Kings and free agency - part 2

[rainmaker]

Why the hell would we offer Brewer more than 8M/Y?

Good lord. Backup SF isn't a big enough of a weakness to dole out that kinda money for that dude. Go after Koufas or another 3rd big.

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 3m3 minutes ago Land O' Lakes, FL
Talks between the Sacramento Kings and Patrick Beverley are progressing, according to sources. They may be nearing a deal.

That's good news but I wonder what that means with Rondo/DC. We don't need Rondo, Beverley and DC.

 

[sactownfan]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 25s25 seconds ago
ESPN sources say Corey Brewer has spurned richer offer from Sacramento Kings to stay in Houston on a three-year deal in excess of $23 mil

Wow, we offered him more than $8 million? No thanks.

Im 100% sure that God is finally intervening here in that these deals and we are being saved from ourselves...

Ellis, Brewer, Mathews....maybe Rondo? These are dodged bullets...

Im happy Dallas got Mathews .... the odds of him getting back to 90 let alone 100% are slim and theres no chance he's gonna be the defensive stopper he was before... Paying him more than Cousins and Gay with that injury is madness

 

[Bosnian Diehard]

I get the feeling that we may be making some things up and sending the info to the media to give Cuz the impression that we are being extremely aggressive and want to win.

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 3m3 minutes ago Land O' Lakes, FL
Talks between the Sacramento Kings and Patrick Beverley are progressing, according to sources. They may be nearing a deal.

If true, that means no Rondo.

Or we are using Beverley as leverage to push Rondo.

 

[206Fan]

Collison is better than Beverly. I don't want Collison and his agent to be PO at the FO too..

 

[Bricklayer]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 3m3 minutes ago Land O' Lakes, FL
Talks between the Sacramento Kings and Patrick Beverley are progressing, according to sources. They may be nearing a deal.

Be nice, but I would assume mean that Rondo said no?

And I called Brewer earlier -- he worked well with Karl, and we are doubtless still looking for a perimeter defender with Belli signed.

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

I get the feeling that we may be making some things up and sending the info to the media to give Cuz the impression that we are being extremely aggressive and want to win.

That can backfire though. It creates an impression that we always get rejected and its time to go.

 

[Amit149]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 57s57 seconds ago
Memphis has shown a willingness on sign-and-trades with free agent center Kostas Koufos, an option the Clippers will need to investigate.

Why would Memphis do that? Kings need to steal him away

The Clippers doen's have match to offer- if Memphis loves Jamal Crawford they can send him with some change to them, that's better than losing him for nothing and Jamal is on an expiring deal...

Anyway, I'm not crazy about Koufos for us- I really like him as a player, but I don't see him sharing the floor with Cousins- and if he is truly just a back-up for when Cousins sits- that's too much money to spend on it.

I think we should go for O'Quinn.
PF/C, solid defender, nice rim-protector- with a good midrange jumper, and he has been trying to stretch it all the way to the 3 point line (not there yet).

 

[Section 101]

That statistic is more misleading than a little bit; do we have cause to believe that he took so few post shots for any reason other than because he wasn't asked to?

That's 18 makes not attempts.

 

[The_Jamal]

Why the hell would we offer Brewer more than 8M/Y?

Good lord. Backup SF isn't a big enough of a weakness to dole out that kinda money for that dude. Go after Koufas or another 3rd big.


That's good news but I wonder what that means with Rondo/DC. We don't need Rondo, Beverley and DC.

That's amazing news. Rondo can go jump in a lake. Beverly is better than him and DC is far superior as a starter to Rondo.

 

[KingMilz]

Collison is better than Beverly. I don't want Collison and his agent to be PO at the FO too..

I''d say DC is more skilled but I don''t know if he impacts the game more than Pat

 

[HndsmCelt]

Be nice, but I would assume mean that Rondo said no?

And I called Brewer earlier -- he worked well with Karl, and we are doubtless still looking for a perimeter defender with Belli signed.

But how will Cuz feel about playing with Beverly

 

[Draft2007]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 3m3 minutes ago Land O' Lakes, FL
Talks between the Sacramento Kings and Patrick Beverley are progressing, according to sources. They may be nearing a deal.

Two things need to go right though for us to get him though. First he has to agree then we have to hope Houston doesn't match. Does anyone know if they have his bird rights? He was signed after being out of the league for a few years so I'm not sure if he was on a standard rookie deal or not.

 

[sactownfan]

Be nice, but I would assume mean that Rondo said no?

