[KINGS] Comments that don't warrant their own thread (Redux)

Vinny Basketballerino

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kingsfan101 said:
Well India is a big country with lots of languages. Our Vivek and the other Vivek are from different parts of India and speak completely different languages, not to talk of different pronunciations. The word itself has Sanskrit origins, but will be spoken differently in different parts.

Bottom line, there is no right answer. So, have fun.
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There's probably a right answer but I've never heard Vivek make a big deal about it.

The pronunciation rule in Sanskrit in general in the in multi-syllabic words, the second to last syllable gets the emphasis. ran-a-DI-ve. I'm not completely sure but I think those guidelines would have it pronounced VI-vek - and I have heard what appears to be more conscientious commentators say it that way. My guess is because we hear anyone say it that way, that's probably the native way to say, because the default English way would be vi-VEK.

Either way - Vivek doesn't seem to be a stickler about it.
 
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Vinny Basketballerino said:
There's probably a right answer but I've never heard Vivek make a big deal about it.

The pronunciation rule in Sanskrit in general is the in multi-syllabic words, the second to last syllable gets the emphasis. ran-a-DI-ve. I'm not completely sure but I think those guidelines would have it pronounced VI-vek - and I have heard what appears to be more conscientious commentators say it that. way. My guess is because we hear anyone say it that way, that's probably the native way to say, because the default English way would be vi-VEK.

Either way - Vivek doesn't seem to be a stickler about it.
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I think the sticking point though is the other guy doesn't do -eck at all, he does -ayk.

But yeah, the other part is the first syllable being a 'vuh-v' vs a 'viv'. I think the long a sound in the second syllable is the point of contention though. I agree with the "not everyone speaks the same way" logic, I am just surprised when he bought the team there was no video where he said "Hi I'm Vivek Randive" anywhere :D nor in any of his TED talks. I think I saw one with Malcolm Gladwell but I got enough of him on Bill Simmons the other day. :D
 
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mrlaze said:
Iooked into it a bit. Obviously there's the 16 division games. Then you play 36 in conference games. With either a 3 or 4 game series. Then 30 from the opposing conference. So with few exceptions the west teams all have it a bit harder. You'd really only get a break if your non division, in conference, 3 game series was with whoever you considered the top teams in the west. So then it comes down to who you play out of conference and those don't matter that much for playoff seeding. So in my opinion difficulty of sechdule isnt that important of a stat. It tells you how hard your out of conference schedule is more than anything.
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I assume strength of schedule at least factors in back to backs and tried to account for "scheduled losses" more than anything? Whoever gets the most of those on their schedule gets the hardest schedule moreso than just the best team in the league should have the easiest schedule just on account of not having to play against themselves?
 
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bubulina said:
By the way, good episode of Game Theory podcast today. Extensive Kings'talk. No Dunks, this one and Thinking Basketball are my preferred ones.
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Yeah. At risk of turning this into the bball podcast thread, Game Theory is pretty much my favorite NBA podcast out there with Vecenie being one of the best (if not the best) talent evaluators not currently employed by an actual team and (frequent co-hosts) Coach Spins and Mark Schindler being really solid in that regard too. Helps that all three guys are into the Kings.

Amick and Anthony Slater’s tampering pod is usually pretty solid too and tends to have lots of Kings topics thanks to both guys living in Sacramento but it’s also usually buried on the Athletic NBA feed behind like five other shows that I absolutely have no interest in listening to.

Elsewhere, I still enjoy listening to the Mismatch, even if I think KoC has increasingly become a huge fuddyduddy dweeb with nothing of value to contribute to the greater basketball conversation. The NBA Front Office show is another good occasional listen even if it can get a little dry at times and too Laker/Celtic focused (Keith Smith used to run CelticsBlog and the other co-host runs a Lakers site) but they do a good job of breaking down cap implications and the like during any big move. The Dunker Spot is another good hoops podcast even if each episode can get a little long. Also answers the question “Did Snapper Jones have a son?”
 
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Vinny Basketballerino said:
There's probably a right answer but I've never heard Vivek make a big deal about it.

The pronunciation rule in Sanskrit in general is the in multi-syllabic words, the second to last syllable gets the emphasis. ran-a-DI-ve. I'm not completely sure but I think those guidelines would have it pronounced VI-vek - and I have heard what appears to be more conscientious commentators say it that. way. My guess is because we hear anyone say it that way, that's probably the native way to say, because the default English way would be vi-VEK.

Either way - Vivek doesn't seem to be a stickler about it.
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Impressive. I should have paid more attention in my Sanskrit classes in middle school :)

That said, my original point was that the pronunciations can differ very drastically from region to region. I guess that's true everywhere, but more so in India, where different regions have completely different languages. In any case, let's return to BB rather than Sanskrit/Tamil phonetics :)
 
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kingsfan101 said:
Impressive. I should have paid more attention in my Sanskrit classes in middle school :)

That said, my original point was that the pronunciations can differ very drastically from region to region. I guess that's true everywhere, but more so in India, where different regions have completely different languages. In any case, let's return to BB rather than Sanskrit/Tamil phonetics :)
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Sanskrit?
You're majoring in a 5000 year-old dead language?!
 
Vinny Basketballerino

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Impressive. I should have paid more attention in my Sanskrit classes in middle school :)

That said, my original point was that the pronunciations can differ very drastically from region to region. I guess that's true everywhere, but more so in India, where different regions have completely different languages. In any case, let's return to BB rather than Sanskrit/Tamil phonetics :)
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Namaste my dude. :cool:
 
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Sanskrit?
You're majoring in a 5000 year-old dead language?!
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Was the third language I learned in middle school.

Many kids in India learn two and even three languages from elementary school. I learned two, and was required to study a third language in middle school. Sanskrit was the one I chose, since my mother tongue is derived from it, making it easier for me to learn. Remember little now though.
 
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macadocious said:
I'd like to lose more trades then.
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For whatever reason, post-stomp Domas seemed to reinforce this opinion that Domas is a late season disappearing act for people that have blissfully ignored his career. I just can't believe people can write off the stomp or the ridiculous officiating the Dubs received that allowed them to continue to maul Domas for the remainder of the series.
 
Vinny Basketballerino

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For whatever reason, post-stomp Domas seemed to reinforce this opinion that Domas is a late season disappearing act for people that have blissfully ignored his career. I just can't believe people can write off the stomp or the ridiculous officiating the Dubs received that allowed them to continue to maul Domas for the remainder of the series.
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This right here. Somehow the fact that they were absolutely murdering the man and getting away with it seems to conveniently escape people. This was some of the worst officiating I've seen since... well... you know.
 
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So I am just wondering, but if you had a choice between Austin Reaves and Kevin Huerter, who would you pick? They both had month long slumps where they both shot > 33% 3pt. This doesn't deserve its own thread or anything. I was just looking at both the players games on youtube and they seemed a bit similar (game wise, not because they are white). They play the same position, same age, Huerter is 2" taller but otherwise they are pretty much the same build.

Personally I would go with Huerter but only 51 out of 100 times.. The other 49 I would go with Reaves lol
 
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