself.
SLAB
Hall of Famer
Eye test and intangibles. Things the stat sheet doesn’t show.
(I do think he’s worth more than the minimum to... someone.)
Jkbiker
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All Willie had to do was Try Hard to do his Job, Bring it every night, Tried to be a team player,
Actually showed Vlade he really wanted to be here, not be a self centered Jerk
and he could have been paid well right here
Vlade, the team, the fans could have overlooked some of his weaknesses
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We ended up with two Hardworking Centers , they can shoot FT 's, Stretch the floor, Gee I think they can catch Lobs too
Bye Willie
Actually showed Vlade he really wanted to be here, not be a self centered Jerk
and he could have been paid well right here
Vlade, the team, the fans could have overlooked some of his weaknesses
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We ended up with two Hardworking Centers , they can shoot FT 's, Stretch the floor, Gee I think they can catch Lobs too
Bye Willie
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LA King Fan II
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Only guys around here that ever over valued themselves more than WCS are DeMarcus Cousins and Bricklayer.
Ryle
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Willie seems to be a tremendous athlete that grew to 7 feet tall. If you look at his bio he was a really good football player in high school and actually had a scholarship offer to play at Kansas. Unfortunately there aren't many 7 foot receivers at any levels so I would guess he decided to play basketball full time. Just don't think his heart is in the game and he just wants to get paid. My guess is he has a really good season and then gets his contract and he goes back to his old work habits.
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