And I called Brewer earlier -- he worked well with Karl, and we are doubtless still looking for a perimeter defender with Belli signed.

wow this would be great news... Neither Rondo or Beverley are perfect at this point but defense and shooting is a must and Beverley would be a WAAAY better option and probably be signed cheaper with a 2-3 year deal.

 

[The_Jamal]

But how will Cuz feel about playing with Beverly

He'd love it.

Big man wants to win. Pat Bev gets after it on the defensive end more than just about anyone in the NBA. He frustrates PG's, gets under their skin and is always playing with fire.

 

[Section 101]

But how will Cuz feel about playing with Beverly

I think he would love it. A PG playing defense.

 

[Amit149]

Two things need to go right though for us to get him though. First he has to agree then we have to hope Houston doesn't match. Does anyone know if they have his bird rights? He was signed after being out of the league for a few years so I'm not sure if he was on a standard rookie deal or not.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterocke...-beverley-making-him-a-restricted-free-agent/

Yes full Bird rights, he is an RFA so they can match us...

I'd love to have him, especially after we got Belinelli...

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

That's 18 makes not attempts.

That doesn't impact my question at all. If anything, it helps; 18 out of how many attempts?

 

[swisshh]

Could just be leverage for Beverly. He'd be the backup btw. Not an issue for Darren. (I would think, but who knows with this team.)

Also signing him probably ends the Rondo pursuit.

 

[KingMilz]

I think he would love it. A PG playing defense.

I think he/she was being sarcastic cause that's all people say when you suggest we sign a player that's edgey, I suggested Pat in a game thread during the year and that was the exact response I got.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

But how will Cuz feel about playing with Beverly

He'll get over it after he sees Beverly up in Curry's grill

 

[steelevt]

I'm starting to think I know what kings are doing. Outside media sees it as us overpaying and getting rejected. But what we are doing is driving up the salaries on the other NBA teams handcuffing them in the future. Like on eBay when u keep bidding it higher with no intention to buy just to make the other guy pay more. Well played Vlade

 

[SacTownKid]

Looks like Sac is trolling Houston, re-signing Beverley and Brewer all but takes them out of the Aldridge race. If they were ever in it of course.

I'm pretty sure Houston matches on Beverley. I doubt they had enough to run the gauntlet with him but without him they looked lost. Unless they are interested in getting Lin back or something. I think Houston needs more scoring at PG than what Beverley gives them, if they come back with the same team next year against a healthy OKC, Warriors, and potentially Aldridge on the Spurs they are solidly in the middle of the pack and no more. A Howard/Harden duo isn't enough to get it done talent wise.

 

[Draft2007]

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterocke...-beverley-making-him-a-restricted-free-agent/

He is an RFA so they can match us...

I'd love to have him, especially after we got Belinelli...

I think he's a great fit with Belinelli but I'd take Rondo also. I'm just not sure I can handle waiting another 9 days to know whether or not we actually got Beverley.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Collison and Beverly is an interesting duo. We'd have two guys at the "head of the snake" who can play very solid defense with different styles and intangibles

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

What's everyone's opinion on if Beverley signs, would he be backing up Collison?

He was a starter with the Rockets so it might be hard for him to swallow unless he is massively overpaid. But why would we do that for a bench guy? They are both too small to start side by side.

 

[SacTownKid]

I'm starting to think I know what kings are doing. Outside media sees it as us overpaying and getting rejected. But what we are doing is driving up the salaries on the other NBA teams handcuffing them in the future. Like on eBay when u keep bidding it higher with no intention to buy just to make the other guy pay more. Well played Vlade

I wouldn't doubt that game is being played with Houston to nab Beverley from them, but in reality, players are simply saying "Thanks, but no thanks". Vivek should be learning from this that if you create an animal house atmosphere, even if it's only on the surface, it will cost you in the end.

 

[jcwkings]

Beverley, Bass, Omri would be ideal.

Collison/Bev
Ben/Belli
Gay/Casspi
Bass/Moreland
DMC/WCS

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

What's everyone's opinion on if Beverley signs, would he be backing up Collison?

He was a starter with the Rockets so it might be hard for him to swallow unless he is massively overpaid. But why would we do that for a bench guy? They are both too small to start side by side.

I'd like Beverly backing up Collison,.....but it may actually mean another trade on the horizon.

I still think a trade with Denver will happen

 

[SacTownKid]

What's everyone's opinion on if Beverley signs, would he be backing up Collison?

He was a starter with the Rockets so it might be hard for him to swallow unless he is massively overpaid. But why would we do that for a bench guy? They are both too small to start side by side.

It would depend I guess. I saw a tweet earlier on one of those basketball twitter sites, I think Hoopshype, saying something about Darren going to Houston. I really hope that's not true.